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: In article <sa8aeg9f9gt105@corp.supernews.com>,
: > :
: > : Even if that was true, the Russians would still be doing one better
: > : than the Yanks, who everybody hates without exception.
LIE DETECTOR� (lie_detector@my-deja.com) wrote:

: How do you explain that the multi-cultural US has large communities
: from every country in the world including Russia, can the same be said
: of Russia? No I thought not, masses of people from the East always want
: to live in the West, but very few from the West want to live in the
: East..I wonder why?

Eh, could it be because life in the West is better? If anything it's
just an extra reason to hate the Yanks, as if all other reasons
wouldn't do already.

I.

Igor V Litvinyuk wrote:

> Eh, could it be because life in the West is better? If anything it's
> just an extra reason to hate the Yanks, as if all other reasons
> wouldn't do already.

There you go. If you can't beat them, hate them. That'll show them.




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Support freedom of speech, or I'll kill you!

Yes. True looser mentality. Well if they are happier, then hate them. Can
you guys be so stupidly jealous. You epitomize the entire Russo-Serbian
problem. Backward jealous mentality. Instead of praising hardwork, you
make-fun of it then whine how poor you are.

--
Zvonimir Siljkovic
Stanciceva 11
3 Kat
Zagreb Medvescak 10000
hussar1@msn.com


"Igor V Litvinyuk" <ivl@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:881k0d$j3i$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
> : In article <sa8aeg9f9gt105@corp.supernews.com>,
> : > :
> : > : Even if that was true, the Russians would still be doing one better
> : > : than the Yanks, who everybody hates without exception.
> LIE DETECTORT (lie_detector@my-deja.com) wrote:
>
> : How do you explain that the multi-cultural US has large communities
> : from every country in the world including Russia, can the same be said
> : of Russia? No I thought not, masses of people from the East always want
> : to live in the West, but very few from the West want to live in the
> : East..I wonder why?
>
> Eh, could it be because life in the West is better? If anything it's
> just an extra reason to hate the Yanks, as if all other reasons
> wouldn't do already.
>
> I.
>

Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
: Yes. True looser mentality. Well if they are happier, then hate them. Can
: you guys be so stupidly jealous. You epitomize the entire Russo-Serbian
: problem. Backward jealous mentality. Instead of praising hardwork, you
: make-fun of it then whine how poor you are.

As I said, not only Russians and Serbs hate them, everyone does. Get your
head out of your ass and look around. Them being "happier" has very
little to do with that sentiment. Being stupid and arrogant is more
like it. Japanese, Germans or Canadians are no less hard-working than the
Yanks, and nobody hates them. Why is that?

I.

You don't see Japs, Canadians or Germans hating Yanks, do you! see Yanks
under German command, Canadians sitting side by side with Yanks in Norad.
But Russians. No one sits by you. No one wants to be under your command or
share a military alliance. Where do you come up with this hate! You don't
see Germans driving Russian shit, do you. Nope, they are more then happy to
is Pizza Hut Pizza, drink coke, and drive a Chrysler mini-van. The only
thing they want to drive that is Russian are your immigrant and Mafioso's
back to mother poor Russia. Like I said a poverty lazy jealous Serb-Russian
delusions. Keep it up! You might qualify for economic aid they give to third
world nations!

--
Zvonimir Siljkovic
Stanciceva 11
3 Kat
Zagreb Medvescak 10000
hussar1@msn.com


"Igor V Litvinyuk" <ivl@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:881nf9$j3i$2@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
> Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> : Yes. True looser mentality. Well if they are happier, then hate them.
Can
> : you guys be so stupidly jealous. You epitomize the entire Russo-Serbian
> : problem. Backward jealous mentality. Instead of praising hardwork, you
> : make-fun of it then whine how poor you are.
>
> As I said, not only Russians and Serbs hate them, everyone does. Get your
> head out of your ass and look around. Them being "happier" has very
> little to do with that sentiment. Being stupid and arrogant is more
> like it. Japanese, Germans or Canadians are no less hard-working than the
> Yanks, and nobody hates them. Why is that?
>
> I.
>
>

Zvonimir Siljkovic wrote in message ...

[snip]

>Keep it up! You might qualify for economic aid they give to third
>world nations!
>



Siljkovic, there is no need for this. You are utterly wrong and
narrow-sighted.  Both Russia and our own country suffered
the worst experiment in the history of mankind - communism.
By your logic Croatia is a 3rd world nation as well.

If it weren't for communism, be sure that the things would be much,
much different now. Unfortunately, some countries embraced
communism in 1918, and some, luckily, avoided it. No one
could have known back then how flawed communism really was.

The same holds for China. Look at just this small handfull of
chinese people on the island of Taipei who managed to escape
communism - they have 80% of all the PC hardware
manufacturing in the world. Now imagine the WHOLE China
avoiding communism - can you depict 1500 cities like Hong
Kong all over China? Can you imagine this immense power.

The same holds for Russia, eastern Germany, and
the whole eastern Europe. (I don't know what will happen with
China though, since they seem not to be in the mood of abandoning
communism at all.)

The whole area, including Russia, is going through transitional
pains, and I propose to keep our voices down.

-s

Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
: You don't see Japs, Canadians or Germans hating Yanks, do you! see Yanks
: under German command, Canadians sitting side by side with Yanks in Norad.

Yes,  I do, most every day. Canadians can't stand the pricks, never mind
what their government is doing. But who can blame them, everyone,
including their closest NATO allies, hates the bastards' guts.

I.

Growing pains. You call Putin and Chechnya and Kosovo and Slobo growing
pains. Please, its a historical inevitability. I don't see how communism and
czarist Russia is any different. Or how Royal Yugoslavia or Communist
Yugoslavia and modern day Serbia  is any different. Its their nature. They
are behaving as they have always behaved. I don't blame "communism." You
don't see other former communist nations doing the same shit! Its in their
nature. They did the same thing before communisms and during communisms and
low and behold after communism. To me that is no excuse!

--
Zvonimir Siljkovic
Stanciceva 11
3 Kat
Zagreb Medvescak 10000
hussar1@msn.com


"

Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are talking
about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet one that
hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On the other,
they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your Ruskies and
Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!

