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On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> July, by Robert F. Skillings
>
> A very pleasant mouth is this
> To be in a country town.
> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> [...]
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html

Purty Mouth
https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > July, by Robert F. Skillings
> >
> > A very pleasant mouth is this
> > To be in a country town.
> > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > [...]
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> Purty Mouth
> https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E

The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s.  Perhaps he means a smile?  We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > 
> > > A very pleasant mouth is this 
> > > To be in a country town. 
> > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > [...] 
> > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > Purty Mouth 
> > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E
> The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere.


 I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about 
what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind.
According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > 
> > > > A very pleasant mouth is this 
> > > > To be in a country town. 
> > > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > [...] 
> > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > Purty Mouth 
> > > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E 
> > The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere.
> I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about 
> what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind. 
> According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot.

Do you think it possible that Skillings wrote the word month 
rather than mouth, but his editor/publisher mistook the n for a u?

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:39:05 PM UTC, HC wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, HC wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > > July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A very pleasant mouth is this 
> > > > > To be in a country town. 
> > > > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > > [...] 
> > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > Purty Mouth 
> > > > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E 
> > > The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere. 
> > I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about 
> > what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind. 
> > According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot.
> Do you think it possible that Skillings wrote the word month 
> rather than mouth, but his editor/publisher mistook the n for a u?
We thought that maybe George Dance had put the wrong word in there, as the poem really does call for "month" rather than mouth, but other reproductions of the poem had "mouth."  The poem isn't in the "Memoir of Robert F. Skillings, with Genealogy and Poems" so hard to tell.  We don't see where it was first published.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:15:18 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > July, by Robert F. Skillings
>
> > A very pleasant mouth is this
> > To be in a country town.
> > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > [...]
> > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> "Pleasant mouth"?
>
> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?

Denial is just a defense mechanism.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:39:05 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, HC wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > > > July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > A very pleasant mouth is this 
> > > > > > To be in a country town. 
> > > > > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > > > [...] 
> > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > > Purty Mouth 
> > > > > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E 
> > > > The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere. 
> > > I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about 
> > > what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind. 
> > > According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot. 
> > Do you think it possible that Skillings wrote the word month 
> > rather than mouth, but his editor/publisher mistook the n for a u?
> We thought that maybe George Dance had put the wrong word in there, as the poem really does call for "month" rather than mouth, but other reproductions of the poem had "mouth." The poem isn't in the "Memoir of Robert F. Skillings, with Genealogy and Poems" so hard to tell. We don't see where it was first published.

I got the same results.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:22:13 PM UTC, HC wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:39:05 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, HC wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > > > > July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > A very pleasant mouth is this 
> > > > > > > To be in a country town. 
> > > > > > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > > > > [...] 
> > > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > > > Purty Mouth 
> > > > > > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E 
> > > > > The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere. 
> > > > I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about 
> > > > what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind. 
> > > > According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot. 
> > > Do you think it possible that Skillings wrote the word month 
> > > rather than mouth, but his editor/publisher mistook the n for a u? 
> > We thought that maybe George Dance had put the wrong word in there, as the poem really does call for "month" rather than mouth, but other reproductions of the poem had "mouth." The poem isn't in the "Memoir of Robert F. Skillings, with Genealogy and Poems" so hard to tell. We don't see where it was first published.
> I got the same results.
There are other July poems in the Memoir but not this one:

https://books.google.com/books?id=YItRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA31&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false

Do you suppose that Benders wrote it as a joke and put it on the Internet?

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:24:54 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:22:13 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:39:05 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, HC wrote: 
> > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > > > > > July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > A very pleasant mouth is this 
> > > > > > > > To be in a country town. 
> > > > > > > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > > > > > [...] 
> > > > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > > > > Purty Mouth 
> > > > > > > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E 
> > > > > > The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere. 
> > > > > I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about 
> > > > > what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind. 
> > > > > According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot. 
> > > > Do you think it possible that Skillings wrote the word month 
> > > > rather than mouth, but his editor/publisher mistook the n for a u? 
> > > We thought that maybe George Dance had put the wrong word in there, as the poem really does call for "month" rather than mouth, but other reproductions of the poem had "mouth." The poem isn't in the "Memoir of Robert F. Skillings, with Genealogy and Poems" so hard to tell. We don't see where it was first published. 
> > I got the same results.
> There are other July poems in the Memoir but not this one: 
> 
> https://books.google.com/books?id=YItRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA31&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&f=false 
> 
> Do you suppose that Benders wrote it as a joke and put it on the Internet?

