Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:14

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Skirt of Printed Sunflowers

Girl of these woods and chemicals
we labor for the black pigs of my poetry
for the bone gods of the sea.
For the secret rose you keep for me
under the skirts of printed sunflowers.

There is a hollering and someone has a
dog that barks
your eyes have that recently crying look
and your hair seems as soft
and your smell as sweet
as before.
As that last time you came to my door
in a skirt of printed pastel sunflowers.

But it has been seen that you look
straight through
I fear that you are already gone.
That night you tried to die in my arms
is something that I will not forget
or make sense of
you and your skirt of bright printed sunflowers.

Methinks that you no longer see nothing
and God knows what kind
of love is this
you told me that you never stopped loving me.
But you could never return to me
in your skirt of printed sunflowers.

-Will Dockery

C & C welcome & appreciated.

Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Hieronymous707
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 05:19

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Have you ever wondered why you don't get more of the C & C
that you ostensibly welcome and appreciate? Have you ever
considered the possibility that it has something to do with how
you define the words 'welcome' and 'appreciate'? Just curious.

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: w...@acm.org (Bi
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 05:38

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"Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Skirt of Printed Sunflowers

> under the skirts of printed sunflowers.
> in a skirt of printed pastel sunflowers.
> you and your skirt of bright printed sunflowers.
> in your skirt of printed sunflowers.

What's distracting to this unpracticed poetry reader is that
in these four lines you have three different descriptions of
the skirt of printed sunflowers.  So I slow down and ask
myself: why?  It would seem to sing more if you removed
"pastel" and "bright".  But you must have a reason for
putting those words in there.  I'm curious.  What is that
reason?

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Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Hieronymous707
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:29

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Do I ever wonder why 'man'
readers can't even see 'our'
posts? Y do you ask?

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Will Dockery
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:43

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On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:29:21 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> Do I ever wonder why 'man'
> readers can't even see 'our'
> posts? Y do you ask?

Sorry, one of my keys was jammed.

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Hieronymous707
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 07:56

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That's great to hear, Will! Be courageous!
Define welcome and appreciate in your own
words. I'd really like to read that. Thanks!

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Will Dockery
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:03

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On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:56:59 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> Define welcome and appreciate

Do your own homework.

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Hieronymous707
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:15

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I do, and have, Will. I did my homework, passed all my classes,
and made it all the way through school. I am now the proud owner
of a Kappa key that I sometimes use as a tie pin. You said it takes
courage to define welcome and appreciate. I'm simply asking you
to demonstrate your courage in text by doing what you say you can.

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Michael Pendrago
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:30

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On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:15:33 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
> I do, and have, Will. I did my homework, passed all my classes,
> and made it all the way through school. I am now the proud owner
> of a Kappa key that I sometimes use as a tie pin. You said it takes
> courage to define welcome and appreciate. I'm simply asking you
> to demonstrate your courage in text by doing what you say you can.

Perhaps if you each defined these words, you'd reach a higher level of mutual understanding.

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Hieronymous707
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:36

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Great idea. I'm all for mutual understanding, Michael,
except that I'm not sure Will knows what mutual means.

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Hieronymous707
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 08:37

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Trolling my wife now, Will?

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:26

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"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:b0c0e0cc-c094-477a-aeb7-097da9008d3e@googlegroups.com...
>
> Have you ever wondered why you don't get more of the C & C

No.

Do you ever wonder why man readers can't even see our posts?

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:50

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On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 8:43:16 AM UTC-5, Bill Evans wrote:
> "Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote:
> > Skirt of Printed Sunflowers
>
>
> > under the skirts of printed sunflowers.
> > in a skirt of printed pastel sunflowers.
> > you and your skirt of bright printed sunflowers.
> > in your skirt of printed sunflowers.
>
> What's distracting to this unpracticed poetry reader is that
> in these four lines you have three different descriptions of
> the skirt of printed sunflowers.  So I slow down and ask
> myself: why?  It would seem to sing more if you removed
> "pastel" and "bright".  But you must have a reason for
> putting those words in there.  I'm curious.  What is that
> reason?

Hello Bill, and thanks for reading... in later revisions those bits were
eventually dropped, as the poem changed in other significant ways... I'll
get back with you about this shortly.

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 10:52

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"Clerk Kent"; "mild-mannered reporter"  wrote in message
news:b0c0e0cc-c094-477a-aeb7-097da9008d3e@evansusenet.com...
>
> ~ it has something to do with how
> ~ you define the words 'welcome' and 'appreciate'

It takes courage to define those words like I do.

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:34

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On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:15:33 AM UTC-5, Hieronymous707 wrote:
>
> You said it takes
> courage to define welcome and appreciate.

I know.

I was making fun of Angel and her silly statement about how it "takes
courage" to be your friend.

Sorry, but Angel is really funny when she tries to post here.

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 11:40

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On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:31:00 AM UTC-5, Michael Pendragon wrote:
>
> Perhaps if you each defined these words, you'd reach a higher level of
> mutual understanding.

Corey seems to make up his meanings as he goes along.

:D

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 12:33

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"Hieronymous707"  wrote in message
news:e4345dfe-de85-4856-95c9-9458be121d03@googlegroups.com...
>
> Define welcome and appreciate

I'll give you an example of someone who is not welcome or appreciated pretty
much anywhere. Guys who make posts about his fantasies, in which he
threatens another poster with violence.

