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On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 6:25:16 AM UTC-5, Bill Evans wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> posted the final
> version of "The Ride (Combat Zone).
>
> Will, I'm not sufficiently educated or experienced in giving
> a useful critique of this poem; I'll bet Mike would do a
> good job of that.
>

I'm afraid I'm a bit lost on this one as well.

Don't be ridiculous.
I don't use ridicule
as a mechanism
for manipulation.
There's a difference
between at and with.
I don't laugh at people, but I
Will laugh with you in mind.

Pastor Corey will do fine, Will,
unless you mean to belittle me,
in which case, keep doing what
you're doing. You're doing great!

I meant what I said. You decide for yourself whether to
take me seriously or not. As always, that's your choice.

"Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> wrote
(as edited for 80-column television):
>I can get back to this a bit later in greater length, if
>you're interested in some of the finer details, Bill.

No rush, at your convenience, but yes, I am indeed
interested.

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"Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> wrote:
> Stay tuned, I predict you'll be seeing the "real" Corey soon.
>
> He's due for a mood swing meltdown an day now... anyone who has been a
> regular here for a certain length of time will know exactly what I refer to,
> Bill.

I'll be prepared for one of two things to take place.

I'll be unpleasantly surprised.

Or.

You'll be pleasantly surprised.

Never underestimate the power of people to change for the
better.  Don't count on it, but don't dismiss the
possiblity.

I rather like Corey.  I hope that doesn't change (to
savagely twist an Obamaism).

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"Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> wrote:
> http://rs184.pbsrc.com/albums/x51/Parnellos-Pizza/Shadowville%20All-Stars/Shadowville%20All-Stars%202013/aar67.jpg~c200

Fixed the link for those who simply want to click on it:

http://rs184.pbsrc.com/albums/x51/Parnellos-Pizza/Shadowville%20All-Stars/Shadowville%20All-Stars%202013/aar67.jpg

That's a better copy of the tiny pic we got before.

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"Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> wrote:
> Do you really object to Brianiac or are you just kidding around, as usual,
> Corey?

I think we're all Brainiacs on this bus.

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On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 12:28:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
> news:363e0b1e-90cf-4fc9-be86-5f428d392b99@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > I meant what I said.

And he said what he meant.

A minister's faithful, one hundred percent.

I am a Semper fi guy.

"Bill Evans"  wrote in message
news:news.Tue.20151229.153613.PST.1296@mariposabill.com...
> "Will Dockery" posted the final
> version of "The Ride (Combat Zone).
>
> Will, I'm not sufficiently educated or experienced in giving
> a useful critique of this poem; I'll bet Mike would do a
> good job of that.
>
> But it would help me if you could explain a couple of
> things.  Asking them will make me look like a silly fool,
> but I'm down with that.
>
> I look at "Rastas" and think, huh?  Does this refer to
> Rastafarians, those mild-mannered pot-smoking laid-back
> folks from Jamaica?  Can that be right?  What am I missing?
>
> And what is meant by "black" in "black pigs of poetry"?
>
> --
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Down here in the "Dirty South", there's become a connection between
gangsters, drug dealers in inner-cit America and connections to Jamaica.

The Clash and The Rolling Stones, to name two iconic groups of
people/artists discovered and discussed (through their songs) how things
were not always hunky dory down in Trenchtown.

I can get back to this a bit later in greater length, if you're interested
in some of the finer details, Bill.

I hope so, since this is an aspect of the poem that I don't think has ever
been questioned.

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:7021330f-b612-428e-9d8b-d6b8c827aca7@googlegroups.com...
>
> Brainiac is what my Union sister, Sandy,
> called me on Facebook

Sure beats being called Lex Luther or Bizarro, I reckon.

:D

Sure, you can call me Reverend, Will.
You can call me anything you like. Heck,
you can call me Little Lord Fauntleroy for
all I care. What you call me reflects on you,
and your ability to demonstrate honor, humor,
contempt, respect, etc. to the people with whom
you correspond. I told you my preference, but
I won't be offended by whatever you choose.

"Bill Evans"  wrote in message
news:news.Wed.20151230.033439.PST.1322@mariposabill.com...
>
> To laugh at someone publicly

<snipped for focus>

There's a bit of history involved... I was responding in kind.

Stay tuned, I predict you'll be seeing the "real" Corey soon.

He's due for a mood swing meltdown an day now... anyone who has been a
regular here for a certain length of time will know exactly what I refer to,
Bill.

It has been known to be a bumpy ride.

:D

As you've noted, and in all humility,
I do have a well documented if not
wholly remarkable ability, facility, and
utility for communicating emotional
tone through text. I am indeed an
iPad impresario, hoping to make
a good impression on people.

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:9161d208-fe1a-485f-a451-165bd7fffef9@googlegroups.com...
>
> I don't use ridicule
> as a mechanism
> for manipulation.

