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"Peter Ashby" <p.j.ashby@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio
> 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>
> I trust this link will be of use  ;
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/pip/s1d8d/

Where, of course, they completely failed to explain the rules, as I had
suspected. After all, they're obvious, aren't they?

Peter Ashby wrote...
>
>sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio 4
>listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>
What confusion? I thought people were clear about the rules.
--
Martin

On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:53:59 +0000, Martin Clark <martin@spl.at> wrote:

>Peter Ashby wrote...
>>
>>sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio 4
>>listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>>
>What confusion? I thought people were clear about the rules.

I believe that the *real* rules are only available on a 'need to know'
basis.

--
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Visio Utilities           http://www.visio-utilities.sandrila.co.uk/

Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
Paul Herber said ...
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 18:53:59 +0000, Martin Clark <martin@spl.at> wrote:
>
> >Peter Ashby wrote...
> >>
> >>sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio 4
> >>listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
> >>
> >What confusion? I thought people were clear about the rules.
>
> I believe that the *real* rules are only available on a 'need to know'
> basis.

I've never had any problems in not needing to know the rules.  It all
works quite well enough for me.  Rather like electrickery and the
tellingbone.
--
Fenny

PERGE SCELUS MIHI DIEM PERFICIAS

Martin Clark wrote:
> Peter Ashby wrote...
>>
>> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung
>> Radio 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>>
> What confusion? I thought people were clear about the rules.

Everyone but Humph.

--

SB

"Peter Ashby" <p.j.ashby@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio
> 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>
> I trust this link will be of use  ;
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/pip/s1d8d/
>

Why is this under "comedy"?  Sports, shirley.

Mornington Crescent has been thought a satire on games where players
congratulate themselves on their cleverness.

In turn, the players bid the name of a London Underground station
(chosen at random). Each bid is relished or rubbished by the other
players ("clever," "what a mistake," and so on). Eventually one player
brings the performance to a halt with a triumphant bid of "Mornington
Crescent."

Having said that, there appears to be a logic - sometimes.

It often seems that the underground station connections are above
ground, and - crucially - not below ground , i.e. the next named station
can be reached by e.g. a single bus route, but not by a train from that
station.

Of course this too could be complete rubbish, as could the game . . .

Steve Brooks wrote:
> Martin Clark wrote:
>
>>Peter Ashby wrote...
>>
>>>sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung
>>>Radio 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>>>
>>
>>What confusion? I thought people were clear about the rules.
>
>
> Everyone but Humph.
>

"Peter Ashby" <p.j.ashby@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:dpr8ev$5po$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
> Hi all,
>
> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio
> 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>
> I trust this link will be of use  ;
>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/pip/s1d8d/

It's good to have the rules explained so clearly, once and for all.

I particularly enjoyed the suggestion that MC could be played "as an
icebreaker at weddings or memorial services".


--
Best wishes,

Marjorie

Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
Marjorie Clarke said ...
>
> I particularly enjoyed the suggestion that MC could be played "as an
> icebreaker at weddings or memorial services".
>
If I do another course, I shall remember this for the case study that
requires description of a suitable icebreaker to start a training session.
--
Fenny

Willow:  I feel like a witch in a magic shop.

 "Marjorie Clarke" <dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> writes:
>"Peter Ashby" <p.j.ashby@btopenworld.com> wrote...
>> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio
>> 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>>
>> I trust this link will be of use  ;
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/pip/s1d8d/
>
>It's good to have the rules explained so clearly, once and for all.

i thought they were pretty thoroughly made clear a long time ago when
i used the "listen again" facility of the time[*] to produce a
transcript of the game in which humph had instructed the players to
explain the reasoning behind each move[**].

i posted the transcript.

somewhere or other.  it might even be in my filespace somewhere.

>I particularly enjoyed the suggestion that MC could be played "as an
>icebreaker at weddings or memorial services".

perfectly natural, surely?