That would be genius.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:55:19 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >>
> >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> >
> >> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> >>      To be in a country town.
> >> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> >> [...]
> >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> >
> >
> > "Pleasant mouth"?
> >
> > A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
>
> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have
> "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6
> times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else
> who put it on their site did the same.
>
> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text
> online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I
> suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says
> he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it
> was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the
> "mouth."
>
> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining,
> when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the
> mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that
> unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of
> the poem.
George Dance, why did you reply to Will Dockery's comment and not to HC's, who was the one who first pointed out month/mouth?   There were 4 comments before Dockery's and 5 afterward.  Dockery added nothing to the discussion.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 4:04:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:55:19 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > >> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > 
> > >> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > >> To be in a country town. 
> > >> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > >> [...] 
> > >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > > 
> > > A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > 
> > Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have 
> > "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6 
> > times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else 
> > who put it on their site did the same. 
> > 
> > The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text 
> > online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I 
> > suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says 
> > he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it 
> > was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the 
> > "mouth." 
> > 
> > Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining, 
> > when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the 
> > mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that 
> > unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of 
> > the poem.
> George Dance, why did you reply to Will Dockery's comment 

Why not?

🙂

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 4:04:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:55:19 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > > George J. Dance wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > >> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> > >
> > >> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> > >> To be in a country town.
> > >> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > >> [...]
> > >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> > >
> > >
> > > "Pleasant mouth"?
> > >
> > > A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> > Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> > combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> > and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> >
> > Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> > seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> > they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have
> > "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6
> > times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else
> > who put it on their site did the same.
> >
> > The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text
> > online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I
> > suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says
> > he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it
> > was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the
> > "mouth."
> >
> > Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining,
> > when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the
> > mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that
> > unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of
> > the poem.
> George Dance, why did you reply to Will Dockery's comment and not to HC's, who was the one who first pointed out month/mouth? There were 4 comments before Dockery's and 5 afterward. Dockery added nothing to the discussion.

Denial is a defense mechanism.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:12:44 PM UTC, HC wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 4:04:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:55:19 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > >> 
> > > >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > >> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > 
> > > >> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > > >> To be in a country town. 
> > > >> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > >> [...] 
> > > >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > > > 
> > > > A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > > Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > > combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > > and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > > 
> > > Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > > seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > > they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have 
> > > "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6 
> > > times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else 
> > > who put it on their site did the same. 
> > > 
> > > The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text 
> > > online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I 
> > > suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says 
> > > he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it 
> > > was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the 
> > > "mouth." 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining, 
> > > when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the 
> > > mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that 
> > > unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of 
> > > the poem. 
> > George Dance, why did you reply to Will Dockery's comment and not to HC's, who was the one who first pointed out month/mouth? There were 4 comments before Dockery's and 5 afterward. Dockery added nothing to the discussion.
> Denial is a defense mechanism.
Ignorance is no excuse for trolling, and we think that both George Dance and Will Dockery trolled the poem instead of taking the matter seriously.   If we were George Dance, we would not change the poem just because we "think" it contains the wrong word.  If anything, we would withdraw the poem from AAPC and Penny's site until we could find out what the correct word should be or the history of the possible error.  The poem must have come from somewhere.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>
> > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > > July, by Robert F. Skillings
> > >
> > > A very pleasant mouth is this
> > > To be in a country town.
> > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > > [...]
> > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> > Purty Mouth
> > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E
> The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere.

That's why I asked if the word might be similar to some of the words Edmund Spenser used.

HTH and HAND.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 4:26:41 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:12:44 PM UTC, HC wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 4:04:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:55:19 PM UTC, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > >> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > > 
> > > > >> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > > > >> To be in a country town. 
> > > > >> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > >> [...] 
> > > > >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > > > Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > > > combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > > > and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > > > 
> > > > Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > > > seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > > > they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have 
> > > > "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6 
> > > > times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else 
> > > > who put it on their site did the same. 
> > > > 
> > > > The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text 
> > > > online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I 
> > > > suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says 
> > > > he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it 
> > > > was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the 
> > > > "mouth." 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining, 
> > > > when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the 
> > > > mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that 
> > > > unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of 
> > > > the poem. 
> > > George Dance, why did you reply to Will Dockery's comment and not to HC's, who was the one who first pointed out month/mouth? There were 4 comments before Dockery's and 5 afterward. Dockery added nothing to the discussion. 
> > Denial is a defense mechanism.
> Ignorance is no excuse for trolling, and we think that both George Dance and Will Dockery trolled the poem instead of taking the matter seriously. If we were George Dance, we would not change the poem just because we "think" it contains the wrong word. If anything, we would withdraw the poem from AAPC and Penny's site until we could find out what the correct word should be or the history of the possible error. The poem must have come from somewhere.

