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e904952p@hjc wrote:

> Hi! I am a high school student fascinated by the phenomena of life. I've
> just discovered the wonder of Usenet so I've been posted a lot recently.
> One thing I want to ask is that what exactly happens when life leaves a
> living organism. Physically I don't see anything much has happened. We
> still got roughly, if not exactly, the same amount of matter there, but
> still something must have happened, since it's now dead!
> So what is it?
> If we consider life as an open system could we say that it's gone though
> bifurcation and has 'jumped' to another state which is commonly called
> 'death'?
> Life is certainly a strange phenomena. If we construct a system and throw
> in some nutrients and a living organism, some time later we find two
> organisms in the system. But if we throw in a DEAD organism, nothing will
> happen no matter how long we wait.
> Isn't it kind of odd?

I see this as a philosophical question, which will not find many
satisfying responses in this newsgroup as this is mostly a scientific
forum.  Scientific views of life can be called mechanistic which says that
living things are merely a more complex arrangement of matter than
non-living things.  A vitalist view holds that living things are of a
different quality than non-living things.  I think that your answer lies
in the latter which, however, is not the scientific view.

--
Bill Taylor, Bill@innocent.com

It was said by William A Taylor that
>
>e904952p@hjc wrote:
>
>> Hi! I am a high school student fascinated by the phenomena of life. I've
>> just discovered the wonder of Usenet so I've been posted a lot recently.
>> One thing I want to ask is that what exactly happens when life leaves a
>> living organism. Physically I don't see anything much has happened. We
>> still got roughly, if not exactly, the same amount of matter there, but
>> still something must have happened, since it's now dead!
>> So what is it?
>> If we consider life as an open system could we say that it's gone though
>> bifurcation and has 'jumped' to another state which is commonly called
>> 'death'?
>> Life is certainly a strange phenomena. If we construct a system and throw
>> in some nutrients and a living organism, some time later we find two
>> organisms in the system. But if we throw in a DEAD organism, nothing will
>> happen no matter how long we wait.
>> Isn't it kind of odd?
>
>I see this as a philosophical question, which will not find many
>satisfying responses in this newsgroup as this is mostly a scientific
>forum.  Scientific views of life can be called mechanistic which says that
>living things are merely a more complex arrangement of matter than
>non-living things.  A vitalist view holds that living things are of a
>different quality than non-living things.  I think that your answer lies
>in the latter which, however, is not the scientific view.


"This" may be a scientific forum to you, but because of the uninhibited
way the original poster has spammed the newsgroups, he has also hit a
completely unscientific wibble group. We shall see what eventuates.
Myself, I think it depends how many empties you have lined up when you
reply. Sober, I am scientific. A few beers, and I begin to marvel at
Life. A few more, and it can't *just* be the chemicals, can it? Just
before unconsciousness, vitalism appears to be the prefiect, and
obviousm, answer to it all.

Alec

William A Taylor wrote


>
>e904952p@hjc wrote:
>
>> Hi! I am a high school student fascinated by the phenomena of life.
[etc
>> Isn't it kind of odd?
>
>I see this as a philosophical question, which will not find many
>satisfying responses in this newsgroup as this is mostly a scientific
>forum.

Unlike this one which is a wibble forum.

--
Richard - Whose nice comfy chair by the fire has a new squeak !

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In article <NWPqgFAsE8azEwk1@cawley.demon.co.uk>, Alec Cawley
<alec@cawley.demon.co.uk> writes
>
>"This" may be a scientific forum to you, but because of the uninhibited
>way the original poster has spammed the newsgroups, he has also hit a
>completely unscientific wibble group.

Alec!  Hi! Hugs to all in alue.
--
Sherilyn

Alec Cawley (alec@cawley.demon.co.uk) wrote:
> It was said by William A Taylor that
> >e904952p@hjc wrote:
> >
> >> Hi! I am a high school student fascinated by the phenomena of life. I've
> >
> >I see this as a philosophical question, which will not find many

Not a homework question?

> >satisfying responses in this newsgroup as this is mostly a scientific
> >forum.  Scientific views of life can be called mechanistic which says that
>
Or not...
>
> "This" may be a scientific forum to you, but because of the uninhibited
> way the original poster has spammed the newsgroups, he has also hit a
> completely unscientific wibble group. We shall see what eventuates.

You're talking about SeKS again aren't you :)

Followup-To: alt.life.universe.everything

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everyone you know, only more so.