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On Monday, August 1, 2022 at 2:25:54 AM UTC, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:53:32 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote:
> > On 2022-07-31 5:08 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > > George J. Dance wrote: 
> > > 
> > >> On 2022-07-31 2:13 p.m., W-Dockery wrote: 
> > >>> George J. Dance wrote: 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > >>>> July, by Robert F. Skillings 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> A very pleasant mo[n]th is this 
> > >>>> To be in a country town. 
> > >>>> The sunlight doth the foliage kiss 
> > >>>> [...] 
> > >>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/07/july-robert-f-skillings.html 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> "Pleasant mouth"? 
> > >>> 
> > >>> A typo or a Edmund Spenser style spelling? 
> > > 
> > >> Heh! I'd say it's a typo, though it is an interesting image, when 
> > >> combined with "kiss" in L3. So I've changed it to "month" on the blog, 
> > >> and changed it everywhere it's promoted on the web. 
> > > 
> > >> Sadly, while it's probably a typo, it's on all the online copies I've 
> > >> seen -- I've looked at 3, and had to make decide which one to use (as 
> > >> they vary in whether or not they indent the lines). Yet all of them 
> > >> have "mouth". And I think I understand why. I must have read the poem 
> > >> 6 times, and each time I read "month" -- and I expect that everyone 
> > >> else who put it on their site did the same. 
> > > 
> > >> The other problem was that there's no authoritative source for the 
> > >> text online, just websites that appear to have simply c&p'd each 
> > >> other. I suspect that it's from one of the two anthologies Skillings's 
> > >> son says he had poems published in, but I haven't been able to find 
> > >> either. If it was typed in from a print book, that could explain the 
> > >> appearance of the "mouth." 
> > > 
> > >> Thanks for bringing that to my attention here. There is a silver 
> > >> lining, when I or a reader catches an error like that: unlike the run 
> > >> of the mill poetry site, it gets corrected. So I'd say, provisionally, 
> > >> that unlike those other sites, PPB is a place to find a correct 
> > >> version of the poem. 
> > > 
> > > Again, it does seem to be a typo, and should be corrected, until further 
> > > information surfaces. 
> > By luck, I was able to find the original publication. It's in this book, 
> > on this page (bottom left-hand corner). 
> > 
> > https://archive.org/details/localnationalpoe00herr/page/746/mode/2up 
> > 
> > It looks like a vanity press, and the type is small, but it can be blown 
> > up online, and it definitely says 'month'. 
> > 
> > That also led me to the source of the typo. It was made by the OCR 
> > scanner in the "Full Text" version of the poem, which just as definitely 
> > says 'mouth'. 
> > 
> > https://archive.org/stream/localnationalpoe00herr/localnationalpoe00herr_djvu.txt 
> > 
> > (You'll have to scroll down to the page. The easiest way is to Ctrl+F 
> > for "Skillings" - it takes just 2 clicks.)
> NancyGene beat you to it, George. 
Yes, we did, although we spelled the guy's name wrong.  If George Dance had wanted to do this the right (gracious) way, he would have acknowledged HC's noting that the line had "mouth" in it.  Then, before posting his "find," he should have looked at the messages to be sure that someone (i.e., NancyGene) had not already found and posted the original poem.  If he didn't look at the messages before posting his own "find," he should have, after the fact, said thanks, "good find," good research, I noted that there are two different publication dates but it seems to be the same book, etc.  But George Dance didn't do that.  
> 
> You should try forming an alliance with her. She's a great person to have on your side.
Thank you, Michael.  We think that George Dance has chosen his side and it is not the right one.