That's what makes you Reverend Brainiac 747, after all.

http://rs184.pbsrc.com/albums/x51/Parnellos-Pizza/Shadowville%20All-Stars/Shadowville%20All-Stars%202013/aar67.jpg~c200

:D

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
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>
> Pastor Corey will do fine, Will

Do you really object to Brianiac or are you just kidding around, as usual,
Corey?

J. Corey Connor wrote in message
news:363e0b1e-90cf-4fc9-be86-5f428d392b99@evansusenet.com...
>
> ~ Get well soon.

Feeling good down this way, but thanks for our concern... can I call you
Reverend?

:D

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:363e0b1e-90cf-4fc9-be86-5f428d392b99@googlegroups.com...
>
> I meant what I said.

I'm sure you did, Corey.

But your mood swings, temper tantrums and contradictory statements on Usenet
are sort of infamous and legendary.

That's the reason you began deleting all your posts, so you wouldn't have to
take responsibility for your often bizarre statements here, remember?

:D

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ Brainiac is what my Union sister, Sandy,
~ called me on Facebook, because she thinks
~ I'm smart, and respects my opinion. We've
~ known each other for thirty years, and I
~ performed her daughter's wedding service
~ at precisely 4:20pm on the Fourth of July,
~ Independence Day, for symbolic reasons.
~ The fact that I'm a genius is independently
~ varifiable, and has long been a source of
~ contention and angst between myself and
~ those who think being real smart is all good.
~ My IQ measures somewhere north of 150,
~ and believe you me, it can be a real headache.

If I could sing like Jim Nabors, I'd be set.

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:dcccb5f4-7336-46ee-ac31-f1b096b672da@googlegroups.com...

As you've noted, and in all humility,
I do have a well documented if not
wholly remarkable ability, facility, and
utility for communicating emotional
tone through text. I am indeed an
iPad impresario, hoping to make
a good impression on people.

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:a08cfff6-5a33-402b-8714-6919aa908fef@googlegroups.com...
>
> I am a Semper fi guy.

http://rs184.pbsrc.com/albums/x51/Parnellos-Pizza/Shadowville%20All-Stars/Shadowville%20All-Stars%202013/aar67.jpg~c200

The Gomer Pyle USMC influence is obvious,

:D

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ I meant what I said. You decide for yourself whether to
~ take me seriously or not. As always, that's your choice.

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ Pastor Corey will do fine, Will,
~ unless you mean to belittle me,
~ in which case, keep doing what
~ you're doing. You're doing great!

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ Don't be ridiculous.
~ I don't use ridicule
~ as a mechanism
~ for manipulation.
~ There's a difference
~ between at and with.
~ I don't laugh at people, but I
~ Will laugh with you in mind.

Now you sound like my son.

On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 10:28:39 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Michael Pendragon"  wrote in message
> news:3adc596e-3ea9-4eca-89b9-bc66b24ce369@googlegroups.com...
> > On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 12:28:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > "Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
> > news:363e0b1e-90cf-4fc9-be86-5f428d392b99@googlegroups.com...
> > >
> > > I meant what I said.
> >
> > And he said what he meant.
> >
> > A minister's faithful, one hundred percent.
>
> Did I write that or did Corey?

Corey.  AFAIK you aren't a minister.

On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 10:46:30 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Michael Pendragon"  wrote in message
> news:87dd9457-380b-4fa3-8b8d-8ae3e0021ae2@googlegroups.com...
> > On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 6:25:16 AM UTC-5, Bill Evans wrote:
> > "Will Dockery" posted the final
> > version of "The Ride (Combat Zone).
> >
> >> Will, I'm not sufficiently educated or experienced in giving
> >> a useful critique of this poem; I'll bet Mike would do a
> >> good job of that.
> >
> > I'm afraid I'm a bit lost on this one as well.
>
> Lost?
>
> I felt it was a pretty much straightforward poem... in what way did it lose
> you, if you can give me any leads on this...

Black pigs of poetry and chemical jungles ... reminds me of a Manson rant.

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ Sure, you can call me Reverend, Will.
~ You can call me anything you like. Heck,
~ you can call me Little Lord Fauntleroy for
~ all I care. What you call me reflects on you,
~ and your ability to demonstrate honor, humor,
~ contempt, respect, etc. to the people with whom
~ you correspond. I told you my preference, but
~ I won't be offended by whatever you choose.

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ I am a Semper fi guy.

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ As you've noted, and in all humility,
~ I do have a well documented if not
~ wholly remarkable ability, facility, and
~ utility for communicating emotional
~ tone through text. I am indeed an
~ iPad impresario, hoping to make
~ a good impression on people.

I am. He was talking to you. You aren't a minister.

On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 11:53:35 PM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I am. He was talking to you. You aren't a minister.

No, I never had The Calling.

:D

Yeah, you'd know if you heard it, and
it's pretty much impossible to ignore.

