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12 total messages Started by jamesfenton21@ho Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:35
Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99511
Author: jamesfenton21@ho
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:35
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Well I travelled from Loughborough to Manchester last week, and after
seeking advice from Midland Mainline, I was assured that my ticket
would be valid by going to Leicester and then on the non-stop train to
Manchester (passing Loughborough at 100mph).

The guards on both legs were happy with my ticket, and when I
explained the predicament of zooming through Loughborough one
mentioned that he saw a fair few passengers travelling to/from
Loughborough on the services to Manchester.

On the outward leg, I also managed to get a First Class breakfast for
£15 as apparently there were no First Class customers at all from
Leicester!
Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99539
Author: "Roger T."
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:47
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"Oxford Blue"

> On the outward leg, I also managed to get a First Class breakfast for
> £15

Can$30.00 for breakfast???????

Jeez, I pay around Can$10.00 for two eggs, two bacon, two (thick) pancakes,
two sausages, toast (With jam/honey or peanut butter) and a bottomless cup
of coffee.  That's on a Sunday at a reasonable quality family restaurant.

Weekdays, the same meal costs around Can$5.00.


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Cheers
Roger T.

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Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99528
Author: Barry Salter
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 21:39
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On 11 Apr 2004 12:35:14 -0700, jamesfenton21@hotmail.com (Oxford Blue)
wrote:

>Well I travelled from Loughborough to Manchester last week, and after
>seeking advice from Midland Mainline, I was assured that my ticket
>would be valid by going to Leicester and then on the non-stop train to
>Manchester (passing Loughborough at 100mph).
>
>The guards on both legs were happy with my ticket, and when I
>explained the predicament of zooming through Loughborough one
>mentioned that he saw a fair few passengers travelling to/from
>Loughborough on the services to Manchester.

Whilst not Permitted as it involves doubling back and there's no
easement listed (so, in theory, you should do Loughborough -
Derby/Nottingham - Sheffield - Manchester), it's a perfectly reasonable
route, and it's good to see that MML actually agree on that, rather than
blindly applying the routeing guide rules.

Incidentally, the shortest route (at 84 miles 30 chains) is via Derby,
Stoke and Macclesfield.

Cya,

Barry

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Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99553
Author: "shaun"
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:35
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"Roger T." <rogertra@highspeedplus.com> wrote in message
news:4b886a191e85ffb52d83e85252afc4c6@grapevine.islandnet.com...
>
> "Oxford Blue"
>
> > On the outward leg, I also managed to get a First Class breakfast for
> > £15
>
> Can$30.00 for breakfast???????
>
> Jeez, I pay around Can$10.00 for two eggs, two bacon, two (thick)
pancakes,
> two sausages, toast (With jam/honey or peanut butter) and a bottomless cup
> of coffee.  That's on a Sunday at a reasonable quality family restaurant.

But does your family restaurant travel at 100mph?

;-)


Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99601
Author: frankie@t-bird.f
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:34
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> >
> > Can$30.00 for breakfast???????
> >
> > Jeez, I pay around Can$10.00 for two eggs, two bacon, two (thick)
>  pancakes,
> > two sausages, toast (With jam/honey or peanut butter) and a bottomless cup
> > of coffee.  That's on a Sunday at a reasonable quality family restaurant.
>
Welcome to rip off Britain - do you wonder that I think that the all
you can eat curry at C$19.50, beer on the handle and a St Helens PD2
outside the Empress in Victoria is a wonderful experience!

What price a 2005 Mustang over there? Even with the import and duty
costs it would make a nice, and cheap, change from all those crappy
Beamers and crappy drivers of Beamers over here!
Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99634
Author: "Clive D. W. Fea
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 17:38
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In article <5uaj70l2noihgmkgsubohagcp70g1bl2p9@4ax.com>, Barry Salter
<possspam@blackhole.southie.me.uk> writes
>Whilst not Permitted as it involves doubling back and there's no
>easement listed (so, in theory, you should do Loughborough -
>Derby/Nottingham - Sheffield - Manchester), it's a perfectly reasonable
>route, and it's good to see that MML actually agree on that, rather than
>blindly applying the routeing guide rules.

An operator is free [*] to accept tickets on non-Permitted Routes and,
as you say, it's good to see MML applying common-sense.

[*] Subject to the usual laws about things like race and sex
discrimination.