--
Zvonimir Siljkovic
Stanciceva 11
3 Kat
Zagreb Medvescak 10000
hussar1@msn.com


"Igor V Litvinyuk" <ivl@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:8821el$rtq$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
> Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> : You don't see Japs, Canadians or Germans hating Yanks, do you! see Yanks
> : under German command, Canadians sitting side by side with Yanks in
Norad.
>
> Yes,  I do, most every day. Canadians can't stand the pricks, never mind
> what their government is doing. But who can blame them, everyone,
> including their closest NATO allies, hates the bastards' guts.
>
> I.
>

LIE DETECTOR� wrote in message <881ec5$faf$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>In article <sa8aeg9f9gt105@corp.supernews.com>,
>  echao@interaccess.com wrote:
>> Igor V Litvinyuk (ivl@interchange.ubc.ca) wrote:
>> : Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
>> : : Other then Serbs, who loves Russians. And why does almost all of
>Europe hate
>> : : Russians, even their former allies?
>> :
>> : Even if that was true, the Russians would still be doing one better
>> : than the Yanks, who everybody hates without exception.
>
>How do you explain that the multi-cultural US has large communities
>from every country in the world including Russia, can the same be said
>of Russia? No I thought not, masses of people from the East always want
>to live in the West, but very few from the West want to live in the
>East..I wonder why?


That is a good question that begs an answer. I also like to know how  come
more than a million Russians including Nikita Kruschev's own son have
immigrated to United States, in a space of 3-4 years, and only a handful of
Americans have chosen to reside in Russia temporarily.
One town, Brighton Beach, NY, has   about a quarter million Russians!

>>   Excepting of course, a modern and sophisticated
>>   Denmark, which inexplicably celebrates the AMERICAN[tm]
>>   holiday of the Fourth of July.
>>
>> :
>> : I.
>> :
>>
>
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May I add that 30,000 Canadians volunteered for Unted States army to fight
in Vietnam,  about 1,600 of them were killed, many received decorations for
bravery under fire. If Canadians hated Americans they would certainly not
have volunteered for Vietnam. How many Hungarians volunteered to fight in
the Russian army in Chechnya?

Zvonimir Siljkovic wrote in message ...
>Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are talking
>about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet one that
>hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On the other,
>they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your Ruskies and
>Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!
>
>--
>Zvonimir Siljkovic
>Stanciceva 11
>3 Kat
>Zagreb Medvescak 10000
>hussar1@msn.com
>
>
>"Igor V Litvinyuk" <ivl@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
>news:8821el$rtq$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
>> Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
>> : You don't see Japs, Canadians or Germans hating Yanks, do you! see
Yanks
>> : under German command, Canadians sitting side by side with Yanks in
>Norad.
>>
>> Yes,  I do, most every day. Canadians can't stand the pricks, never mind
>> what their government is doing. But who can blame them, everyone,
>> including their closest NATO allies, hates the bastards' guts.
>>
>> I.
>>
>
>

AND WHAT IS  YOUR PRICE, SHITHEAD? ONE RUBLE?

firefly wrote in message ...
>Every the mentionned ally of the Us are like the prostitute, they will sell
>them self for $1, they are so cheep!!!!!Prostitu has more pride like the
>NATO countries leaders!!!!!
>
>

You sure I stupid! Japan. Philipines, Panama    are just some of the
greatest friends of United States! All of them have helped United States
whenever help was needed. How many Hungarians volunteered for the Russian
army to fight in Chechnya?


firefly wrote in message ...
>Sure you  don't see, the Japs only yelling "Yankee Go Home" you don't see
>the S.Korean, but they do the same yelling "Yankee Go Home" the Pananama
>people  throw them out, the Philiphine  people throw them out, now the
>Puerto-Ricans don't want the either.
>
>

Igor V Litvinyuk wrote in message <882hta$8du$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca>...
>Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
>: Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are
talking
>: about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet one
that
>: hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On the
other,
>: they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your Ruskies
and
>: Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!
>
>What a silly ignorant moron you are. If you left your village once in
>a while you would know that nobody in the world likes Americans.
>Except for you, pathetic little weasel, but that doesn't count for much.

What crap atre you spewing, idiot? Have you ever been to Brioghton Beach NY/
Quarter million Russians have immigrated there in the past few years. Have
you been to South Beach Miami? Second language here is not Spanish it is
Russian?

If Russians hated America so much they would not be immigrating here, would
they? You know who just became a citizen of United States? Son of Nikita
Kruschev!

Ho many Hungarians immigrated to your fucking Russia?

In article <sa8aeg9f9gt105@corp.supernews.com>,
  echao@interaccess.com wrote:
> Igor V Litvinyuk (ivl@interchange.ubc.ca) wrote:
> : Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> : : Other then Serbs, who loves Russians. And why does almost all of
Europe hate
> : : Russians, even their former allies?
> :
> : Even if that was true, the Russians would still be doing one better
> : than the Yanks, who everybody hates without exception.

How do you explain that the multi-cultural US has large communities
from every country in the world including Russia, can the same be said
of Russia? No I thought not, masses of people from the East always want
to live in the West, but very few from the West want to live in the
East..I wonder why?
>
>   Excepting of course, a modern and sophisticated
>   Denmark, which inexplicably celebrates the AMERICAN[tm]
>   holiday of the Fourth of July.
>
> :
> : I.
> :
>

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Dude, you still trademark word "American".
You're just as fucked as you were a year ago.

Eisen Chao wrote:

>   Excepting of course, a modern and sophisticated
>   Denmark, which inexplicably celebrates the AMERICAN[tm]
>   holiday of the Fourth of July.
>
> :
> : I.
> :

cabal

The diference between you and me it is, I have all the money what I need,
there are no money what can buy me.You are all the one who is for sale.

cabal

Russia don't need Hungarians, why they will let them in, they are the enemy
of the Russia people.Nikita he will sell his own mother, for the money what
the US pay him, If the China give him a more money , he will be a Chinese
citizen too!! He sing the song, "my believes are in the money"!,with the
money I get honey........babe you are mine like the money.

cabal

Don't advertise your stupidity.Panama. US occupy by force, Japanm US poccupy
by force,Philipines they aree happy the US is gone,Panama they are happy too
because the Us is gone,US don't have a friend, they have a "Forced"
friend.If the US can't occupy the country with the peace, they will occupy
by the force, like now the Kosovo.So much for your friends.Why the Hungarien
will fight with the Russian, they always were the enemy of the Russia,they
were the big ally of the NAZI Hitler during the WWII and now they are the
big ally of the New NAZI!!!!!!