I don’t think anybody really takes the matter seriously. I certainly don’t,
but I have enjoyed discussing the matter somewhat less than seriously 
with you. It’s been both fun and informative. Thanks for your time.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 3:55:19 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > George J. Dance wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> >> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> >
> >> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> >>      To be in a country town. 
> >> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> >> [...] 
> >> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > 
> > 
> > "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > 
> > A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> 
> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have 
> "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6 
> times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else 
> who put it on their site did the same. 
> 
> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text 
> online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I 
> suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says 
> he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it 
> was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the 
> "mouth." 
> 
> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining, 
> when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the 
> mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that 
> unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of 
> the poem.

Excellent, I see you now have the corrected version up, so far, probably the only corrected version on the internet.

🙂

On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
>
>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
>>      To be in a country town.
>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
>> [...]
>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
>
>
> "Pleasant mouth"?
>
> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?

Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.

Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have
"mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6
times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else
who put it on their site did the same.

The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text
online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I
suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says
he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it
was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the
"mouth."

Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining,
when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the
mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that
unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of
the poem.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > 
> >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> >>> George J. Dance wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> >>> 
> >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> >>>>      To be in a country town. 
> >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> >>>> [...] 
> >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> "Pleasant mouth"? 
> >>> 
> >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > 
> >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > 
> >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them 
> >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 
> >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone 
> >> else who put it on their site did the same. 
> > 
> >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the 
> >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each 
> >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's 
> >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find 
> >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the 
> >> appearance of the "mouth." 
> > 
> >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver 
> >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run 
> >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, 
> >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct 
> >> version of the poem. 
> > 
> > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further 
> > information surfaces.
> By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book, 
> on this page (bottom left-hand corner). 
> 
> https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up 
> 
> It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown 
> up online, and it definitely says 'month'. 
> 
> That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR 
> scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely 
> says 'mouth'. 
> 
> https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt 
> 
> (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F 
> for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)

Excellent, mystery solved.

🙂

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> July, by Robert F. Skillings

> A very pleasant mouth is this
>      To be in a country town.
> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> [...]
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html


"Pleasant mouth"?

A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?

On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
>>>
>>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
>>>>      To be in a country town.
>>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
>>>> [...]
>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
>>>
>>>
>>> "Pleasant mouth"?
>>>
>>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
>
>> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
>> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
>> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
>
>> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
>> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
>> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
>> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
>> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
>> else who put it on their site did the same.
>
>> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
>> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
>> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
>> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
>> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
>> appearance of the "mouth."
>
>> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
>> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
>> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
>> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
>> version of the poem.
>
> Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> information surfaces.

By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
on this page (bottom left-hand corner).

https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up

It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
up online, and it definitely says 'month'.

That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
says 'mouth'.

https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt

(You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
for  "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> >>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> >>>
> >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> >>>>      To be in a country town.
> >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> >>>> [...]
> >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Pleasant mouth"?
> >>>
> >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> >
> >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> >
> >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
> >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
> >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
> >> else who put it on their site did the same.
> >
> >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
> >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
> >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
> >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
> >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
> >> appearance of the "mouth."
> >
> >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
> >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
> >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
> >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
> >> version of the poem.
> >
> > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> > information surfaces.
> By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
> on this page (bottom left-hand corner).
>
> https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up
>
> It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
> up online, and it definitely says 'month'.
>
> That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
> scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
> says 'mouth'.
>
> https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt
>
> (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
> for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)

NancyGene beat you to it, George.

You should try forming an alliance with her.  She's a great person to have on your side.

