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Started by "Derek nb. Free
Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:55
Sound Insulation
Author: "Derek nb. Free
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:55
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 05:55
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I want to add some sound proofing of my engine on a nb cruiser. I have seen what looks like a fairly thin silver flexible sheets stapled onto the underside of the engine cover boards on some nbs, but can't find anything on google seaches. I am totally useless at DIY, so any fix more complicated than hammering in a few nails will probably be beyond me. Anyone out there able to point me in the right direction? Thanks Derek
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: Prepair Ltd
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:23
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:23
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On 12 Dec 2005 05:55:19 -0800, "Derek nb. Free Time" <DLPorteous@pentagonchemicals.co.uk> wrote: >I want to add some sound proofing of my engine on a nb cruiser. I have >seen what looks like a fairly thin silver flexible sheets stapled onto >the underside of the engine cover boards on some nbs, but can't find >anything on google seaches. I am totally useless at DIY, so any fix >more complicated than hammering in a few nails will probably be beyond >me. Anyone out there able to point me in the right direction? > >Thanks >Derek Rockwool is one of the best materials, but needs 'containing'. It is fireproof and meets safety requirements. We used to use ali panels 3' X 4' X 1" with one face made of perforated ali facing the sound area and the Rockwool behind the perf. 1" to 1.5" is fine for most diesels, but bear in mind that sound carries along in the airstream from the cooling system. Peter -- Peter A Forbes Prepair Ltd, Luton, UK prepair@easynet.co.uk http://www.prepair.co.uk
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: "Tony Brooks"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:48
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:48
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"Derek nb. Free Time" <DLPorteous@pentagonchemicals.co.uk> wrote in message news:1134395718.924923.62320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I want to add some sound proofing of my engine on a nb cruiser. I have > seen what looks like a fairly thin silver flexible sheets stapled onto > the underside of the engine cover boards on some nbs, but can't find > anything on google seaches. I am totally useless at DIY, so any fix > more complicated than hammering in a few nails will probably be beyond > me. Anyone out there able to point me in the right direction? > > Thanks > Derek I used white fabric faced acoustic insulation with a synthetic lead layer in it from TW Marine. This comes in a variety of types and thickness and some are available as self adhesive. The face is far more damage resistant than the types I have seen in general chandlers. Please remember you have to stop the sound bouncing and echoing around the engine bay, so either you use an awful lot of sound proofing or you box the engine and soundproof the inner faces of the box. I made my box out of 12mm WBP hardwood ply. It is also vital that you ensure you leave the equivalent of 2 x 150mm diameter breather holes in the box for engine combustion air for a 1500 cc engine and pro rata. You stop the sound leaking out of the holes by providing baffles. It would appear that it is always the very last bit of insulation that makes the most difference. If this boat has an air-cooled Lister in it I think I would advise you not to spend too much time or money on it because the cooling air requirements are such that it will be difficult to do much with. What made a fair difference on mine was using closed cell, self adhesive, foam tape (sometimes known as hatch tape) to seal the joint where the cruiser stern deck boards sit on the support framing (ensuring you have enough engine air). If you want a look and listen and can get to the South Midlands please email me off group (email address on website below). -- Tony Brooks www.TB-Training.co.uk
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: "brianH"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:56
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:56
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"Tony Brooks" <brooksap@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:dnk9kd$go6$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com... > > "Derek nb. Free Time" <DLPorteous@pentagonchemicals.co.uk> wrote in > message news:1134395718.924923.62320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>I want to add some sound proofing of my engine on a nb cruiser. I have >> seen what looks like a fairly thin silver flexible sheets stapled onto >> the underside of the engine cover boards on some nbs, but can't find >> anything on google seaches. I am totally useless at DIY, so any fix >> more complicated than hammering in a few nails will probably be beyond >> me. Anyone out there able to point me in the right direction? >> >> Thanks >> Derek > > > I used white fabric faced acoustic insulation with a synthetic lead layer > in it from TW Marine. This comes in a variety of types and thickness and > some are available as self adhesive. The face is far more damage resistant > than the types I have seen in general chandlers. You can also get sound proofing materials from ASAP Supplies by mail order www.asap-supplies.co.uk -- Brian Ancient Order of Sewer Ants
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: "Trevor George"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:06
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:06
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Derek nb. Free Time" wrote in message ... > I want to add some sound proofing of my engine on a nb cruiser. Here's an archived thread (courtesy of Google Groups) of my similar project at http://tinyurl.com/7gso2 -- Regards ..... Trevor George, Bristol, UK. Home - http://www.PoolesWharf.com Work - http://www.OnMyWindow.co.uk
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: Chris Thompson
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:35
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On 12 Dec 2005 05:55:19 -0800, "Derek nb. Free Time" <DLPorteous@pentagonchemicals.co.uk> wrote: >I want to add some sound proofing of my engine on a nb cruiser. I have >seen what looks like a fairly thin silver flexible sheets stapled onto >the underside of the engine cover boards on some nbs, but can't find >anything on google seaches. I am totally useless at DIY, so any fix >more complicated than hammering in a few nails will probably be beyond >me. Anyone out there able to point me in the right direction? > >Thanks >Derek On my 25' Spirecraft which was already stern heavy I covered everything in sight round the engine with 3Ms Thinsulate as supplied by Reading Marine. It made a tremendous difference and it's only 25mm or so thick. However, it was rather heavy on the wallet! HTH -- Tommo NB Primrose on Great Ouse at Buckden.
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: "Derek nb. Free
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:21
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:21
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Many thanks to everyone above. Lots of useful information here, not to mention a project for Spring. Regards Derek Porteous nb Free Time
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: "Uncle Marvo"
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:13
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:13
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I was in Oundle Marina yesterday buying most of the chandlery up, and whilst browsing the shelves I saw some foil-encased insulation material. I wondered what it was for! Oundle is on 01832 282862, Mark Nye the guvnor is a bit of an expert on boats of all kinds. Though I'm sure it is available elsewhere too.
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: Bob Adams
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:34
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:34
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In message <1134728028.455628.303660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Uncle Marvo <paul.r@fortescue.org.uk> writes >I was in Oundle Marina yesterday buying most of the chandlery up, and >whilst browsing the shelves I saw some foil-encased insulation material. I >wondered what it was for! Can we expect an answer from you sometime soon - or is this supposed to be a quiz question? Bob -- Bob Adams - email address: bob55 at ntlworld.com
Re: Sound Insulation
Author: "Uncle Marvo"
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:58
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:58
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Quiz? No, it was rhetorical!
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