For your information the  99% of Russian immigrant are Jews.

It is like the joke, 9 yers nobodty in the US know where is Serbia, finally
the time was comming to expend the nATO organization, the US start
propaganda against the Yougoslavia becaus4e3 it was the big coy\untry what
the US was worry they will not want to jpint peacefully the NATO.It was the
US who start the wear in Yougoslavia, how they can pccupy the balkans, only
with the war.more about the war against the Yougoslavia you will find on
usia.gov whitehouse.gov or mill.gov and the UN.......

Zvonimir


Go to Okinawa ask the Japanise there if they like the Yankee, go to Soul in
S.Korea ask the Korean people if they like the Yanks, ask the reall Germans
if they like the Yanks they occupy the japan they occupy the S,.Korea they
occupy the Germans, if they go against the Yanks they will bomb them to the
stone age like they did to Serbs.Yanks buy the leader, they don't gave a
democratic ellection, they have the Yanks ellection, they buy the vote they
buy the leader.If the people choose theynown like in the Austria, you see
what the Yanks did protest against the ellected leadr, if they can't get him
with the money they will try to rid of him!!!! one way or onather!!!!!

Igor V Litvinyuk (ivl@interchange.ubc.ca) wrote:
:
: As I said, not only Russians and Serbs hate them, everyone does.

  Except for the Danes who celebrate the glorious 4th of July,
  the founding of AMERICA[tm].

  Oh yeah, and also Taiwan in which there was a popular
  movement to become the 51st State in the Union.

  Sorry Taiwan, but I believe that Puerto Rico, Canada,
  and the U,K, are ahead of you in line....

: Get your head out of your ass and look around. Them being
: "happier" has very little to do with that sentiment.

  But at least you can breathe easier, as well as being
  able to look around.

: Being stupid and arrogant is more like it.

  Reserved and sparing of words..... supremely self-confident
  are the phrases I would use instead.

: Japanese, Germans or Canadians are no less hard-working than the
: Yanks, and nobody hates them. Why is that?

  Because they are pathetic and losers, that's why.

  Japan has a higher suicide rate than the US because
  people feel shamed at being unemployed. In AMERICA[tm]
  we would just roll with the punches, put on out suit and
  tie and go out to face the World. 'Tommorow is another
  day'. Plus they live like a bunch of penned up rabbits in
  their midget-sized apartments. Worse of all, the social
  contract of life-long employment is largely null and void,
  companies can't afford to pay for workers rendered excess
  baggage due to advances in computers and communications.

  Germans. Nobody looks up to them they because they haven't
  done anythinhg worthy of respect (and thus envy/jealousy)
  as of late.

  As usual all the really cool things are being done by
  Yanks and surprisingly Finns or anybody else not from
  the traditional Western developed nations.

  As for our beloved Canucks:

  Canadians are merely second-class AMERICANS[tm], who have
  to constantly make excuses why they are different that we,
  the *real* AMERICANS[tm]. Now _THAT'S_ pathetic.



: I.
:
:

Igor V Litvinyuk (ivl@interchange.ubc.ca) wrote:
: Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
: : You don't see Japs, Canadians or Germans hating Yanks, do you! see Yanks
: : under German command, Canadians sitting side by side with Yanks in Norad.
:
: Yes,  I do, most every day. Canadians can't stand the pricks,

  Jealousy. Our Dollar is worth almost twice theirs.

  They have been reduced to the state of an albino
  Mexico, a frigid, northern Tijuana for our tourist
  curiosity and amusement.

: never mind what their government is doing. But who can blame
: them, everyone, including their closest NATO allies, hates
: the bastards' guts.

:
: I.
:

Sinisa Kolaric (nospam_sinisa.kolaric@vz.tel.hr) wrote:
:
: By your logic Croatia is a 3rd world nation as well.
:
: If it weren't for communism, be sure that the things would be much,
: much different now. Unfortunately, some countries embraced
: communism in 1918, and some, luckily, avoided it. No one
: could have known back then how flawed communism really was.
:
: The same holds for China. Look at just this small handfull of
: chinese people on the island of Taipei who managed to escape
: communism - they have 80% of all the PC hardware
: manufacturing in the world. Now imagine the WHOLE China
: avoiding communism - can you depict 1500 cities like Hong
: Kong all over China?

  Wouldn't happen under normal circumstances.

  China is like Russia: A long history of a centralized
  Govt, trying to desperately control a vast country with
  all sorts of centripedal forces tearing it apart at the
  same time.

  To keep this from happening, you have to squelch
  the periphery and potential rivals to benefit
  the 'Center'.

  But as we live in the Century of the Internet, where
  borders and geography don't count as much, who knows
  whats gonna happen ?

: Can you imagine this immense power.

  Taiwan is different in that it has always had an exposure
  and connection to the outside (Dutch, Portuguese, japanese)
  unlike the interior.

  Plus, Taiwan has had the protection and sponsership
  of the U.S., which goes a long way in nation-building.

: The same holds for Russia, eastern Germany, and
: the whole eastern Europe.

  Not necessarily true.

  Russia has had autocratic rule and no tradition
  of liberal democracy, the renaisance or the Age of
  Enlightenment during its 1,000+ years history.

  Thus it does not have deep roots in the institutions
  we take for granted in the West.

  The Communists were merely the latest in a long
  line of despotic 'asiatic' rulers.

  Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary, OTOH have
  fluctuated and certainly have had more cultural exposure
  to the West. This I think, explains why Poland is
  doing so well as is Hungary.

: (I don't know what will happen with
: China though, since they seem not to be in the mood of abandoning
: communism at all.)

  The interior will be split into wealthy coastal areas which
  embrace capitalism and a poor, more ideologialy rigid
  interior. The makings of a regional split and a potential
  collapse of society. This has always happened and the
  communist to their credit have at least stabilized things.

  But they do it the same why centalized govts in China
  have always done it: Iron-handed Rule.

: The whole area, including Russia, is going through transitional
: pains, and I propose to keep our voices down.

  It has been argued that Russia will never truly be
  a 'Western' nation and that attempts to train the
  Bear to wear a tux and top hat are doomed to failure.

  OTOH, there have been periods where Russia has had
  periods of Western orientation (e.g. Peter the Great),
  so who are we to say ?

