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8 total messages Started by xantia@invalid.c Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:08
Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99216
Author: xantia@invalid.c
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 01:08
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1997 Xantia 1.9 TD

Driving along normally tonight I smelt an electrical burning, looked
under the bonnet and there was a fair bit of smoke coming from the
alternator.

No warning lights - everything electrical still appearing to work okay.
Nothing electrical has been messed with recently. Is the alternator
toast? Is this how an alternator dies normally or should I be looking
for a fault that's caused it?


Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99248
Author: "k&mautomotive"
Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 06:20
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there could be a short somewhere causing the alternator to overload
making it smoke this doesn't mean the alternator is junk. It probably
still works fine. You should find the short first before you drive it
again and fry the alternator and probably some wires too.

Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99342
Author: xantia@invalid.c
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 05:31
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In message <1132496436.825521.125790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
k&mautomotive <devoncoolman@hotmail.com> writes
>there could be a short somewhere causing the alternator to overload
>making it smoke this doesn't mean the alternator is junk. It probably
>still works fine. You should find the short first before you drive it
>again and fry the alternator and probably some wires too.
>
Thanks - having checked with a multimeter it is indeed working - but I
can't replicate the problem. Have tried turning everything electrical
on, but the alternator remains stone cold.

Any advice on where to go from here?
Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99430
Author: "John"
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 22:46
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There would need to be a fair current to cause the alternator to smoke.
Apart from a short-circuit somewhere, the only other thing that would cause
that would be glow plugs staying on. Check with a test light or multimeter
to see if they're switching off. Check the connections on the timer relay to
see if they look if they've got a bit hot.

John

<xantia@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uuHXASN7uVgDFwhv@xtreme.pipex.net...
> In message <1132496436.825521.125790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> k&mautomotive <devoncoolman@hotmail.com> writes
>>there could be a short somewhere causing the alternator to overload
>>making it smoke this doesn't mean the alternator is junk. It probably
>>still works fine. You should find the short first before you drive it
>>again and fry the alternator and probably some wires too.
>>
> Thanks - having checked with a multimeter it is indeed working - but I
> can't replicate the problem. Have tried turning everything electrical on,
> but the alternator remains stone cold.
>
> Any advice on where to go from here?


Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99441
Author: xantia@invalid.c
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 03:34
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In message <dlti78$pqt$1@reader01.news.esat.net>, John
<bravo6@gofree.indigo.ie> writes
>There would need to be a fair current to cause the alternator to smoke.
>Apart from a short-circuit somewhere, the only other thing that would cause
>that would be glow plugs staying on. Check with a test light or multimeter
>to see if they're switching off. Check the connections on the timer relay to
>see if they look if they've got a bit hot.
>
Thanks for the reply - the connections on the timer relay seem fine. It
ran normally for a few minutes this morning and the alternator remained
cold. Then there was a very nasty crackle on the radio and the burning
smell returned and alternator started to warm... so it sounds like
something is shorting out at random intervals.

Where do you start looking, for short like this?

Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99495
Author: "Pete M"
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:53
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In news:w1jgGbFUy8fDFwK3@xtreme.pipex.net,
xantia@invalid.co.uk <xantia@invalid.co.uk> decided to enlighten our
sheltered souls with a rant as follows
> 1997 Xantia 1.9 TD
>
> Driving along normally tonight I smelt an electrical burning, looked
> under the bonnet and there was a fair bit of smoke coming from the
> alternator.
>
> No warning lights - everything electrical still appearing to work
> okay. Nothing electrical has been messed with recently. Is the
> alternator toast? Is this how an alternator dies normally or should I
> be looking for a fault that's caused it?

I had a Peugeot 405 diseasel [1] which did this.

Was a slight fuel leak which dribbled into the alternator on a long run.

Like a bloody Ultravox video when I first spotted it after a 200 mile run.

[1] Yes, I owned a diesel. I was given it. I gave it away that week..


--
Pete M

Alfa 155
Ford Capri (still broked)
Porsche 911 3.2 (For Sale - ebay soon)
COSOC #5, OMF#9
Scouse Git extraordinaire. Liverpool, Great Britain


Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99626
Author: "John"
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:22
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Sounds like an internal short in the alternator. You'll have to replace it.

John


<xantia@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Nx$vH4BZHpgDFwFe@xtreme.pipex.net...
> In message <dlti78$pqt$1@reader01.news.esat.net>, John
> <bravo6@gofree.indigo.ie> writes
>>There would need to be a fair current to cause the alternator to smoke.
>>Apart from a short-circuit somewhere, the only other thing that would
>>cause
>>that would be glow plugs staying on. Check with a test light or multimeter
>>to see if they're switching off. Check the connections on the timer relay
>>to
>>see if they look if they've got a bit hot.
>>
> Thanks for the reply - the connections on the timer relay seem fine. It
> ran normally for a few minutes this morning and the alternator remained
> cold. Then there was a very nasty crackle on the radio and the burning
> smell returned and alternator started to warm... so it sounds like
> something is shorting out at random intervals.
>
> Where do you start looking, for short like this?
>


Re: Xantia Alternator Smoking
#99646
Author: Duncanwood
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:47
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On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 21:22:27 -0000, John <bravo6@gofree.indigo.ie> wrote:

> Sounds like an internal short in the alternator. You'll have to replace
> it.
>
> John
>
>
> <xantia@invalid.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Nx$vH4BZHpgDFwFe@xtreme.pipex.net...
>> In message <dlti78$pqt$1@reader01.news.esat.net>, John
>> <bravo6@gofree.indigo.ie> writes
>>> There would need to be a fair current to cause the alternator to smoke.
>>> Apart from a short-circuit somewhere, the only other thing that would
>>> cause
>>> that would be glow plugs staying on. Check with a test light or
>>> multimeter
>>> to see if they're switching off. Check the connections on the timer
>>> relay
>>> to
>>> see if they look if they've got a bit hot.
>>>
>> Thanks for the reply - the connections on the timer relay seem fine. It
>> ran normally for a few minutes this morning and the alternator remained
>> cold. Then there was a very nasty crackle on the radio and the burning
>> smell returned and alternator started to warm... so it sounds like
>> something is shorting out at random intervals.
>>
>> Where do you start looking, for short like this?
>>
>
>

The main cable coming out of the alternator , then the alternator itself.
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