Here's one of those kinds of guys who are definitely not welcome or
appreciated just about anwhere:

On Sunday, February 13, 2011 7:33:10 PM UTC Hieronymous Corey
<hiero...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.arts.poetry.comments/msg/32adb0f82192e324?hl=en
>
> Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.usenet.kooks, alt.fan.karl-
> malden.nose
> From: Barbara's Cat <c...@XSPAMscientist.com>
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:04:31 -0500
> Local: Tues, Nov 23 2010 7:04 pm
> Subject: Re: My owner is Kevin A. Cannon
>
> > J. Corey Connor said:
> >
> > > For your information, I'm real dude. I'm a real dude, and
> > > if you ever came close to the real life equivolent of
> > > omitting the rest of my "condescending remarks" for my own
> > > good, I promise you it would be the very last thing you
> > > would ever do in this life. That's not a threat, that just
> > > a simple fact. And I do pass through your area on occasion,
> > > and I know who you are, and I'm likely to look you up just
> > > for shits and giggles, so you should have some understanding
> > > of the type of person I am before I get there.
> >
> > That reads like a threat to do physical harm.
> > You are not threating physical harm, are you?
> >
> > --
> > Cm~
> >
> > ***
> >
> > J. Corey Connor said:
> >
> > > Don't piss me off, or I'll kill you.
> >
> > LEAs will find that funny too, eh?
> >
> > --
> > Cm~
> >
> > "You can't push my buttons enough to make me mad, but
> >  you can still get yourself really hurt in the process
> >  if you're not very careful."
> >                       - Corey, self-proclaimed bad-ass
> >
> > ***
> >
> > Newsgroups: alt.arts.poetry.comments, alt.usenet.kooks, alt.fan.karl-
> > malden.nose
> > From: Meat Plow <mh...@yahoo.com>
> > Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 13:29:22 +0000 (UTC)
> > Local: Wed, Nov 24 2010 8:29 am
> > Subject: Re: My owner is Kevin A. Cannon
> >
> > On Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:04:31 -0500, Barbara's Cat wrote:
> > > J. Corey Connor said:
>
> > >> For your information, I'm real dude. I'm a real dude, and if you ever
> > >> came close to the real life equivolent

:D

> of omitting the rest of my
> > >> "condescending remarks" for my own good, I promise you it would be
> > >> the
> > >> very last thing you would ever do in this life. That's not a threat,
> > >> that just a simple fact. And I do pass through your area on occasion,
> > >> and I know who you are, and I'm likely to look you up just for shits
> > >> and giggles, so you should have some understanding of the type of
> > >> person I am before I get there.
>
> > > That reads like a threat to do physical harm. You are not threating
> > > physical harm, are you?

How's that?

Gus who make violent fantasy threats such as these are not... wait for it...
welcome or appreciated.

:D

The Ride (Combat Zone) / Will Dockery

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Author: "Will Dockery"
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 13:25

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"Bill Evans"  wrote in message
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> "Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote:
>
>> Skirt of Printed Sunflowers
>
>> under the skirts of printed sunflowers.
> in a skirt of printed pastel sunflowers.
> you and your skirt of bright printed sunflowers.
>> in your skirt of printed sunflowers.
>
> What's distracting to this unpracticed poetry reader is that
> in these four lines you have three different descriptions of
> the skirt of printed sunflowers.  So I slow down and ask
> myself: why?  It would seem to sing more if you removed
> "pastel" and "bright".  But you must have a reason for
> putting those words in there.  I'm curious.  What is that
> reason?

Hello Bill, I've got to run for a while today, but here's a later version of
this poem done in a stage production with music, that shows how the words
you mentioned are finally discarded:

The Ride (Combat Zone) / Will Dockery
https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/video/13999554


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Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: Clerk Kent, mild
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 13:48

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The following message has been rescued for posterior:

~ Have you ever wondered why you don't get more of the C & C
~ that you ostensibly welcome and appreciate? Have you ever
~ considered the possibility that it has something to do with how
~ you define the words 'welcome' and 'appreciate'? Just curious.

Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: wje@acm.org (Bil
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:36

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Will Dockery <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sorry, one of my keys was jammed.

One of my keys is peanut buttered, and ordinarily I don't
even like peanut butter.

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Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: wje@acm.org (Bil
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:38

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Michael Pendragon <michaelmaleficapendragon@gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps if you each defined these words, you'd reach a
> higher level of mutual understanding.

That would be too reasonable.  Perhaps if we just leave them
alone, they will doublehandedly raise the overall heat of
Usenet so that we can use the temperature gradient to
generate electricity.

Just a thought.

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Re: Skirt of Printed Sunflowers / Will Dockery

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Author: w...@acm.org (Bi
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:40

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"Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote
(as edited for 80-column television):
> Gus who make violent fantasy threats such as these are
> not... wait for it... welcome or appreciated.

I think the world would be better off if everyone used his
Why key a little more often.

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Re: The Ride (Combat Zone) / Will Dockery

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Author: w...@acm.org (Bi
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:42

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"Will Dockery" <will_d...@outlook.com> wrote:
> Hello Bill, I've got to run for a while today, but here's a later version of
> this poem done in a stage production with music, that shows how the words
> you mentioned are finally discarded:
>
> The Ride (Combat Zone) / Will Dockery
> https://www.reverbnation.com/artist/video/13999554

I'll be better able to contemplate the poem when I see the
words written down, but no hurry.  I ain't going nowhere.

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