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"Allan" <allan7@REMOVETHISlondonuk007.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> If I try and play an online game (BF1942) the PC freezes. This seems to
> indicate a heavy CPU load causes overheating and freezes the PC.
>
> I'm guessing I put too much paste on and instead of helping the heat reach
> the sink it's slowing it down or taking in too much heat itself? Not
enough
> heat is getting to the sink?
>

Boot to BIOS and go to Health Monitor. What is the temp telling you?

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> Last weekend I bought a new motherboard / CPU combo and I'd read that
> putting thermal paste between the CPU and heatsink was highly recommended
so
> I did that, too.
>
> ASUS A7N8X-E
> AMD 2600+ Barton with heatsink
> PSU is 400w (should be enough for a standard system?)
>
>
> Thermal Paste:
> "Artic Silver 5, High density polysynthetic silver thermal compound"
>
>
> Now the PC randomly resets itself, or it freeezes up requiring a manual
> reset and half the time internet access freezes for 30 seconds or so.

Firstly, before you take the heatsink off (which always carries a slight
risk) install the Asus Probe software from the CD. That'll tell you if the
CPU is running too hot. I suspect that it won't be - Athlons run reliably at
up to 90C.

I think you're mobo is faulty. This is the third time I've heard of this in
as many weeks. Last time I diagnosed this, some pesky electrolytic
capacitors had failed.

Let us know how hot the cpu is running.

Simon

> Firstly, before you take the heatsink off (which always carries a slight
> risk) install the Asus Probe software from the CD. That'll tell you if the
> CPU is running too hot. I suspect that it won't be - Athlons run reliably
at
> up to 90C.
>
> I think you're mobo is faulty. This is the third time I've heard of this
in
> as many weeks. Last time I diagnosed this, some pesky electrolytic
> capacitors had failed.
>
> Let us know how hot the cpu is running.
>
> Simon


The CPU is running at 43c so that's ok then. If it is the mobo how can I be
definately sure?

Allan

> The CPU is running at 43c so that's ok then. If it is the mobo how can I
be
> definately sure?
>
> Allan


Another oddity is that under control panel/system/device manger/other
devices it lists the following as having no drivers

? System management bus
? Multimedia audio device
? Multimedia audio device
? Ethernet controller
? Raid controller

I don't have raid and the sound works fine. Not sure what ethernet is but if
it's missing a system managment bus driver then could that cause problems?
I've tried installing a driver from the mobo CD and Win98 CD bus it couldn't
find one.

I may have to take it back. I bought it from Ambros Direct at the Tottenham
Court Road computer fair where they've had a stand for years - anyone had
any adverse experiences of returning faulty goods to them?

Allan

> > Let us know how hot the cpu is running.
>
> The CPU is running at 43c so that's ok then. If it is the mobo how can I
be
> definately sure?

Swap the motherboard. I'm betting it's a dodgy northbridge or voltage
regulator. Do you have someone friendly near you to swap components with?

Simon

"Allan" <allan7@REMOVETHISlondonuk007.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > The CPU is running at 43c so that's ok then. If it is the mobo how can I
> be
> > definately sure?
> >
> > Allan
>
>
> Another oddity is that under control panel/system/device manger/other
> devices it lists the following as having no drivers
>
> ? System management bus
> ? Multimedia audio device
> ? Multimedia audio device
> ? Ethernet controller
> ? Raid controller

Have you loaded the nvidia drivers from here
http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp

You want; Platform / nforce drivers, Unified driver, choose your os.

HTH

--
Ian

> Swap the motherboard. I'm betting it's a dodgy northbridge or voltage
> regulator. Do you have someone friendly near you to swap components with?
>
> Simon


Sadly no, but if loading up to date drivers, as the next poster suggests,
doesn't work then I'll just take it back for a swap.

Thanks  :-)

Allan

> Have you loaded the nvidia drivers from here
> http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
>
> You want; Platform / nforce drivers, Unified driver, choose your os.
>
> HTH
>
> --
> Ian


I installed the drivers that came with the mobo but I'll try these as well.
I'll let you know if it helps.

Cheers!

Allan

"Allan" <allan7@REMOVETHISlondonuk007.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Now the PC randomly resets itself, or it freeezes up requiring a manual
> reset and half the time internet access freezes for 30 seconds or so. For
> example, I click on Internet Explorer and it will start up with a totally
> blank page, nothing. Then after about 30 seconds or so the home page will
> load. The same with clicking on a link, I'll click, wait then eventually
it
> will load the page. The mouse doesn't slow down or freeze and other PC
> functions work as normal, it's just internet access.
>
> If I try and play an online game (BF1942) the PC freezes. This seems to
> indicate a heavy CPU load causes overheating and freezes the PC.

Some possible causes

PSU - low wattage or poor quality voltage regulation
CPU - I had a problem recently with a 2800 barton whereby things went slow
and weird, reboots and bluescreens etc.
Memory - is the memory up to the speeds you have set? Try running memory
timings by SPD. Try also using Memtest86 although note this can say there
are memory errors when it's the CPU as in my experience recently with my
CPU, I went and bought some expensive Corsair RAM only to find out it was
the CPU :-(
Motherboard.

> I installed the drivers that came with the mobo but I'll try these as
well.
> I'll let you know if it helps.
>
> Cheers!
>
> Allan


7 hours later......

No it bloody didn't! lol!

It was like a game of Buckaroo - I tried to install those drivers and all
hell broke loose. BSODs, crashes, "couldn't find file on win98 disk", etc.
Not only that but my internet connections stopped transmitting/receiving
data - I could connect but could do anything.

I've finally given up and done a complete reinstall of windows after saving
stuff to partition D. I'm not going to bother installing mobo drivers. Let's
see what fun and games happens now......


Allan

In article <4037273a$0$24601$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk>, allan7
@REMOVETHISlondonuk007.freeserve.co.uk says...

> If I take the sink off, clear off all paste and start again with a thin film
> of paste would this help or have I described symptoms of another problem?
> I'm waiting until I can afford to go straight out and buy a new CPU/HS just
> in case I mess up on this repair!
>
Too much thermal paste acts as an insulator. You need a very thin film.

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Conor <conor_turton@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4037273a$0$24601$fa0fcedb@lovejoy.zen.co.uk>, allan7
> @REMOVETHISlondonuk007.freeserve.co.uk says...
>
> > If I take the sink off, clear off all paste and start again with a thin
film
> > of paste would this help or have I described symptoms of another
problem?
> > I'm waiting until I can afford to go straight out and buy a new CPU/HS
just
> > in case I mess up on this repair!
> >
> Too much thermal paste acts as an insulator. You need a very thin film.

I just bunged some on a chip the other day with the back of a knife, not a
massive amount but not as thin as possible. I later took the HS off and put
on a thin layer with a razor blade and there's bugger all difference. Are we
talking half a syringe full to bugger things up?