  But Russia as in many ancient nations, history has a
  terrible weight and inertia, so I for one am not
  too optimistic.

  P.S. Yeltsin & his cabinet got good marks for
       improving the economy and finances, so
       here's hopeing!

: -s

Every the mentionned ally of the Us are like the prostitute, they will sell
them self for $1, they are so cheep!!!!!Prostitu has more pride like the
NATO countries leaders!!!!!

Sure you  don't see, the Japs only yelling "Yankee Go Home" you don't see
the S.Korean, but they do the same yelling "Yankee Go Home" the Pananama
people  throw them out, the Philiphine  people throw them out, now the
Puerto-Ricans don't want the either.

Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
: Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are talking
: about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet one that
: hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On the other,
: they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your Ruskies and
: Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!

What a silly ignorant moron you are. If you left your village once in
a while you would know that nobody in the world likes Americans.
Except for you, pathetic little weasel, but that doesn't count for much.
Even Americans themselves know that very well, that's why they
often pretend to be Canadian while traveling abroad to make sure that
a waiter wouldn't spit in their soup. But it's easier said than done,
since they reek of their redneck fumes from half a mile away. Then they
come home and bitch about how "rude" the foreigners are. What a lonely
pitiful nation. Probably only Croatians are less liked than them.

I.

cabal

because from the West they are primitive, they can't learn the East
languages!!!!!Evey Americans is telling, I am a glad I speak English, I
don't know what he/she will speak, maybe they are all a Mute!!!!!

In article <#zIf0qNd$GA.319@cpmsnbbsa03>,
  "Zvonimir Siljkovic" <hussar1@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Growing pains. You call Putin and Chechnya and Kosovo and Slobo
growing
> pains. Please, its a historical inevitability. I don't see how
communism and
> czarist Russia is any different. Or how Royal Yugoslavia or Communist
> Yugoslavia and modern day Serbia  is any different. Its their nature.
 They
> are behaving as they have always behaved.

And you, Croats aren't? Since when? You're judging us sinners, as if
you come from some high moral ground, as if  your predecessors don't
have a long blood record on their hands. Is that so? From the Serbian
pogroms right after the shots made by Gavrila Principal to Ustashi
extermination of Serbs (600,000) and Jews during the WW2 to ethnic
cleansing of modern times-- Croats are strong contanders in all mass
murder and genocide competitions Balcans have come through.

I don't blame "communism." You
> don't see other former communist nations doing the same shit! Its in
their
> nature. They did the same thing before communisms and during
communisms and
> low and behold after communism. To me that is no excuse!

Let us see if you can find excuse for this:

"Curzio Malaparte, one of the most famous Italian writers who attained
world fame, wrote the book "Kaputt", Roma-Milano 1948 (Decima
edizione). The book was published in New York, London, Barcelona, Rio
de Janeiro, Brussels, Belgrade... In his book Malaparte describes his
visit to Ante Pavelic, the leader of Ustashi:

"While they were talking I noticed a cane basket on the left hand side
of the Pavelic's desk. The cover was slightly raised: I could see that
the basket was full of sea fruit. At least, that is what I thought it
was. It looked like oysters but extracted from the shells, like the
ones that you sometimes can see served on large plates at Fortnumm and
Mason, in Piccadilly in London. Casertano looked at me and gave me a
sign with his eyes:

'How would you like to have some oyster soup?'
'Are they Dalmatian oysters?' I asked Pavelic.
Ante Pavelic took the lid off the basket and showed me the sea fruit,
that sticky and jelly-like mass, and then said, laughing with his frank
and tired laughter: 'This is the gift from my faithful Ustashi, twenty
kilos of human eyes.'""

http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/ndh/ndh-germanditalaboutndh.html

Before you even start to write response I'm prepared to bet I know the
answer you will come up with. You'll remember Chetnics. You'll remember
Arcan atrocities. You'll say it was Serbs who started it. It was Serbs
who did this and that. So let me just say one thing: Serbian atrocities
are no excuse for your own atrocities. One gotta wear a clean shirt if
one wants to judge others.

Regards.

> --
> Zvonimir Siljkovic
> Stanciceva 11
> 3 Kat
> Zagreb Medvescak 10000
> hussar1@msn.com
>
> "
>
>


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In article <882hta$8du$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca>,
  ivl@interchange.ubc.ca (Igor V Litvinyuk) wrote:
> Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> : Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are
talking
> : about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet
one that
> : hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On
the other,
> : they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your
Ruskies and
> : Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!
>
> What a silly ignorant moron you are. If you left your village once in
> a while you would know that nobody in the world likes Americans.
> Except for you, pathetic little weasel, but that doesn't count for
much.
> Even Americans themselves know that very well, that's why they
> often pretend to be Canadian while traveling abroad to make sure that
> a waiter wouldn't spit in their soup. But it's easier said than done,
> since they reek of their redneck fumes from half a mile away. Then
they
> come home and bitch about how "rude" the foreigners are. What a lonely
> pitiful nation. Probably only Croatians are less liked than them.

I've never heard of any American tourist that would try to pretend to
be Canadian. And I don't think that people of the world actually hate
Yanks. Granted, they do make fun of them, especially when it comes to
stubborn inability of most Americans learn languages. When some stupid
American tourists demand that natives speak English, it doesn't help
either. But while American tourists can be quite obnoxious, I insist
that comparing to drunken German tourists Americans get distant second
place.

>
> I.
>
>


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In article <sa99cr4dfo820@corp.supernews.com>,
  echao@interaccess.com wrote:
> Igor V Litvinyuk (ivl@interchange.ubc.ca) wrote:
> : Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> : : You don't see Japs, Canadians or Germans hating Yanks, do you!
see Yanks
> : : under German command, Canadians sitting side by side with Yanks
in Norad.
> :
> : Yes,  I do, most every day. Canadians can't stand the pricks,
>
>   Jealousy. Our Dollar is worth almost twice theirs.

