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On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 04:51:22 +0100, I Ballard wrote:
>
> Now I want to know if the Warden was correct to issue a ticket for parking
> here?

You've got a lot of information, but although it *looks* like a
cycle/motorcycle parking area, IMHO the one thing you've missed out is
whether this was *intended* to be used as a cycle/motorcycle parking
area.

You might check with the local authority on that one, but be prepared
to get passed around from department to department.

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"I Ballard" <iballard@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> OK, I need some advise on this one, let me send you to two photo's of the
> location before anyone answers my question !
>
> http://www.cmirrors.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parking/1.jpg
>
> http://www.cmirrors.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/parking/2.jpg
>
> As you can see from these two pictures, the area I parked my motorcycle
was
> next to the single upturned u bar thats embedded in the ground and fenced
> off from the general public, the motorcycle was not parked on the road,
nor
> was it on the footpath (footway parking is on the ticket). The bike was
not
> parked on the service hatches to the Telecoms boxes in the ground either !
>
> Now I want to know if the Warden was correct to issue a ticket for parking
> here ?
>
> Let me point out a few things as well, there was no sign saying no parking
> for motorcycles or cycles even though this single cycle parking bar is in
> the ground.
>
> The area is also fenced off, so the general public have to walk around it,
> so here it's not an obstruction to pedestrians.
>
> Info from here ( http://www.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00038-ap.htm#271 )
>
> Stands etc. for bicycles or motor cycles.
> 271. - (1) The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984 is amended as follows.
>
> (2) In section 63 (power of authorities to provide stands and racks for
> bicycles), for "and racks for bicycles" substitute "or racks for, or
devices
> for securing, bicycles or motor cycles".
>
> (3) In section 136(4) (meaning of "motor cycle"), for "section 57"
substitue
> "sections 57 and 63".
>
>
> Info from http://www.mag-uk.org/publications/dtlr_ta_2002-2.pdf
>
> ORDER-MAKING
> The powers of authorities in England, Scotland and Wales in
> relation to the provision of stands and racks for bicycles is set out in
> Section 63 of the Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984. This was
> amended by the Transport Act 2000 (Section 271 [2]) and the
> Transport (Scotland) Act 2001 (Section 75 [2]) to "The powers of
> any authority under this Act to provide parking shall extend to
> providing, in roads or elsewhere, stands or racks for, or devices for
> securing, bicycles or motorcycles".
>
> Raised A horizontal bar is provided at a height of approximately 40-60 cm.
> This style is generally provided at the edge of the carriageway and again
> requires the user to use their own lock. This type can represent a trip
> hazard or impediment if installed along the edge of footways. Preferably,
> they should be integral with pedestrian railings or protected by other
means
> to safeguard pedestrians, particularly people with impaired vision. Where
> high density parking is closely associated with pedestrian guard railings,
> users may need to put their hand through the vertical railings in order to
> reach the horizontal bar to use their locking cables. In such situations
the
> width between the vertical bars of the railings should be approximately
> 160mm.
>
> It is often not possible to pass a lock through a motorcycle frame. Hence
> any anchor point provided needs to be at a suitable height for locking the
> wheel.
>
>
> Sensible comments / options welcome.
>
>

On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:47:46 +0100, "The Vicar"
<john.grinham_nospam@softhome.net> wrote:

>If you are in the AA or RAC, contact them for legal support.

If you are going to continue to post to uk.r.m., it would be nice if
you would follow convention and place your post below the text to
which you are replying, snipping irrelevant text and signatures.

Look here: http://www.ukrm.net/faq/ukrmnetiquette.html

Cheers

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"Pip" <pip@ukrm.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 7 Oct 2003 09:47:46 +0100, "The Vicar"
> <john.grinham_nospam@softhome.net> wrote:
>
> >If you are in the AA or RAC, contact them for legal support.
>
> If you are going to continue to post to uk.r.m., it would be nice if
> you would follow convention and place your post below the text to
> which you are replying, snipping irrelevant text and signatures.

Apologies Pip, I've seen this request before and usually do post as you
suggest, but forgot on this occasion. I'll lay prone on the floor and beat
myself with a twig.

At least I now know how easy it is to get up your nose!

John.

The Vicar wrote:

> Apologies Pip, I've seen this request before and usually do post as
> you suggest, but forgot on this occasion. I'll lay prone on the floor
> and beat myself with a twig.

No no, lie face down on the floor while we take turns to kick you in the
cunt.


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"I Ballard" <iballard@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > I advise that, if you want our help, then you post here first before
> > asking uk.legal and don't just come crawling here when they've had a go
> > at you for your "gone for 2 minutes" type comments.
>
>
> STFU

Gosh!  No!  I'm mortally wounded.


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