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Article #98882

Re: Bluefish Cave Site

#98882
From: paleocity@hotmai
Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 08:08
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icycalmca@yahoo.com (Daryl Krupa) wrote in message news:<c70365ef.0405012130.53218553@posting.google.com>...
> paleocity@hotmail.com (Lee Olsen) wrote in message news:<40a73547.0404301814.190b734c@posting.google.com>...
> > "Val Lentz" <vlentz@shaw.ca> wrote....
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > Daryl Krupa summed up the geology of the Chobot's site: "There is no
> > reason to believe that the Chobots have found material under glacial
> > till."
> >
> > I'm summing up the artifacts, that were claimed to be found under the
> > glacial till, as geofacts.
>
>   Just to be perfectly clear, Lee,
> I can't see how the material above the artifacts could be accurately
> described as "glacial till". Buck Lake sits on a thick bed of till,
> and the best guess is that there was only a single glacial advance
> into that area (and only a single glacial advance into the whole
> "ice-free corridor" area, for that matter).

Just to be perfectly clear, Daryl, I don't have a clue about the
geology of the site.

>   I.e., whatever is above the artifacts is not glacial till, and so
> there is no reason to believe that the Chobots found a pre-glacial
> campsite.

Judging by the artifacts that are claimed to be old, I would say they
didn't find a pre-glacial campsite either.

>   In that case, they need not be geofacts, but rather might quite
> possibly be ordinary post-glacial artifacts, somewhere between 12,000
> and 20 years old.

Not one of the artifacts pictured from the claimed pre-glacial level
would be considered an artifact out of context. They look more like,
well, Calico Hills artifacts.

>
> > If you are interested, I can try scanning the complete MT article (as
> > a PDF) and sending it to you. Then you can see the "alleged artifacts"
> > for yourself.
>
>   I'm interested; the local library throws out a Mammoth Trumpets older
> than a year.

Excuse #41

>   How big would the PDF file be?
>  (I'd like some warning if it's in the megabyte range).

About 12 MB.  If it would help, I could break it down and send  one
page (3MB) at a time.

>
>   As an aside, Val, I had a chance meeting with a local physical
> anthropologist / archeologist, who informed me that the present
> head of the Alberta Archaeological Survey has done some work on
> the Chobot site. I'll be contacting him next week, to hear what
> he thinks of it.
>
> Daryl Krupa

When the East Wenatchee cache was found here in Washington, anthros
from all over the United States descended  like locusts, just as fast
as they could get a plane ticket to the site. They fought over who was
going to get to do the dig and most of it was done on a volunteer
basis. I would think that after 20 years, if the Chobot site was
legit, someone would have done a dig and published something by now.


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