Yeah, but have you ever been able to get a fair rate in Canada?
Especially with all those commissions? I think it's all a con game
designed to entrap us and our dollars :-)

>
>   They have been reduced to the state of an albino
>   Mexico, a frigid, northern Tijuana for our tourist
>   curiosity and amusement.
>
> : never mind what their government is doing. But who can blame
> : them, everyone, including their closest NATO allies, hates
> : the bastards' guts.
>
> :
> : I.
> :
>


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In article <8_4p4.15589$OL4.240090@news4.mia>,
  "Amigocabal" <paredon@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> Igor V Litvinyuk wrote in message
<882hta$8du$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca>...
> >Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> >: Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are
> talking
> >: about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet
one
> that
> >: hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On
the
> other,
> >: they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your
Ruskies
> and
> >: Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!
> >
> >What a silly ignorant moron you are. If you left your village once in
> >a while you would know that nobody in the world likes Americans.
> >Except for you, pathetic little weasel, but that doesn't count for
much.
>
> What crap atre you spewing, idiot? Have you ever been to Brioghton
Beach NY/
> Quarter million Russians have immigrated there in the past few years.
Have
> you been to South Beach Miami? Second language here is not Spanish it
is
> Russian?
>
> If Russians hated America so much they would not be immigrating here,
would
> they? You know who just became a citizen of United States? Son of
Nikita
> Kruschev!

Russians do not hate America, OK? But like always, you can't say
anything without lying. I was in Miami Beach just 3 months ago, and
Spanish IS the second language there. There is some Russian community
in Miami but their presence isn't nearly as noticeable as you claim.

> Ho many Hungarians immigrated to your fucking Russia?

Fuck yourself, bitch.

>


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> Let us see if you can find excuse for this:
>
> "Curzio Malaparte, one of the most famous Italian writers who attained
> world fame, wrote the book "Kaputt", Roma-Milano 1948 (Decima
> edizione). The book was published in New York, London, Barcelona, Rio
> de Janeiro, Brussels, Belgrade... In his book Malaparte describes his
> visit to Ante Pavelic, the leader of Ustashi:
>
> "While they were talking I noticed a cane basket on the left hand side
> of the Pavelic's desk. The cover was slightly raised: I could see that
> the basket was full of sea fruit. At least, that is what I thought it
> was. It looked like oysters but extracted from the shells, like the
> ones that you sometimes can see served on large plates at Fortnumm and
> Mason, in Piccadilly in London. Casertano looked at me and gave me a
> sign with his eyes:
>
> 'How would you like to have some oyster soup?'
> 'Are they Dalmatian oysters?' I asked Pavelic.
> Ante Pavelic took the lid off the basket and showed me the sea fruit,
> that sticky and jelly-like mass, and then said, laughing with his frank
> and tired laughter: 'This is the gift from my faithful Ustashi, twenty
> kilos of human eyes.'""
>
> http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/ndh/ndh-germanditalaboutndh.html
>
> Before you even start to write response I'm prepared to bet I know the
> answer you will come up with. You'll remember Chetnics. You'll remember
> Arcan atrocities. You'll say it was Serbs who started it. It was Serbs
> who did this and that. So let me just say one thing: Serbian atrocities
> are no excuse for your own atrocities. One gotta wear a clean shirt if
> one wants to judge others.


MYTH: "THE BASKET OF HUMAN EYEBALLS"

Myth: The Croatian wartime Chief-of-State Ante Pavelic routinely maintained
a basket containing twenty kilos of human eyeballs at his desk side.

Reality: This statement is literally a work of fiction taken from the novel
Kaputt by Curzio Malaparte (Kurt Suckert, also known as Gianni Strozzi). The
book was written as fiction, sold as fiction, and is cataloged in every
library in the world as fiction. To cite Kaputt as a source about World War
II is analogous to citing Gone With the Wind as an authoritative history of
the American Civil War.
That this tired tale is still being retold is the second most amazing part
of this myth. More amazing is that anybody, no matter how blinding their
hatred of Croatians, could believe it. And yet this myth was quoted as fact
as recently as 1995 in official publications printed in Belgrade by the
Ministry of Information of the Republic of Serbia and repeated by naive
journalists around the world. The myth survived and was given renewed life
by the Serbian government, journalists and politicians because it came with
quotation marks. The legend had a footnote, a citation, an author and all
the trappings of fact. The author was often cited as "the most famous
Italian writer," "the Italian journalist" and even the "famed Italian
historian", Curzio Malaparte. His famous quote from the 1946 English
translation of the novel Kaputt reads:
While he spoke, I gazed at a wicker basket on the Poglavnik's desk. The lid
was raised and the basket seemed to be filled with mussels, or shelled
oysters --as they are occasionally displayed in the windows ''of Fortnum and
Mason in Piccadilly in London.
Castertano looked at me and winked, "Would you like a nice oyster stew?"
"Are they Dalmatian oysters?" I asked the Poglavnik.
Ante Pavelic removed the lid from the basket and revealed the mussels, that
slimy and jelly-like mass, and he said smiling, with that tired good-natured
smile of his, "It is a present from my loyal usatshis. Forty pounds of human
eyes."
Kaputt and its author both had fascinating stories to tell. In the original
press release for the book, Malaparte ed that the manuscript was started in
the Ukraine in 1941 and smuggled throughout Europe in coat linings and in
the soles of his shoes. Finally, the manuscript was divided into three parts
and given to three diplomats, to be reunited in 1943 on Capri where it was
finished. The book chronicled Malaparte's movements around Europe in 1941
and 1942, when he claimed to have visited every front and knew every head of
state, usually on a; first name basis. Malaparte apparently spoke every
language and shared the charms of every beautiful princess.
According to his own preface to Kaputt, his personal friendships with
Mussolini, Hitler and others did not save him from being thrown into jail in
July 1943 as antiGerman. Miraculously, he was soon freed and was working for
the Allies by September of that year. It was while working as a propagandist
for the Allies that Malaparte conipleted Kaputt, which he described as
"...horribly gay and gruesome."
The critics agreed. Malaparte's two major books, Kaputt and Skin were 5
labeled "Best selling Nausea" by Time magazine. His writings contained pages
of sordid tales about the evil world of Fascist Europe. Malaparte's basket
of human eyeballs must be taken in context, as Time magazine wrote in 1952:
"He shows mothers who sell their children into prostitution; but then, says
Malaparte with a smirk, there are also the children who would gladly sell
their mothers. He dwells for part of a chapter on a street peopled with
twisted female dwarfs, who fed, he asserts gleefully, on the unnatural lust
in the American ranks. Another chapter is concerned with a visit to a shop
that sells blonde pubic wigs. U.S. soldiers, Malaparte explains, like
blondes."
These offensive themes only scratch the surface of Malaparte's sick
writings. That the Allies won the War through the devices of a "homosexual
maquis", flags of human skin, and an Allied general who served his guests a
boiled child are all included in Malaparte's fare.

bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:

> as if  your predecessors don't
> have a long blood record on their hands. Is that so? From the Serbian
> pogroms right after the shots made by Gavrila Principal

Serbian pogroms? "Gavrila Principal"? What the hell's this guy talking about?