NancyGene wrote:

> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:22:13 PM UTC, HC wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 2:18:27 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:39:05 PM UTC, HC wrote:
>> > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:34:49 PM UTC-4, HC wrote:
>> > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 1:25:50 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>> > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:13:02 PM UTC, HC wrote:
>> > > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 12:54:45 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
>> > > > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>> > > > > > > July, by Robert F. Skillings
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > A very pleasant mouth is this
>> > > > > > > To be in a country town.
>> > > > > > > The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
>> > > > > > > [...]
>> > > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
>> > > > > > Purty Mouth
>> > > > > > https://youtu.be/nLEL-Gewt6E
>> > > > > The phrase undoubtedly meant something different when Mr. Skillings wrote it in the 1800s. Perhaps he means a smile? We see that he was against rum and tobacco, so he had to get his thrills somewhere.
>> > > > I’d never heard of Robert F. Skillings, so when I read the first line of his poem about
>> > > > what a very pleasant mouth July is, Purty Mouth was the first thing that came to mind.
>> > > > According to Skillings, the sunlight kisses the foliage with that mouth. Sounds hot.
>> > > Do you think it possible that Skillings wrote the word month
>> > > rather than mouth, but his editor/publisher mistook the n for a u?
>> > We thought that maybe George Dance had put the wrong word in there, as the poem really does call for "month" rather than mouth, but other reproductions of the poem had "mouth." The poem isn't in the "Memoir of Robert F. Skillings, with Genealogy and Poems" so hard to tell. We don't see where it was first published.
>> I got the same results.
> There are other July poems in the Memoir but not this one:

> https://books.google.com/books?id=YItRAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA31&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q&fúlse

> Do you suppose that Benders wrote it as a joke and put it on the Internet?

Looks more like something PJR would do.

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
>>
>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
>>>      To be in a country town.
>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
>>> [...]
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
>>
>>
>> "Pleasant mouth"?
>>
>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?

> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.

> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have
> "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6
> times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else
> who put it on their site did the same.

> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text
> online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I
> suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says
> he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it
> was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the
> "mouth."

> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining,
> when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the
> mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that
> unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of
> the poem.

Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further information surfaces.

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 10:25:54 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > > George J. Dance wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > >>> George J. Dance wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> > >>>
> > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> > >>>> To be in a country town.
> > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > >>>> [...]
> > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> "Pleasant mouth"?
> > >>>
> > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> > >
> > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> > >
> > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
> > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
> > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
> > >> else who put it on their site did the same.
> > >
> > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
> > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
> > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
> > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
> > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
> > >> appearance of the "mouth."
> > >
> > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
> > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
> > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
> > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
> > >> version of the poem.
> > >
> > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> > > information surfaces.
> > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
> > on this page (bottom left-hand corner).
> >
> > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up
> >
> > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
> > up online, and it definitely says 'month'.
> >
> > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
> > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
> > says 'mouth'.
> >
> > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt
> >
> > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
> > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)
> NancyGene beat you to it, George.

Anyone with Google search could find it.

HTH and HAND.



> You should try forming an alliance with her. She's a great person to have on your side.

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:08:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 10:25:54 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > > On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > > > George J. Dance wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > > >>> George J. Dance wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> > > >>>> To be in a country town.
> > > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > > >>>> [...]
> > > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> "Pleasant mouth"?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> > > >
> > > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> > > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> > > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> > > >
> > > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> > > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> > > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
> > > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
> > > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
> > > >> else who put it on their site did the same.
> > > >
> > > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
> > > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
> > > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
> > > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
> > > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
> > > >> appearance of the "mouth."
> > > >
> > > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
> > > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
> > > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
> > > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
> > > >> version of the poem.
> > > >
> > > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> > > > information surfaces.
> > > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
> > > on this page (bottom left-hand corner).
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up
> > >
> > > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
> > > up online, and it definitely says 'month'.
> > >
> > > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
> > > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
> > > says 'mouth'.
> > >
> > > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt
> > >
> > > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
> > > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)
> > NancyGene beat you to it, George.
> Anyone with Google search could find it.

George Dance had previously said that he was only able to find versions that said "mouth."

Did George Dance only acquire Google 5 hours ago?

Michael Pendragon
"Well, I've gone black and did come back. The black women I've had sex
with have been very exciting... there's that element of interest,
slightly different muscle tone and genital make up, that's hard to
describe in a family oriented group... it is a very tasty treat
indeed..."
-- Will Dockery, the man who went black and came back.