[*] a magnetic tape, contained in a cassette thing
[**] istr we had two games, since willie was asked to start the first
game and said something like "my old grandpa used to say 'you can't go
far wrong in mornington crescent, if you start from <somewhere or
other>' " -- so, since he'd already played mc, the first game was
deemed complete and therefore humph asked for another game.
--
Robin Fairbairns, Cambridge

"Fenny" <umrat@onetel.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e2b8ecf2dea2a1698b138@news.individual.net...
> Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
> Marjorie Clarke said ...
>>
>> I particularly enjoyed the suggestion that MC could be played "as an
>> icebreaker at weddings or memorial services".
>>
> If I do another course, I shall remember this for the case study that
> requires description of a suitable icebreaker to start a training session.

Now you mention it, that's just the sort of stunt that some trainers like,
isn't it? Ask the participants to take part in an activity without making
the rules clear, and see how they sort it out for themselves. Participants
spend about 20 minutes arguing among themselves about what they're supposed
to be doing. Then you have a feedback session in which they all say how
cross they are at having wasted time in this way, and the trainer says how
valuable it is that they've gone through this experience together and
acknowledged these feelings, ... etc etc.

Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
heard of it.
--
Best wishes,

Marjorie

Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
Marjorie Clarke said ...
> Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
> participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
> heard of it.
>
I might try it with my Wednesday class at some point.  I doubt if any of
them have heard of R4.
--
Fenny

Gossip is when you hear something you like about someone you don't.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:38:33 -0000, "Marjorie Clarke"
<dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:

>
>Now you mention it, that's just the sort of stunt that some trainers like,
>isn't it? Ask the participants to take part in an activity without making
>the rules clear, and see how they sort it out for themselves. Participants
>spend about 20 minutes arguing among themselves about what they're supposed
>to be doing. Then you have a feedback session in which they all say how
>cross they are at having wasted time in this way, and the trainer says how
>valuable it is that they've gone through this experience together and
>acknowledged these feelings, ... etc etc.
>

Aaargghhh! Flashbacks!!

<draws deep breath>

Thank you, Marjorie, for reminding me why it's worth battling on
trying to establish myself as a bookseller, instead of getting a
proper job and earning some real money. Phew!


>Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
>participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
>heard of it.

Oh, I'm sure that would introduce a Very Valuable Conflict, or
something.

--
Cheers, Kimbo (Keeper of the Languid Wave (tm))
Best of umra archive www.totternhoe.demon.co.uk/umra/

www.bykimbo.com

"Kim Andrews" <somerat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:fkf4s1138q4evbl5adrivhs6og0ftijpu4@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:38:33 -0000, "Marjorie Clarke"
> <dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>Now you mention it, that's just the sort of stunt that some trainers like,
>>isn't it? Ask the participants to take part in an activity without making
>>the rules clear, and see how they sort it out for themselves. Participants
>>spend about 20 minutes arguing among themselves about what they're
>>supposed
>>to be doing. Then you have a feedback session in which they all say how
>>cross they are at having wasted time in this way, and the trainer says how
>>valuable it is that they've gone through this experience together and
>>acknowledged these feelings, ... etc etc.
>>
>
> Aaargghhh! Flashbacks!!
>
> <draws deep breath>
>
> Thank you, Marjorie, for reminding me why it's worth battling on
> trying to establish myself as a bookseller, instead of getting a
> proper job and earning some real money. Phew!

It also reminded me (as I wrote it) how lucky I am to be freelance and
almost retired, and in a position where I will never again be required to
either attend or run such training sessions. I have also worked as a
proofreader on training materials of this nature and had similar feelings.
>
>
>>Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
>>participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
>>heard of it.
>
> Oh, I'm sure that would introduce a Very Valuable Conflict, or
> something.

You're right - this would just exacerbate the inherent pointlessness of the
exercise, but it would give the trainer the opportunity to devise an
exercise like: "Tell the person next to you how you felt when you thought
other people had an advantage over you" or "Write down how you felt when you
discovered you were the only person ever to have heard of Mornington
Cresent". And so on.

In fact, I think there is a whole project here for someone: "The Mornington
Crescent Training Programme - a series of exercises for teams in the
workplace". I think I could write it - just don't ask me to deliver or
attend it.



--
Best wishes,

Marjorie

>> Thank you, Marjorie, for reminding me why it's worth battling on
>> trying to establish myself as a bookseller, instead of getting a
>> proper job and earning some real money. Phew!
>
> It also reminded me (as I wrote it) how lucky I am to be freelance and
> almost retired, and in a position where I will never again be required to
> either attend or run such training sessions. I have also worked as a
> proofreader on training materials of this nature and had similar feelings.

