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Started by "Troosvelt"
Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:42
Empty Americas
Author: "Troosvelt"
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:42
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:42
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I expect this has been done before but it's an interesting idea. POD: Although people frequently refer to the crossing of the land bridge as a fluid process it was actually quite gradual. Best evidence is that people gathered on the Bering Plain and remained there until flooding forced them out. The movement to the Americas was because the flooding first cut off the route back to Asia. So what if the flooding was the other way around. The route to the Americas is cut and 90% or more of those in the plain head back to Asia. There would certainly be some who moved into the Americas, but not nearly as many as IOTL. So the Americas are basically uninhabited when Europe arrives.
Re: Empty Americas
Author: "Kaiser Wilhelm
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:37
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:37
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"Troosvelt" <troosvelt@comcast.net> wrote in message news:0dadnUf2afdXc4TdRVn-gQ@comcast.com... > I expect this has been done before but it's an interesting idea. > > POD: Although people frequently refer to the crossing of the land bridge as > a fluid process it was actually quite gradual. Best evidence is that people > gathered on the Bering Plain and remained there until flooding forced them > out. I'd refer you to Doug Hoff's excellent "Empty America" TL, part 10a of which has just been posted. > The movement to the Americas was because the flooding first cut off the > route back to Asia. > > So what if the flooding was the other way around. The route to the Americas > is cut and 90% or more of those in the plain head back to Asia. > > There would certainly be some who moved into the Americas, but not nearly as > many as IOTL. > > So the Americas are basically uninhabited when Europe arrives. If there's any people here at all, natural increase would have filled up the Americas within the 12,000 years or so required. It might take longer, but it would still happen. Even if we posit a net population increase of 0.1% a year (in practice, 1% should be quite doable, and even 3% a year possible)), that would turn an initial population of even 100 people into over 16 million people within the time frame, and thus a reasonably well-inhabited America. If the Americas are, in fact, uninhabited, then you get the Vikings shipping mammoths and mastodons back to Europe, and all the other fun stuff in Doug's Empty America TL. Cheers, Kaiser Wilhelm III
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