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:24:43 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:08:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
> > > > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > > > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> > > > >>>> To be in a country town.
> > > > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > > > >>>> [...]
> > > > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> "Pleasant mouth"?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> > > > >
> > > > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> > > > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> > > > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> > > > >
> > > > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> > > > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> > > > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
> > > > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
> > > > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
> > > > >> else who put it on their site did the same.
> > > > >
> > > > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
> > > > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
> > > > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
> > > > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
> > > > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
> > > > >> appearance of the "mouth."
> > > > >
> > > > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
> > > > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
> > > > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
> > > > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
> > > > >> version of the poem.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> > > > > information surfaces.
> > > > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
> > > > on this page (bottom left-hand corner).
> > > >
> > > > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up
> > > >
> > > > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
> > > > up online, and it definitely says 'month'.
> > > >
> > > > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
> > > > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
> > > > says 'mouth'.
> > > >
> > > > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt
> > > >
> > > > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
> > > > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)
>
> George Dance had previously said that he was only able to find versions that said "mouth."

He obviously tried different keywords to locate the correct version.

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> July, by Robert F. Skillings

> A very pleasant month is this
>      To be in a country town.
> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> [...]
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html

Good to see this poem finally corrected for the archives.

🙂

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:24:47 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:24:43 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:08:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> > > > > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> > > > > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> > > > > >>>> To be in a country town.
> > > > > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> > > > > >>>> [...]
> > > > > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> "Pleasant mouth"?
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> > > > > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> > > > > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> > > > > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> > > > > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
> > > > > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
> > > > > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
> > > > > >> else who put it on their site did the same.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
> > > > > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
> > > > > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
> > > > > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
> > > > > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
> > > > > >> appearance of the "mouth."
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
> > > > > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
> > > > > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
> > > > > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
> > > > > >> version of the poem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> > > > > > information surfaces.
> > > > > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
> > > > > on this page (bottom left-hand corner).
> > > > >
> > > > > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
> > > > > up online, and it definitely says 'month'.
> > > > >
> > > > > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
> > > > > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
> > > > > says 'mouth'.
> > > > >
> > > > > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
> > > > > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)
> >
> > George Dance had previously said that he was only able to find versions that said "mouth."
> He obviously tried different keywords to locate the correct version.

Wouldn't it be funny if his Google search had turned up NancyGene's post?

Michael Pendragon
"Like sliding into the heart of darkness, man, hot and tight... and
bushy."
-- Will Dockery on his experiences with "black pussy."

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 3:13:15 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:24:47 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:24:43 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 12:08:42 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > > > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > > > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > > > > > >>>> To be in a country town. 
> > > > > > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > > > > >>>> [...] 
> > > > > > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>> "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > > > > > >>> 
> > > > > > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > > > > > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > > > > > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > > > > > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > > > > > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them 
> > > > > > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 
> > > > > > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone 
> > > > > > >> else who put it on their site did the same. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the 
> > > > > > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each 
> > > > > > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's 
> > > > > > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find 
> > > > > > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the 
> > > > > > >> appearance of the "mouth." 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver 
> > > > > > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run 
> > > > > > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, 
> > > > > > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct 
> > > > > > >> version of the poem. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further 
> > > > > > > information surfaces. 
> > > > > > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book, 
> > > > > > on this page (bottom left-hand corner). 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown 
> > > > > > up online, and it definitely says 'month'. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR 
> > > > > > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely 
> > > > > > says 'mouth'. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F 
> > > > > > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.) 
> > > 
> > > George Dance had previously said that he was only able to find versions that said "mouth." 
> > He obviously tried different keywords to locate the correct version.
> Wouldn't it be funny if his Google search had turned up NancyGene's 

Google "John Dunne" for that.

🙂

From: "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings 'July' poem"

