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Niamh O'Sullivan wrote:

>
> Something interesting was mentioned in the prologue by the author.  He
> says that the "Celtic Church" let women offer Mass, until Rome put a stop
> to it.  I don't remember coming across that before, not even in "How the
> Irish Saved Civilzation"  (although the author did claim that St. Brigid
> was pro-abortion!).

The Celtic Church never let women celebrate Mass.  It wasn't all that
different from the Roman Church; the biggest arguments between the Celts and
the Romans was over the form of the tonsure(?!), and when Easter should be
celebrated.  Rome took some of the Celtic Church's ideas though, especially
this funny notion that confessing privately whenever one had committed a sin
was better than a once-and-for-all public confession.

On Tue, 4 Jan 2000 00:40:09 +0000, kfuzzbox@tinet.ie
(kfuzzbox@tinet.ie) wrote:

>Stephanie Rendino <beau65@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
>> The Celtic Church never let women celebrate Mass.  It wasn't all that
>> different from the Roman Church; the biggest arguments between the Celts and
>> the Romans was over the form of the tonsure(?!), and when Easter should be
>> celebrated.
>
>I also read once that early Celtic Church practiced circumcision and
>kept the Sabbath as Saturday. I am not sure if this was bullshit or not
>but it sounded interesting.


I'm no  expert on religion but I might suspect that the idea about the
Sabbath on Saturday may have come about as justification for allowing
the evening mass on Saturday to count as if it was Sunday. The
circumcision idea just sounds like an excuse some priest came up with
when found hanging onto the knob of an alter boy.

Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if this was true, as the Catholic
religion has its beginnings in Judaism.



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Michael Flynn

Michael Flynn <mickf@gofree.indigo.ie> wrote:

> Seriously, it wouldn't surprise me if this was true, as the Catholic
> religion has its beginnings in Judaism.


You hear that Ray?


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kfuzzbox@tinet.ie

Stephanie Rendino <beau65@videotron.ca> wrote:


> The Celtic Church never let women celebrate Mass.  It wasn't all that
> different from the Roman Church; the biggest arguments between the Celts and
> the Romans was over the form of the tonsure(?!), and when Easter should be
> celebrated.

I also read once that early Celtic Church practiced circumcision and
kept the Sabbath as Saturday. I am not sure if this was bullshit or not
but it sounded interesting.



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kfuzzbox@tinet.ie

In article <no-spam-0301001640450001@adsl-209-204-160-28.sonic.net>,
  no-spam@irish.net (Niamh O'Sullivan) wrote:
> Has anyone read these?  I just received a late Xmas package with 3 of
> them.  They are  stories about a  medieval Irish detective/lawyer/nun
> named Sr. Fidelma, who belongs to the order of St. Brigid of
Kildare.  It
> seems like a female Br. Cadfael, I guess.  By Peter Tremayne, the
Sister
> Fidelma Mysteries:  Absolution by Murder, A Shroud for the
Archbishop, and
> The Subtle Serpent.

I read a short story once, in an anthology.  The forward lauded
Tremayne for doing meticulous research (and the bits about Celtic law
and customs are fascinating - I've never been much exposed to it
before).

Actually, I'm glad you posted this; I'd been meaning to look for more
stories, but couldn't remember the author or character's name. :-)

Jim


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<kfuzzbox@tinet.ie> wrote in message
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> Stephanie Rendino <beau65@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
>
> > The Celtic Church never let women celebrate Mass.  It wasn't all that
> > different from the Roman Church; the biggest arguments between the Celts
and
> > the Romans was over the form of the tonsure(?!), and when Easter should
be
> > celebrated.
>
> I also read once that early Celtic Church practiced circumcision and
> kept the Sabbath as Saturday. I am not sure if this was bullshit or not
> but it sounded interesting.
>
>
>
> --
> kfuzzbox@tinet.ie

"kfuzzbox@tinet.ie" wrote:

> Stephanie Rendino <beau65@videotron.ca> wrote:
>
> > The Celtic Church never let women celebrate Mass.  It wasn't all that
> > different from the Roman Church; the biggest arguments between the Celts and
> > the Romans was over the form of the tonsure(?!), and when Easter should be
> > celebrated.
>
> I also read once that early Celtic Church practiced circumcision and
> kept the Sabbath as Saturday. I am not sure if this was bullshit or not
> but it sounded interesting.

I'm not an expert, but it sounds like bs.  I've never heard of Jewish missionaries
to Ireland.  (I went through a kick of reading everything I could on the Celtic
Church while I was at McGill.)

Stephanie Rendino <beau65@videotron.ca> wrote:

> "kfuzzbox@tinet.ie" wrote: > I also read once that early Celtic Church
> practiced circumcision and > kept the Sabbath as Saturday. I am not sure
> if this was bullshit or not > but it sounded interesting.
>
> I'm not an expert, but it sounds like bs.  I've never heard of Jewish
> missionaries to Ireland.  (I went through a kick of reading everything I
> could on the Celtic Church while I was at McGill.)


There was nothing Jewish about it. The story I came across related to
the importation of certain Eastern forms of Christianity. They were not
Jewish sects. It probably is all bollox anyway.


-- kfuzzbox@tinet.ie