Quite. One of the greatest advantages of not being employed is not having to
attend this sort of thing any longer.

Anne B

In article <43c16fe0$0$63064$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>, Tony
Franks <tonyfranks6@hotmail.com> writes
>Mornington Crescent has been thought a satire on games where players
>congratulate themselves on their cleverness.
>
>In turn, the players bid the name of a London Underground station
>(chosen at random). Each bid is relished or rubbished by the other
>players ("clever," "what a mistake," and so on). Eventually one player
>brings the performance to a halt with a triumphant bid of "Mornington
>Crescent."

I'm afraid you've fallen for the standard line, put about by those who
can't rise to world class ranking.

>Having said that, there appears to be a logic - sometimes.

Naturally, Glasshopper.

>It often seems that the underground station connections are above
>ground, and - crucially - not below ground , i.e. the next named
>station can be reached by e.g. a single bus route, but not by a train
>from that station.

More study is clearly necessary - you have but scratched the service,
er, cancelled the 1728 from Victoria.

>Of course this too could be complete rubbish, as could the game . . .

Well it does have a certain noviciate ring to it.

I naturally hesitate before recommending Messrs. Cryer, Brooke-Taylor,
Garden & Lyttleton's offering, "The Little Book of Mornington
Crescent"[1], however it has some small merit. Whilst most experts
consider it pathetically wanting (er, wanton) as an introduction to the
actual game (as the authors would no doubt readily concede), it remains
notorious for the startling revelation of Dame Judi Dench's activities
in the Green Room at the Old Vic. (and for a far-too-small photo of Ms.
Dench in her younger days, evidently in the shortest of
mini-dresses[2]).

But I digress: put some study in young whippersnapper and over time you
may progress...

Regards,

Simonm.

[1] Orion Media, 2000, ISBN:0-75281-864-3
[2] Would that the image were not cropped so tightly, particularly at the lower
edge...
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On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:27:37 -0000, "Marjorie Clarke"
<dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:

>"Peter Ashby" <p.j.ashby@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>news:dpr8ev$5po$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung Radio
>> 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>>
>> I trust this link will be of use  ;
>>
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/pip/s1d8d/
>
>It's good to have the rules explained so clearly, once and for all.
>
>I particularly enjoyed the suggestion that MC could be played "as an
>icebreaker at weddings or memorial services".

On the tenuous link of "playing at ... services" can I bring to umrats'
attentions:
http://www.worthing.gov.uk/A-ZofServices/ServicesA-C/CemeteriesCrematoriums/PDFFile,19336,en.pdf"
which is a listing of the music available at Worthing Crematorium.

You can go out to a great range of music.  As well as the usual
suspects, I'm particularly tempted by:
The Drugs Don't Work
633 Squadron
and Lily the Pink ("up to heaven, her soul ascended, all the church
bells they did r-i-ing")
but I think it really has to be Leaning on a Lamp Post.

he-he, it's turned out dead again.
--
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(Waterways World site of the month, April 2001)

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 12:15:50 -0000, "Marjorie Clarke"
<dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"Kim Andrews" <somerat@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:fkf4s1138q4evbl5adrivhs6og0ftijpu4@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:38:33 -0000, "Marjorie Clarke"
>> <dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>Now you mention it, that's just the sort of stunt that some trainers like,
>>>isn't it? Ask the participants to take part in an activity without making
>>>the rules clear, and see how they sort it out for themselves. Participants
>>>spend about 20 minutes arguing among themselves about what they're
>>>supposed
>>>to be doing. Then you have a feedback session in which they all say how
>>>cross they are at having wasted time in this way, and the trainer says how
>>>valuable it is that they've gone through this experience together and
>>>acknowledged these feelings, ... etc etc.
>>>
>>
>> Aaargghhh! Flashbacks!!
>>
>> <draws deep breath>
>>
>> Thank you, Marjorie, for reminding me why it's worth battling on
>> trying to establish myself as a bookseller, instead of getting a
>> proper job and earning some real money. Phew!
>
>It also reminded me (as I wrote it) how lucky I am to be freelance and
>almost retired, and in a position where I will never again be required to
>either attend or run such training sessions. I have also worked as a
>proofreader on training materials of this nature and had similar feelings.
>>
>>
>>>Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
>>>participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
>>>heard of it.
>>
>> Oh, I'm sure that would introduce a Very Valuable Conflict, or
>> something.
>
>You're right - this would just exacerbate the inherent pointlessness of the
>exercise, but it would give the trainer the opportunity to devise an
>exercise like: "Tell the person next to you how you felt when you thought
>other people had an advantage over you" or "Write down how you felt when you
>discovered you were the only person ever to have heard of Mornington
>Cresent". And so on.
>
>In fact, I think there is a whole project here for someone: "The Mornington
>Crescent Training Programme - a series of exercises for teams in the
>workplace". I think I could write it - just don't ask me to deliver or
>attend it.