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 9:58:02 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-08-01 7:16 a.m., NancyGene wrote: 
> > On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 9:22:11 AM UTC, HC wrote: 
> >> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:10:44 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
> >>> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 10:03:58 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote: 
> >>>> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 5:26:12 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: 
>
> >>>>> We expect to be given full credit (everywhere) for finding the original poem, and where and when it was published. HC is correct in that it should be "month" instead of "mouth," and he should get credit for being the first to point this out in a post on AAPC. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The book: 
> >>>>> https://books.google.com/books/about/Local_and_National_Poets_of_America_with.html?id=jQs2AQAAMAAJ 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The poem: 
> >>>>> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Local_and_National_Poets_of_America_with/jQs2AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Each+verdant+leaflet+beams+with+bliss,%22&pg=PA732&printsec=frontcover 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> “Local and National Poets of America” Thos. Herringshaw 
> >>>>> Chicago, ILL, American Publishers Association, 1892 
> >>>>> Skillings, Robert F. – Peak’s Island, Me. p. 732 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> The correct version of the poem: 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> "July. 
> >>>>> Robert F. Skillings. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> A very pleasant month is this 
> >>>>> To be in a country town. 
> >>>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss, 
> >>>>> East verdant leaflet beams with bliss, 
> >>>>> I see not one that’s brown. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Fresh zephyrs fan the thrifty trees 
> >>>>> The oaks, the elms, the willows, 
> >>>>> The lake’s face caressed by the breeze 
> >>>>> In imitation of the seas, 
> >>>>> Is flecked with tiny billows." 
> >>>> Ah yes, bless Google Books! There's a bunch of books out there, I can imagine also at Google Books, that have forgotten prose from minor poets. I believe I may still have an antique book with old poetry not very well known. 
> >>> George Dance wrote that "by luck" he found the book in an archive 8 minutes ago. He would have saved himself time by reading our post here, in which we found the full book, cover, credits and poem an hour and a half ago. George makes more trouble for himself. We wonder if he is still trying to invent fire and the wheel? 
> >> Don’t think he didn’t read your post. 
> >> Denial is just a defense mechanism. 
> > We are sure that George Dance "did" read our post.
> Well, I'm reading it this morning, since you and what looks like the 
> newest member of mini-Cerbanus have bumped it to the top of the group. 
> 
> Thank you for finding and sharing this. Knowing how time-consuming 
> googling can be, I can well imagine the time and effor work you put into 
> finding it. 
> 
> I assure you that, if I ever find and blog a "July" poem by a "Robert F. 
> Stillings," I will be sure to give you credit.

"Robert F. Stillings", he must have been a comrade of "John Dunne ".

🙂

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-08-01 7:16 a.m., NancyGene wrote:
>> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 9:22:11 AM UTC, HC wrote:
>>> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 7:10:44 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
>
>
>>>>>> The book:
>>>>>> https://books.google.com/books/about/Local_and_National_Poets_of_America_with.html?id=jQs2AQAAMAAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The poem:
>>>>>> https://www.google.com/books/edition/Local_and_National_Poets_of_America_with/jQs2AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22Each+verdant+leaflet+beams+with+bliss,%22&pg=PA732&printsec=frontcover
>>>>>>
>>>>>> “Local and National Poets of America” Thos. Herringshaw
>>>>>> Chicago, ILL, American Publishers Association, 1892
>>>>>> Skillings, Robert F. – Peak’s Island, Me. p. 732
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The correct version of the poem:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "July.
>>>>>> Robert F. Skillings.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A very pleasant month is this
>>>>>> To be in a country town.
>>>>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss,
>>>>>> East verdant leaflet beams with bliss,
>>>>>> I see not one that’s brown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fresh zephyrs fan the thrifty trees
>>>>>> The oaks, the elms, the willows,
>>>>>> The lake’s face caressed by the breeze
>>>>>> In imitation of the seas,
>>>>>> Is flecked with tiny billows."
>>>>> Ah yes, bless Google Books! There's a bunch of books out there, I can imagine also at Google Books, that have forgotten prose from minor poets. I believe I may still have an antique book with old poetry not very well known.
>>>> George Dance wrote that "by luck" he found the book in an archive 8 minutes ago. He would have saved himself time by reading our post here, in which we found the full book, cover, credits and poem an hour and a half ago. George makes more trouble for himself. We wonder if he is still trying to invent fire and the wheel?
>>> Don’t think he didn’t read your post.
>>> Denial is just a defense mechanism.
>> We are sure that George Dance "did" read our post.  

> Well, I'm reading it this morning, since you and what looks like the 
> newest member of mini-Cerbanus have bumped it to the top of the group.

> Thank you for finding and sharing this. Knowing how time-consuming 
> googling can be, I can well imagine the time and effort work you put into 
> finding it.

> I assure you that, if I ever find and blog a "July" poem by a "Robert F. 
> Stillings," I will be sure to give you credit.

"Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings 'July' poem" -Nancy Gene 

Again, is Robert F. Stillings, a friend of the poet John Dunne?