"Bill Evans"  wrote in message
news:news.Thu.20151231.100949.PST.1415@mariposabill.com...
> "Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> wrote
(as edited for 80-column television):
>
>>I can get back to this a bit later in greater length, if
>>you're interested in some of the finer details, Bill.
>
> No rush, at your convenience, but yes, I am indeed interested.

There's some sub plots involved there as well, but sure will. I'm looking up
some things for Corey on local churches that would most likely be better
attuned to his swinging preacher style and then I'll punch in and see what
I've written on this Rastaman subject in the past... I'm sure I have at some
point.

So... to the Archives, old chum.

:D

"Bill Evans"  wrote in message
news:news.Thu.20151231.101659.PST.1419@mariposabill.com...
> "Will Dockery" wrote:
>
>> Do you really object to Brianiac or are you just kidding around, as
>> usual,
>> Corey?
>
> I think we're all Brainiacs on this bus.

in the actual D.C. Comics, the Brainiacs were numbered.

Brainiac 5 was particularly famous in the 30th Century, still had the
chartreuse skin but also wore a snazzy purple jump suit and had a big blonde
hair-do, kind of like Donald Trump.

:D

"Michael Pendragon"  wrote in message
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> On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 12:28:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
> news:363e0b1e-90cf-4fc9-be86-5f428d392b99@googlegroups.com...
> >
> > I meant what I said.
>
> And he said what he meant.
>
> A minister's faithful, one hundred percent.

Did I write that or did Corey?

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:abb52c5d-3b7c-4c03-8872-3f91f153aa3f@googlegroups.com...
>
> If I could sing like Jim Nabors, I'd be set.

Really, with your Alpha-Brainiac personality, you're more the Frank Sutton,
Drill Sergeant kind of Marine.

:D

"Michael Pendragon"  wrote in message
news:87dd9457-380b-4fa3-8b8d-8ae3e0021ae2@googlegroups.com...
> On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 6:25:16 AM UTC-5, Bill Evans wrote:
> "Will Dockery" posted the final
> version of "The Ride (Combat Zone).
>
>> Will, I'm not sufficiently educated or experienced in giving
>> a useful critique of this poem; I'll bet Mike would do a
>> good job of that.
>
> I'm afraid I'm a bit lost on this one as well.

Lost?

I felt it was a pretty much straightforward poem... in what way did it lose
you, if you can give me any leads on this...

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:b0c0e0cc-c094-477a-aeb7-097da9008d3e@googlegroups.com...
>
> Now you sound like my son.

In what way?

Michael Pendragon wrote:
> On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 10:28:39 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery wrote:
> > "Michael Pendragon"  wrote in message
> > news:3adc596e-3ea9-4eca-89b9-bc66b24ce369@googlegroups.com...
> > > On Thursday, December 31, 2015 at 12:28:04 PM UTC-5, Will Dockery
> > > wrote:
> > > "Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
> > > news:363e0b1e-90cf-4fc9-be86-5f428d392b99@googlegroups.com...
> > > >
> > > > I meant what I said.
> > >
> > > And he said what he meant.
> > >
> > > A minister's faithful, one hundred percent.
> >
> > Did I write that or did Corey?
>
> Corey.  AFAIK you aren't a minister.

I thought he was ordained?

"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:9161d208-fe1a-485f-a451-165bd7fffef9@googlegroups.com...
>
> Yeah, you'd know if you heard it, and
> it's pretty much impossible to ignore.

It happened to my Uncle Clarence, who wound up spending his entire life as a
Methodist Minister.

It scared me when my grandmother hinted the same thing might happen to me.

:D

In rec.arts.poems on Thu, 31 Dec 2015 02:28:21 -0800 (PST), Bill Evans
wrote:

> Will, I'm not sufficiently educated or experienced to refrain from
> persistent spamming and copyright abuse.

I fixed your typos, Ern.

<spewnip>



--
PJR :-)

τὸν οἰόμενον νόον ἔχειν ὁ νουθετέων ματαιοπονεῖ.
	- Democritus

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"Michael Pendragon"  wrote in message
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>
> Black pigs of poetry and chemical jungles ... reminds me of a Manson rant.

In a roundabout way, maybe... I think it was inspired by Led Zeppelin.

:D

"Will Dockery" <will_dockery@outlook.com> wrote:
> It happened to my Uncle Clarence, who wound up spending his entire life as a
> Methodist Minister.
>
> It scared me when my grandmother hinted the same thing might happen to me.

Grandmothers can be scary.  It seems that every move they
make is magnified a thousandfold in their grandchildren.

My grandmother (the one I knew) was the most benign,
laid-back person I ever met.  However (or maybe
"therefore"), every word and movement of hers that I
remember is writ large on my forehead.

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~ Now you sound like my son.

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ Yeah, you'd know if you heard it, and
~ it's pretty much impossible to ignore.

The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ I am. He was talking to you. You aren't a minister.