It's a pretty good working day.

9-10.   Divide into groups and write what you expect to get out of the
session on postits and stick them up.
10-10:30 One person from each group to present a summary of their groups
thoughts.
10:30 - 11:00 coffee
11:00 - 12:00 Morning Crescent Cognitive Dissociation Session
12:00 - 12:30 Trainer does "how valuable bit as above"
12:30 - 14:00 Lunch
14:00 - 15:00 Divide into groups and write what you've learned on
post-it notes and stick them on the wall
15:00 - 15:30 as 10-10:30
15:30 - 16:00 Trainer summarises what the spokespeople have said (if a
good trainer) or just what he thinks they would have said (if a typical
trainer).
16:00 Go home

You know, I can remember when at least you got a days work out of these
people.   Now you pay an expensive consultant to tell you why you are
bad and everybody else is good, and you have to do all the work
yourself.
--
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(Waterways World site of the month, April 2001)

"Nick Atty" <nospam@nandj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:8ge5s191fko1gtbiqk8kipjsua5ibeqpls@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 8 Jan 2006 20:27:37 -0000, "Marjorie Clarke"
> <dontusethisaddess@springequinox.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>"Peter Ashby" <p.j.ashby@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
>>news:dpr8ev$5po$1@nwrdmz01.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> sorry this is so off topic but there has been much confusion amoung
>>> Radio
>>> 4 listners about the rules for Mornington Crescent.
>>>
>>> I trust this link will be of use  ;
>>>
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/comedy/pip/s1d8d/
>>
>>It's good to have the rules explained so clearly, once and for all.
>>
>>I particularly enjoyed the suggestion that MC could be played "as an
>>icebreaker at weddings or memorial services".
>
> On the tenuous link of "playing at ... services" can I bring to umrats'
> attentions:
> http://www.worthing.gov.uk/A-ZofServices/ServicesA-C/CemeteriesCrematoriums/PDFFile,19336,en.pdf"
> which is a listing of the music available at Worthing Crematorium.
>
> You can go out to a great range of music.  As well as the usual
> suspects, I'm particularly tempted by:
> The Drugs Don't Work
> 633 Squadron
> and Lily the Pink ("up to heaven, her soul ascended, all the church
> bells they did r-i-ing")
> but I think it really has to be Leaning on a Lamp Post.

Very funny. Who were they kidding when they chose "I'm getting married in
the morning"?

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:46:12 -0000, Fenny <umrat@onetel.com> wrote:

>Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
>Marjorie Clarke said ...
>> Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
>> participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
>> heard of it.
>>
>I might try it with my Wednesday class at some point.  I doubt if any of
>them have heard of R4.

What do you teach?


--

Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
badriya said ...
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2006 10:46:12 -0000, Fenny <umrat@onetel.com> wrote:
>
> >Previously on Buffy the Vampire Slayer ^W^W^W^W uk.media.radio.archers,
> >Marjorie Clarke said ...
> >> Of course, you'd have to allow for the added complication that some of the
> >> participants would actually know all about MC and others would never have
> >> heard of it.
> >>
> >I might try it with my Wednesday class at some point.  I doubt if any of
> >them have heard of R4.
>
> What do you teach?
>
IT.  Currently to a small group of 14/15 yr olds one day a month.