🙂

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:25:54 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > >>> George J. Dance wrote: 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > >>>> To be in a country town. 
> > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > >>>> [...] 
> > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > >>> 
> > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > > 
> > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > > 
> > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them 
> > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 
> > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone 
> > >> else who put it on their site did the same. 
> > > 
> > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the 
> > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each 
> > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's 
> > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find 
> > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the 
> > >> appearance of the "mouth." 
> > > 
> > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver 
> > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run 
> > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, 
> > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct 
> > >> version of the poem. 
> > > 
> > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further 
> > > information surfaces. 
> > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book, 
> > on this page (bottom left-hand corner). 
> > 
> > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up 
> > 
> > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown 
> > up online, and it definitely says 'month'. 
> > 
> > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR 
> > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely 
> > says 'mouth'. 
> > 
> > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt 
> > 
> > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F 
> > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)
> NancyGene beat you to it, George. 
Yes, we did, although we spelled the guy's name wrong.  If George Dance had wanted to do this the right (gracious) way, he would have acknowledged HC's noting that the line had "mouth" in it.  Then, before posting his "find," he should have looked at the messages to be sure that someone (i.e., NancyGene) had not already found and posted the original poem.  If he didn't look at the messages before posting his own "find," he should have, after the fact, said thanks, "good find," good research, I noted that there are two different publication dates but it seems to be the same book, etc.  But George Dance didn't do that.  
> 
> You should try forming an alliance with her. She's a great person to have on your side.
Thank you, Michael.  We think that George Dance has chosen his side and it is not the right one.  

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 4:32:22 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:25:54 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > >>> George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > > >>>> To be in a country town. 
> > > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > > >>>> [...] 
> > > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > > > 
> > > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > > > 
> > > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them 
> > > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 
> > > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone 
> > > >> else who put it on their site did the same. 
> > > > 
> > > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the 
> > > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each 
> > > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's 
> > > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find 
> > > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the 
> > > >> appearance of the "mouth." 
> > > > 
> > > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver 
> > > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run 
> > > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, 
> > > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct 
> > > >> version of the poem. 
> > > > 
> > > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further 
> > > > information surfaces. 
> > > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book, 
> > > on this page (bottom left-hand corner). 
> > > 
> > > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up 
> > > 
> > > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown 
> > > up online, and it definitely says 'month'. 
> > > 
> > > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR 
> > > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely 
> > > says 'mouth'. 
> > > 
> > > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt 
> > > 
> > > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F 
> > > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.) 
> > NancyGene beat you to it, George.
> Yes, we did, although we spelled the guy's name wrong

Don't worry about it, Nancy Gene, we all make mistakes sometimes.

HTH and HAND.

. If George Dance had wanted to do this the right (gracious) way, he would have acknowledged HC's noting that the line had "mouth" in it. Then, before posting his "find," he should have looked at the messages to be sure that someone (i.e., NancyGene) had not already found and posted the original poem. If he didn't look at the messages before posting his own "find," he should have, after the fact, said thanks, "good find," good research, I noted that there are two different publication dates but it seems to be the same book, etc. But George Dance didn't do that.
> > 
> > You should try forming an alliance with her. She's a great person to have on your side.
> Thank you, Michael. We think that George Dance has chosen his side and it is not the right one.

"Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem." -Nancy Gene

Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?

HTH and HAND.

🙂

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:42:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem." -Nancy Gene
>
> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?

Such a smuck!
You post this right after posting this:

Will Dockery
4:57 PM (5 hours ago)
Don't worry about it, Nancy Gene, we all make mistakes sometimes.
HTH and HAND.

Yes, you ego freakin', control trippin' obsession is getting the better of you, I strongly suggest some professional intervention!

On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 9:41:01 PM UTC-4, Ash Wurthing wrote:
> On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 5:42:58 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
>
> > "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem." -Nancy Gene 
> > 
> > Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
> Such a smuck! 

Lighten up, Ash, it's all in good fun.

HTH and HAND.

🙂

> You post this right after posting this: 
> 
> Will Dockery 
> 4:57 PM (5 hours ago)
> Don't worry about it, Nancy Gene, we all make mistakes sometimes. 
> HTH and HAND.
> Yes, you ego freakin', control trippin' obsession is getting the better of you, I strongly suggest some professional intervention!

On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> > George J. Dance wrote:
> >
> >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
> >>> George J. Dance wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
> >>>
> >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
> >>>>      To be in a country town.
> >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> >>>> [...]
> >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> "Pleasant mouth"?
> >>>
> >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?
> >
> >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.
> >
> >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them
> >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem
> >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone
> >> else who put it on their site did the same.
> >
> >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the
> >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each
> >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's
> >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find
> >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the
> >> appearance of the "mouth."
> >
> >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver
> >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run
> >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally,
> >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct
> >> version of the poem.
> >
> > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further
> > information surfaces.
> By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book,
> on this page (bottom left-hand corner).
>
> https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up
>
> It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown
> up online, and it definitely says 'month'.
>
> That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR
> scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely
> says 'mouth'.
>
> https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt
>
> (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F
> for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)

Cool poem and back story as well.....