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Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99642
Author: Charlie Hulme
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:14
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Roger T. wrote:

> Can$30.00 for breakfast???????
>
> Jeez, I pay around Can$10.00 for two eggs, two bacon, two (thick) pancakes,
> two sausages, toast (With jam/honey or peanut butter) and a bottomless cup
> of coffee.  That's on a Sunday at a reasonable quality family restaurant.

For a more appropriate comparison, take a look at Via Rail's breakfast
menu on the 'Canadian' ...

Two Egg Breakfast: Two eggs any style with your choice of bacon, ham or
sausage and hashbrowns, toast or a muffin. Can$6.75

http://www.viarail.ca/menu_repas/en_index_frame.html

When can I go?

Charlie



Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99689
Author: Martin WY
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:28
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 18:14:52 +0100, Charlie Hulme
<charlie@dweb.u-net.com> wrote:

>Roger T. wrote:
>
>> Can$30.00 for breakfast???????
>>
>> Jeez, I pay around Can$10.00 for two eggs, two bacon, two (thick) pancakes,
>> two sausages, toast (With jam/honey or peanut butter) and a bottomless cup
>> of coffee.  That's on a Sunday at a reasonable quality family restaurant.
>
>For a more appropriate comparison, take a look at Via Rail's breakfast
>menu on the 'Canadian' ...
>
>Two Egg Breakfast: Two eggs any style with your choice of bacon, ham or
>sausage and hashbrowns, toast or a muffin. Can$6.75
>
>http://www.viarail.ca/menu_repas/en_index_frame.html
>
>When can I go?
>
>Charlie
>
As I was about to post!   Anyone can compare a rail meal with a local
cafe!  I can get a main meal of three slices thick lamb,  two kinds
potatoes, three veg and two yorkshire puddings for £4.50  but wouldnt
expect to pay so little on board a 1st class GneR Restaurant Car with
all their high running costs to take into consideration.

Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99733
Author: Graeme Wall
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:12
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In message <4b886a191e85ffb52d83e85252afc4c6@grapevine.islandnet.com>
          "Roger T." <rogertra@highspeedplus.com> wrote:

>
> "Oxford Blue"
>
> > On the outward leg, I also managed to get a First Class breakfast for
> > £15
>
> Can$30.00 for breakfast???????
>
> Jeez, I pay around Can$10.00 for two eggs, two bacon, two (thick) pancakes,
> two sausages, toast (With jam/honey or peanut butter) and a bottomless cup
> of coffee.  That's on a Sunday at a reasonable quality family restaurant.
>
> Weekdays, the same meal costs around Can$5.00.
>
>

You've been away a long time Roger


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This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
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Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99734
Author: Graeme Wall
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 08:15
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In message <P7Aec.1085$%86.791@newsfe2-gui.server.ntli.net>
          Charlie Hulme <charlie@dweb.u-net.com> wrote:

[snip]
>
> For a more appropriate comparison, take a look at Via Rail's breakfast
> menu on the 'Canadian' ...
>
> Two Egg Breakfast: Two eggs any style with your choice of bacon, ham or
> sausage and hashbrowns, toast or a muffin. Can$6.75
>
> http://www.viarail.ca/menu_repas/en_index_frame.html
>
> When can I go?
>

I reccommend it highly.

--
Graeme Wall
This address is not read, substitute trains for rail.
Transport Miscellany at <http://www.greywall.demon.co.uk/rail/index.html>
Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99861
Author: "Roger T."
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 11:14
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"Graeme Wall"

> You've been away a long time Roger

Obviously.  And with UK rail breakfasts running at Can$30 Vs around Can$6.00
on Via Rail Canada, can you see why?  And we have bottomless coffee cups.
Coffee, for example is around Can$1.25 to Can$2.00 for a bottomless cup of
coffee.  Soft drinks, around Can$2.50 to Can$3.00 for a bottomless glass.

The UK seems so very expensive.


--
Cheers
Roger T.

Home of the Great Eastern Railway
http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/


Re: Loughborough - Manchester is ok doubling back!
#99870
Author: "Stimpy"
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2004 19:48
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Roger T. wrote:
>
> Obviously.  And with UK rail breakfasts running at Can$30 Vs around
> Can$6.00 on Via Rail Canada, can you see why?  And we have bottomless
> coffee cups. Coffee, for example is around Can$1.25 to Can$2.00 for a
> bottomless cup of coffee.  Soft drinks, around Can$2.50 to Can$3.00
> for a bottomless glass.
>
> The UK seems so very expensive.

Yeah, one of the things we don't *often* get over here is free refills of
coffee and even less of soft drinks


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