--
Fenny

Aut id devorabis amabisque, aut cras prandebis... "You'll eat it and
like it, or have it for breakfast tomorrow"

>> On the tenuous link of "playing at ... services" can I bring to umrats'
>> attentions:
>> http://www.worthing.gov.uk/A-ZofServices/ServicesA-C/CemeteriesCrematoriums/PDFFile,19336,en.pdf"
>> which is a listing of the music available at Worthing Crematorium.
>>
>> You can go out to a great range of music.  As well as the usual
>> suspects, I'm particularly tempted by:
>> The Drugs Don't Work
>> 633 Squadron
>> and Lily the Pink ("up to heaven, her soul ascended, all the church
>> bells they did r-i-ing")
>> but I think it really has to be Leaning on a Lamp Post.
>
> Very funny. Who were they kidding when they chose "I'm getting married in
> the morning"?

The Nun?

Anne B

On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:16:07 +0000, Nick Atty
<nospam@nandj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
>On the tenuous link of "playing at ... services" can I bring to umrats'
>attentions:
>http://www.worthing.gov.uk/A-ZofServices/ServicesA-C/CemeteriesCrematoriums/PDFFile,19336,en.pdf"
>which is a listing of the music available at Worthing Crematorium.
>
>You can go out to a great range of music.  As well as the usual
>suspects, I'm particularly tempted by:
>The Drugs Don't Work
>633 Squadron
>and Lily the Pink ("up to heaven, her soul ascended, all the church
>bells they did r-i-ing")
>but I think it really has to be Leaning on a Lamp Post.
>
>he-he, it's turned out dead again.

I don't think 'A Perfect Day' really fits the bill.
Although, it might be suitable for some people I can think of.
--
Andy Minter

According to the opalescent prose of Andy Minter <anma@nildram.co.uk>
:

>On Mon, 09 Jan 2006 20:16:07 +0000, Nick Atty
><nospam@nandj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>On the tenuous link of "playing at ... services" can I bring to umrats'
>>attentions:
>>http://www.worthing.gov.uk/A-ZofServices/ServicesA-C/CemeteriesCrematoriums/PDFFile,19336,en.pdf"
>>which is a listing of the music available at Worthing Crematorium.
>>
>>You can go out to a great range of music.  As well as the usual
>>suspects, I'm particularly tempted by:
>>The Drugs Don't Work
>>633 Squadron
>>and Lily the Pink ("up to heaven, her soul ascended, all the church
>>bells they did r-i-ing")
>>but I think it really has to be Leaning on a Lamp Post.
>>
>>he-he, it's turned out dead again.
>
>I don't think 'A Perfect Day' really fits the bill.
>Although, it might be suitable for some people I can think of.

Sadly it's the Paul Robeson song (Well, this is the end of a perfect
day, Near the end of a journey, too; But it leaves a thought that is
big and strong, With a wish that is kind and true) rather than the Lou
Read paean to heroin.

Ernie, by Benny Hill, seems an odd choice, as does Those Magnificent
Men in their Flying Machines.

--
Stephen                     <http://wenlock.blogspot.com/>

Into my heart an air that kills from yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills, what spires, what farms are those?
That is the land of lost content, I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went and cannot come again.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:13:28 GMT, stephenbowden@yahoo.com (Stephen)
wrote:

>According to the opalescent prose of Andy Minter <anma@nildram.co.uk>
>:
>
>>
>>I don't think 'A Perfect Day' really fits the bill.
>>Although, it might be suitable for some people I can think of.
>
>Sadly it's the Paul Robeson song (Well, this is the end of a perfect
>day, Near the end of a journey, too; But it leaves a thought that is
>big and strong, With a wish that is kind and true) rather than the Lou
>Read paean to heroin.
>
>Ernie, by Benny Hill, seems an odd choice, as does Those Magnificent
>Men in their Flying Machines.

I was told today of a chap whose hobby is going round churches and
playing on their organs. (Britski - Don't say that please) Visiting
one church, he was asked if would play for a funeral that afternoon.
He did so and all went well until when he was playing some twiddly
bits as everyone was leaving,  there was some tittering from the
congregation. It turned out that the deceased was a well known local
butcher - and he was playing 'Sheep may safely graize'
--
Andy Minter

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 22:13:28 GMT, stephenbowden@yahoo.com (Stephen)
wrote:

>Ernie, by Benny Hill, seems an odd choice

Well it's about death.
--
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