On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem." -Nancy Gene
>
> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
>

By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
named Seán Dunne.

I wonder if he was related to John.

On Wednesday, August 3, 2022 at 10:14:14 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>
> > "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem." -Nancy Gene
> >
> > Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
> >
> By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
> named Seán Dunne.
>
> I wonder if he was related to John.

I don't care who you are, that's funny.

🙂

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem." -Nancy Gene
>>
>> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
>>

> By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
> named Seán Dunne.

> I wonder if he was related to John.

Same one..?

Sean Dunne at The Brogue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?vÐhCOl3ycgc

On 2022-08-03 6:22 p.m., General-Zod wrote:
> George J. Dance wrote:
>
>> On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem."
>>> -Nancy Gene
>>>
>>> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
>>>
>
>> By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
>> named Seán Dunne.
>
>> I wonder if he was related to John.
>
> Same one..?
>
> Sean Dunne at The Brogue
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?vÐhCOl3ycgc

No. Sean Dunne the poet died in 1995.

Thanks for posting that, though. I thought the "thesaurus" joke was
hilarious, though I could see a lot of people not getting it. Maybe he
should have closed it with a more obvious line, like "I'm at a loss for
words."

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-08-03 6:22 p.m., General-Zod wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem."
>>>> -Nancy Gene
>>>>
>>>> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
>>>>
>>
>>> By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
>>> named Seán Dunne.
>>
>>> I wonder if he was related to John.
>>
>> Same one..?
>>
>> Sean Dunne at The Brogue
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?vÐhCOl3ycgc

> No. Sean Dunne the poet died in 1995.

> Thanks for posting that, though. I thought the "thesaurus" joke was
> hilarious, though I could see a lot of people not getting it. Maybe he
> should have closed it with a more obvious line, like "I'm at a loss for
> words."


Indeed I found him quite amusing...

Zod wrote:

> George J. Dance wrote:

>> On 2022-08-03 6:22 p.m., General-Zod wrote:
>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem."
>>>>> -Nancy Gene
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
>>>> named Seán Dunne.
>>>
>>>> I wonder if he was related to John.
>>>
>>> Same one..?
>>>
>>> Sean Dunne at The Brogue
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?vÐhCOl3ycgc

>> No. Sean Dunne the poet died in 1995.

I'm not familiar with him, but will check him out.

>> Thanks for posting that, though. I thought the "thesaurus" joke was
>> hilarious, though I could see a lot of people not getting it. Maybe he
>> should have closed it with a more obvious line, like "I'm at a loss for
>> words."


> Indeed I found him quite amusing...

Will Dockery wrote:

> Zod wrote:

>> George J. Dance wrote:

>>> On 2022-08-03 6:22 p.m., General-Zod wrote:
>>>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-08-01 5:42 p.m., Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>>> "Re: We found the origin of the Robert F. Stillings "July" poem."
>>>>>> -Nancy Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, so, was Robert F. Stillings a friend of John Dunne?
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> By coincidence, yesterday I was working on a wiki article for a poet
>>>>> named Seán Dunne.
>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if he was related to John.
>>>>
>>>> Same one..?
>>>>
>>>> Sean Dunne at The Brogue
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?vÐhCOl3ycgc

>>> No. Sean Dunne the poet died in 1995.

> I'm not familiar with him, but will check him out.

As shall I...

>>> Thanks for posting that, though. I thought the "thesaurus" joke was
>>> hilarious, though I could see a lot of people not getting it. Maybe he
>>> should have closed it with a more obvious line, like "I'm at a loss for
>>> words."


>> Indeed I found him quite amusing...

George J. Dance wrote:

> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote:
>> George J. Dance wrote:
>>>
>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings
>>
>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this
>>>      To be in a country town.
>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
>>> [...]
>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html
>>
>>
>> "Pleasant mouth"?
>>
>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling?

> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when
> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog,
> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web.

> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've
> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as
> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them have
> "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 6
> times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone else
> who put it on their site did the same.

> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the text
> online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each other. I
> suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's son says
> he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find either. If it
> was typed in from a print book, that could explain the appearance of the
> "mouth."

> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver lining,
> when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run of the
> mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, that
> unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct version of
> the poem.

Well put.

George J. Dance wrote:
>
> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog:
> July, by Robert F. Skillings

> A very pleasant month is this
>      To be in a country town.
> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss
> [...]
> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html

Again, a good read.