> Let us see if you can find excuse for this:
>
> "Curzio Malaparte, one of the most famous Italian writers who attained
> world fame, wrote the book "Kaputt", Roma-Milano 1948 (Decima
> edizione). The book was published in New York, London, Barcelona, Rio
> de Janeiro, Brussels, Belgrade... In his book Malaparte describes his
> visit to Ante Pavelic, the leader of Ustashi:

Excuse for a work of fiction? As sick as Pavelic was, it is unbelievable that
there's still people out there who thump this book as *the* biggest proof of the
ustasa crimes. What's next? Quoting Clancey and Danielle Steele?




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bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:

> In article <38A505AE.801EECA9@earthlink.net>,
>   Zoran Brlecic <zbrlecic@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > > as if  your predecessors don't
> > > have a long blood record on their hands. Is that so? From the
> Serbian
> > > pogroms right after the shots made by Gavrila Principal
> >
> > Serbian pogroms? "Gavrila Principal"? What the hell's this guy
> talking about?
>
> "This guy" is talking about the assossination of the Archduke Franz
> Ferdinand in Sarayevo by Gavrila Princip (sorry for misspeling). As
> soon as the news spreaded across the city enraged mobs went on a
> killing spree ("bey serbov"). This is what "this guy" calls "Serbian
> pogroms"

Well, this guy apparently doesn't know what he's talking about. Enraged mobs?
Killing spree? Serbian pogroms? What's the Austro-Hungarian police got to do
with anything today?

And it's Gavrilo, not Gavrila, a member of the terrorist organization Young
Bosnia. You know, just like those Chechens you're so rightfully massacring today
on their own land.



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In article <38A671E3.D93BD09F@earthlink.net>,
  Zoran Brlecic <zbrlecic@earthlink.net> wrote:
> bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > In article <38A505AE.801EECA9@earthlink.net>,
> >   Zoran Brlecic <zbrlecic@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > > bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > as if  your predecessors don't
> > > > have a long blood record on their hands. Is that so? From the
> > Serbian
> > > > pogroms right after the shots made by Gavrila Principal
> > >
> > > Serbian pogroms? "Gavrila Principal"? What the hell's this guy
> > talking about?
> >
> > "This guy" is talking about the assossination of the Archduke Franz
> > Ferdinand in Sarayevo by Gavrila Princip (sorry for misspeling). As
> > soon as the news spreaded across the city enraged mobs went on a
> > killing spree ("bey serbov"). This is what "this guy" calls "Serbian
> > pogroms"
>
> Well, this guy apparently doesn't know what he's talking about.
Enraged mobs?
> Killing spree? Serbian pogroms?

Well, "this guy" has to insist that immediately after assassination of
the Archduke and his wife in August 1914, Serbian pogroms ensued in
Sarayevo. Several dozens of Serbs were killed and injured. "This guy"
is sincerely puzzled why Mr. Brlecic stubbornly denies that relatively
mild event in a view of so many more terrible bloodlettings in a
history of relationships between Serbs and Croatians.

>What's the Austro-Hungarian police got to do
> with anything today?

I have no idea. I have never mentioned Austro-Hungarian police in my
posts

>
> And it's Gavrilo, not Gavrila, a member of the terrorist organization
Young
> Bosnia.

I apologize again for the misspeling but if you insist on nosepicking,
then you'll probably want to know that the terrorist organization
you're reffering to, was called 'Black Hand' and not 'Young Bosnia'.

>You know, just like those Chechens you're so rightfully massacring
today
> on their own land.

I admit, I'm lost. What is "like those Chechens you're so rightfully
massacring today on their own land"? What's the connection? If this is
your idea of striking back-- you gotta do better then that.

Regards.


>
> --
> Support freedom of speech, or I'll kill you!
>
>


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Its funny. I have traveled all over Europe and the Americas and I have never
seen anyone hate me for an America. Never seen anyone join a  military
service willingly to fight America. What I have seen is people fleeing your
little shifty country. It seems Igor you come from a backward little
country. And you are jealous that people fear you. Not like you. They don;t
buy any products you make, watch any of your movies, listen to any of you
music and always laugh at the backward Russians. The stupid Russians. The
lazy Russians. Oh and the lack of deodorant in the whole country. I can
understand why that makes you bitter. I to would be bitter if I cam from a
bitch-ass backward country. What's the annually salary in Russia? Less then
in Croatia! Less the Slovenia! Ha 2 million Slovenes can earn more per
capita then you worthless Russians. I am surprised you ruskies can afford to
travel or are you fleeing. Hell half your nation is always freeing from the
other half! Canada eh! Life in mother Russia so good! Canada, what's a
matter your visa to the usa was turned down. No surprise, one thing we don't
need is another Russian welfare queen!

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3 Kat
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hussar1@msn.com


"Igor V Litvinyuk" <ivl@interchange.ubc.ca> wrote in message
news:882hta$8du$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca...
> Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
> : Igor, a real Canadian name eh. I don't know which Canadians you are
talking
> : about. Or Germans or French or Japanese's. But I have yet to meet one
that
> : hates the USA or Americans. They might disagree but not hate. On the
other,
> : they are all willing to form a military alliance to crush your Ruskies
and
> : Serbs. That tells me all I need to know!
>
> What a silly ignorant moron you are. If you left your village once in
> a while you would know that nobody in the world likes Americans.
> Except for you, pathetic little weasel, but that doesn't count for much.
> Even Americans themselves know that very well, that's why they
> often pretend to be Canadian while traveling abroad to make sure that
> a waiter wouldn't spit in their soup. But it's easier said than done,
> since they reek of their redneck fumes from half a mile away. Then they
> come home and bitch about how "rude" the foreigners are. What a lonely
> pitiful nation. Probably only Croatians are less liked than them.
>
> I.
>

Zvonimir Siljkovic (hussar1@email.msn.com) wrote:
<...>

Whatever. What a dumbass. Exactly what I mean.

