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Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
> moderation queue.
>   http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>
> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App is
> working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>
> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
> moderation queue?
>

It could be a problem at Eternal September not sending articles to the
moderation address.

This news client is not so good as a tool to investigate such things but if
I wake up the big computer later I will see if the available data is
consistent with that hypothesis.

On 02/02/2025 14:25, Fredxx wrote:
> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
> moderation queue.
>    http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>
> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App is
> working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>
> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
> moderation queue?

I can confirm that no-one is on the banned / blacklisted poster list.

I can also confirm that I can see posts entering the moderation queue
and have just approved one immediately prior to posting this.

Please try and repost your earlier posts and I'll keep out an eye for
them in the moderation queue.

One thing to check is that I believe there can be an issue with posts
containing certain characters in the subject.  I recommend checking the
subject for strange characters before reposting.

Regards

S.P.

On 2/2/25 14:25, Fredxx wrote:
> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
> moderation queue.
>    http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>
> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App is
> working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>
> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
> moderation queue?

A message from me went missing at 11:04 this morning, using
eternal-september.

 From the status page, no posts were received between 19:5x yesterday
and 15:3x today. I would guess there was a problem.

<https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm>

"Owen Rees" <orees@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:vno9a1$pk6e$1@dont-email.me...
> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
>> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
>> moderation queue.
>>   http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>>
>> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App is
>> working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>>
>> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
>> moderation queue?
>>
>
> It could be a problem at Eternal September not sending articles to the
> moderation address.

It would appear to be.

I re-posted two posts originally sent via ES which had diasappered
via GigaNews which have both shown up more or less instantly in Recent
Activity and subsequently on the group.

bb

On Sun, 2 Feb 2025 21:22:06 -0000, "billy bookcase" <billy@onon.com>
wrote in <8hudnYXQiqpifAL6nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>:

>
>"Owen Rees" <orees@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:vno9a1$pk6e$1@dont-email.me...
>> Fredxx <fredxx@spam.invalid> wrote:
>>> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
>>> moderation queue.
>>>   http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>>>
>>> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App is
>>> working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>>>
>>> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
>>> moderation queue?
>>>
>>
>> It could be a problem at Eternal September not sending articles to the
>> moderation address.
>
>It would appear to be.
>
>I re-posted two posts originally sent via ES which had diasappered
>via GigaNews which have both shown up more or less instantly in Recent
>Activity and subsequently on the group.

A bit of searching on recent messages on ulm suggests that the most
recent one posted to eternal september is:

Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2025 10:18:17 +0000
Message-ID: <vnksd9$1ek4$1@dont-email.me>

I think we would usually expect to see more than that.

I have posted a message in eternal-september.support - there is usually
a quick response.

On 2/2/25 23:18, Owen Rees wrote:

>
> I have posted a message in eternal-september.support - there is usually
> a quick response.
>

Thanks Owen.

Pancho <Pancho.Jones@proton.me> wrote:
> On 2/2/25 23:18, Owen Rees wrote:
>
>>
>> I have posted a message in eternal-september.support - there is usually
>> a quick response.
>>
>
> Thanks Owen.
>

The problem has been fixed. Ray who run ES responded to my article saying
it was due to a DNS issue and some articles were stuck in a mail queue. The
messages have been sent so we have some duplicates.

On 02/02/2025 17:26, Simon Parker wrote:
> On 02/02/2025 14:25, Fredxx wrote:
>> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
>> moderation queue.
>>    http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>>
>> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App
>> is working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>>
>> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
>> moderation queue?
>
> I can confirm that no-one is on the banned / blacklisted poster list.
>
> I can also confirm that I can see posts entering the moderation queue
> and have just approved one immediately prior to posting this.
>
> Please try and repost your earlier posts and I'll keep out an eye for
> them in the moderation queue.
>
> One thing to check is that I believe there can be an issue with posts
> containing certain characters in the subject.  I recommend checking the
> subject for strange characters before reposting.
>
> Regards
>
> S.P.

Thanks Simon, it seems there was a blockage with Eternal September but
my posts now seemed to have got through.

On 02.02.2025 14:25 Uhr Fredxx wrote:

> I've sent two messages to ulm and they haven't even entered the
> moderation queue.
>    http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/ucgi/~webstump/l.ulm
>
> If this post shows up here then that does suggest my Thunderbird App
> is working and that ulm and it's system is broken.
>
> I doubt I'm the only one unless I'm now blacklisted from entering the
> moderation queue?

I such a case, always post the Message-ID of your message. I operate
one of the mail relays for moderation and I can then check if such a
message arrived and how it was processed.

You can contact me directly if you want to discuss that not publicly.

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Marco

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