I.

What are you driveling about? Don't you know that Russia has exterminated at
least 20 original native nations of Siberia, murdered 75% of Ukrainian
Tatars, Bombed Kamchatka without telling the natives to leave, thus
exterminating a whole nation Kiryaks, murdered in cold blood 7 million U
krainians, God only knows how many million Russians, an God only knows how
many millions of the citizens of other republics, and you are drivelling
about United States being a "threat" to someone!

Russia is led by a professional killer, executioner, and a thief,     who
has already presided over the theft of 120 billion dollars from the Russian
Treasury.

 It is only apropriate that both Russia and Serbia should be led by war
criminals, thiefs and  professional killers. After all Pol Pot employed only
killers in his enterprise, also!

I know  for sure that they hate Russians, and I do not really care if they
do or do not like Americans! I know that Cubans hate Russians far more than
they ever  hated anyone else!

firefly wrote in message ...
>cabal
>
>You don't know there isn;'t anymore Czechoslovakia, I forget you are
>educated in the US, they don't teach Geography.It is only in your dream
>about the velcome of the Americans, why don't yoiu travel to the mentionned
>countries, you will get your answear.You mixing Turism with attitude toward
>the Americans.Every country like tu atract the turist, not because they
like
>them, it is strictly bussines.They take your money after couple of days
they
>are glad you are gone!!!!Do you know how many Americans like to go to
>Russia, problem is they can't offord it!!!!
>
>

A million Russians have immigrated to United States in the past three years.
Are they all Jews?

No I am  not  a Jew, but I respect them as much as I respect other
religions!

I write the truth! I was born in Serbia, and know every inch of that
country, and I saw the atrocities that Draza Mihailovic and other Serbian
quislings comitted against their own people. I want the world to know the
truth. You and other parazites always use lies to justify the horrific
crimes committed by serbs!

Fireshit, you stupid arsehole. I saw Russians rape  children, women and kill
men, in Serbia in 1944!

Fireshit, you do not know  anything about America, do not pretend that you
do!

In article <38a4fd9d@news.rivernet.com.au>,
  "Marko Njavro" <marko@rivernet.com.au> wrote:
>
>
> ----------
> In article <882og6$e0n$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > Let us see if you can find excuse for this:
> >
> > "Curzio Malaparte, one of the most famous Italian writers who
attained
> > world fame, wrote the book "Kaputt", Roma-Milano 1948 (Decima
> > edizione). The book was published in New York, London, Barcelona,
Rio
> > de Janeiro, Brussels, Belgrade... In his book Malaparte describes
his
> > visit to Ante Pavelic, the leader of Ustashi:
> >
> > "While they were talking I noticed a cane basket on the left hand
side
> > of the Pavelic's desk. The cover was slightly raised: I could see
that
> > the basket was full of sea fruit. At least, that is what I thought
it
> > was. It looked like oysters but extracted from the shells, like the
> > ones that you sometimes can see served on large plates at Fortnumm
and
> > Mason, in Piccadilly in London. Casertano looked at me and gave me a
> > sign with his eyes:
> >
> > 'How would you like to have some oyster soup?'
> > 'Are they Dalmatian oysters?' I asked Pavelic.
> > Ante Pavelic took the lid off the basket and showed me the sea
fruit,
> > that sticky and jelly-like mass, and then said, laughing with his
frank
> > and tired laughter: 'This is the gift from my faithful Ustashi,
twenty
> > kilos of human eyes.'""
> >
> > http://suc.suc.org/~kosta/tar/ndh/ndh-germanditalaboutndh.html
> >
> > Before you even start to write response I'm prepared to bet I know
the
> > answer you will come up with. You'll remember Chetnics. You'll
remember
> > Arcan atrocities. You'll say it was Serbs who started it. It was
Serbs
> > who did this and that. So let me just say one thing: Serbian
atrocities
> > are no excuse for your own atrocities. One gotta wear a clean shirt
if
> > one wants to judge others.
>
> MYTH: "THE BASKET OF HUMAN EYEBALLS"
>
> Myth: The Croatian wartime Chief-of-State Ante Pavelic routinely
maintained
> a basket containing twenty kilos of human eyeballs at his desk side.
>
> Reality: This statement is literally a work of fiction taken from the
novel
> Kaputt by Curzio Malaparte (Kurt Suckert, also known as Gianni
Strozzi). The
> book was written as fiction, sold as fiction, and is cataloged in
every
> library in the world as fiction. To cite Kaputt as a source about
World War
> II is analogous to citing Gone With the Wind as an authoritative
history of
> the American Civil War.
> That this tired tale is still being retold is the second most amazing
part
> of this myth. More amazing is that anybody, no matter how blinding
their
> hatred of Croatians, could believe it. And yet this myth was quoted
as fact
> as recently as 1995 in official publications printed in Belgrade by
the
> Ministry of Information of the Republic of Serbia and repeated by
naive
> journalists around the world. The myth survived and was given renewed
life
> by the Serbian government, journalists and politicians because it
came with
> quotation marks. The legend had a footnote, a citation, an author and
all
> the trappings of fact. The author was often cited as "the most famous
> Italian writer," "the Italian journalist" and even the "famed Italian
> historian", Curzio Malaparte. His famous quote from the 1946 English
> translation of the novel Kaputt reads:
> While he spoke, I gazed at a wicker basket on the Poglavnik's desk.
The lid
> was raised and the basket seemed to be filled with mussels, or shelled
> oysters --as they are occasionally displayed in the windows ''of
Fortnum and
> Mason in Piccadilly in London.
> Castertano looked at me and winked, "Would you like a nice oyster
stew?"
> "Are they Dalmatian oysters?" I asked the Poglavnik.
> Ante Pavelic removed the lid from the basket and revealed the
mussels, that
> slimy and jelly-like mass, and he said smiling, with that tired good-
natured
> smile of his, "It is a present from my loyal usatshis. Forty pounds
of human
> eyes."
> Kaputt and its author both had fascinating stories to tell. In the
original
> press release for the book, Malaparte ed that the manuscript was
started in
> the Ukraine in 1941 and smuggled throughout Europe in coat linings
and in
> the soles of his shoes. Finally, the manuscript was divided into
three parts
> and given to three diplomats, to be reunited in 1943 on Capri where
it was
> finished. The book chronicled Malaparte's movements around Europe in
1941
> and 1942, when he claimed to have visited every front and knew every
head of
> state, usually on a; first name basis. Malaparte apparently spoke
every
> language and shared the charms of every beautiful princess.
> According to his own preface to Kaputt, his personal friendships with
> Mussolini, Hitler and others did not save him from being thrown into
jail in
> July 1943 as antiGerman. Miraculously, he was soon freed and was
working for
> the Allies by September of that year. It was while working as a
propagandist
> for the Allies that Malaparte conipleted Kaputt, which he described as
> "...horribly gay and gruesome."
> The critics agreed. Malaparte's two major books, Kaputt and Skin were
5
> labeled "Best selling Nausea" by Time magazine. His writings
contained pages
> of sordid tales about the evil world of Fascist Europe. Malaparte's
basket
> of human eyeballs must be taken in context, as Time magazine wrote in
1952:
> "He shows mothers who sell their children into prostitution; but
then, says
> Malaparte with a smirk, there are also the children who would gladly
sell
> their mothers. He dwells for part of a chapter on a street peopled
with
> twisted female dwarfs, who fed, he asserts gleefully, on the
unnatural lust
> in the American ranks. Another chapter is concerned with a visit to a
shop
> that sells blonde pubic wigs. U.S. soldiers, Malaparte explains, like
> blondes."
> These offensive themes only scratch the surface of Malaparte's sick
> writings. That the Allies won the War through the devices of
a "homosexual
> maquis", flags of human skin, and an Allied general who served his
guests a
> boiled child are all included in Malaparte's fare.

Story about Ante Pavelic 'eyes' was also mentioned as an established
fact in a book of Edmond Paris "Genocide in Satellite Croatia".

However, it's all beside the point. Let's forget the 'eyes'. Let's
presume it never happened. What about Jasenovac-- did that happened? Do
you deny that Ustashi exterminated hundreds of thousands of civilians
during the WW2 (let aside more recent crimes against humanity committed
by Croats, small part of which is well DOCUMENTED by the Hague
Tibunal)? My point being is that that fella from Zagreb is the last
person in the entire world who has right to trash Russia because
according to his logic Croatians are yet to prove the world that new
Croatia and Ustashi Croatia are different. Taking "Mein Campf"
and "Zion Protocols" off shelves in Zagreb bookstores would be a first,
but very important step, I guess. Second thing they could do is to stop
greeting German tourists with a 'Heil'. The word is-- some of them (the
tourists) get realy embarassed by excessive Croatian friendliness.


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In article <38A505AE.801EECA9@earthlink.net>,
  Zoran Brlecic <zbrlecic@earthlink.net> wrote:
> bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > as if  your predecessors don't
> > have a long blood record on their hands. Is that so? From the
Serbian
> > pogroms right after the shots made by Gavrila Principal
>
> Serbian pogroms? "Gavrila Principal"? What the hell's this guy
talking about?

"This guy" is talking about the assossination of the Archduke Franz
Ferdinand in Sarayevo by Gavrila Princip (sorry for misspeling). As
soon as the news spreaded across the city enraged mobs went on a
killing spree ("bey serbov"). This is what "this guy" calls "Serbian
pogroms"

>
> > Let us see if you can find excuse for this:
> >
> > "Curzio Malaparte, one of the most famous Italian writers who
attained
> > world fame, wrote the book "Kaputt", Roma-Milano 1948 (Decima
> > edizione). The book was published in New York, London, Barcelona,
Rio
> > de Janeiro, Brussels, Belgrade... In his book Malaparte describes
his
> > visit to Ante Pavelic, the leader of Ustashi:
>
> Excuse for a work of fiction? As sick as Pavelic was, it is
unbelievable that
> there's still people out there who thump this book as *the* biggest
proof of the
> ustasa crimes. What's next? Quoting Clancey and Danielle Steele?
>
> --
> Support freedom of speech, or I'll kill you!
>
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In article <38A505AE.801EECA9@earthlink.net>,
  Zoran Brlecic <zbrlecic@earthlink.net> wrote:
> bbbj@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > as if  your predecessors don't
> > have a long blood record on their hands. Is that so? From the
Serbian
> > pogroms right after the shots made by Gavrila Principal
>
> Serbian pogroms? "Gavrila Principal"? What the hell's this guy
talking about?

"This guy" is talking about the assossination of the Archduke Franz
Ferdinand in Sarayevo by Gavrila Princip (sorry for misspeling). As
soon as the news spreaded across the city enraged mobs went on a
killing spree ("bey serbov"). This is what "this guy" calls "Serbian
pogroms"

>
> > Let us see if you can find excuse for this:
> >
> > "Curzio Malaparte, one of the most famous Italian writers who
attained
> > world fame, wrote the book "Kaputt", Roma-Milano 1948 (Decima
> > edizione). The book was published in New York, London, Barcelona,
Rio
> > de Janeiro, Brussels, Belgrade... In his book Malaparte describes
his
> > visit to Ante Pavelic, the leader of Ustashi:
>
> Excuse for a work of fiction? As sick as Pavelic was, it is
unbelievable that
> there's still people out there who thump this book as *the* biggest
proof of the
> ustasa crimes. What's next? Quoting Clancey and Danielle Steele?

> --
> Support freedom of speech, or I'll kill you!
>
>


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In article <881k0d$j3i$1@nntp.itservices.ubc.ca>,
  ivl@interchange.ubc.ca (Igor V Litvinyuk) wrote:
> : In article <sa8aeg9f9gt105@corp.supernews.com>,
> : > :
> : > : Even if that was true, the Russians would still be doing one
better
> : > : than the Yanks, who everybody hates without exception.
> LIE DETECTOR� (lie_detector@my-deja.com) wrote:
>
> : How do you explain that the multi-cultural US has large communities
> : from every country in the world including Russia, can the same be
said
> : of Russia? No I thought not, masses of people from the East always
want
> : to live in the West, but very few from the West want to live in the
> : East..I wonder why?
>
> Eh, could it be because life in the West is better?

You got it!

> If anything it's just an extra reason to hate the Yanks, as if all
other reasons wouldn't do already.

Ah didums, suck your thumb it'll make you feel better.
>
>
>

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