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Dear Daryl Habel,
Thanks for uploading the paper to someplace I could read it.
The blades seem to be definitely of the Aurignacian tradition and not
the much later Clovis blades.
Daryl Habel wrote:
> Philip Deitiker <Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<wGmcc.25020$vo5.780439@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
>
>>Dar_83001@yahoo.com (Daryl Habel) says  in
>>news:d24f0b9f.0404051605.10400146@posting.google.com:
>>
>>
>>>The 24,500 year old mammoth bone interpreted as a bone
>>>core-tool with a refitted bifacially trimmed flake is
>>>published with photos and drawings in:
>>>
>>>Cinq-Mars J and Morlan RE (1999). Bluefish Caves and Old
>>>Crow Basin: A New Rapport. In: R. Bonnichsen & KL Turnmire
>>>(eds.) Ice Age Peoples of North America: Environments,
>>>Origins and Adaptations of the First Americans. Corvallis:
>>>Oregon State University Press - Centre for the Study of the
>>>First Americans. pp. 200-212.
>>>
>>>There is, at Bluefish Caves, some evidence consisting of
>>>small pieces of stone interpreted as retouching debris and
>>>cutmarked bones scattered about in the loess dating to
>>>between ca. 19-13 kyr BP, as well as more solid evidence of
>>>the Paleo-Arctic microblade tradition, in the form of whole
>>>artifacts dating to the same period as those found in
>>>Alaska (ca. 11-10 kyr BP).  This evidence is not fully
>>>documented in the above reference, but I'm sure Cinq-Mars
>>>has published some articles on these, also.
>>>
>>>But....there are no human fossils from Bluefish Caves.
>>>Adovasio calls it "one of those [sites] that will not go
>>>away".  My opinion (worthless) is that it is pre-Clovis,
>>>but who knows by how much?
>>
>>Dar,
>>  I see you have decided to come down into the trenches
>>with the serfs. lol. Are the bluefish caves on the east side or
>>south side of the glaciation line that prevented entry into the
>>central part of canada. I think we have had this conversation
>>before and the basic conclusion is that people reached the
>>region but later had to retreat.
>
>
> Bluefish and Old Crow are north of the central part of Canada
> where the "ice-free corridor" between the Cordellerian
> and Greenland glaciations existed.  I think it more accurate to
> say that the Bluefish region and the "corridor" was potentially
> habitable from at least 40-50,000 years ago until Clovis times.  If
> the corrider "closed" it was not until after about 20,000 years ago
> and (if closed) did not re-open until about Clovis times.  The
> "corridor" is a moot question before and after 20-12 kyr BP, but if
> people managed to reach Bluefish/Old Crow 40-25,000 years ago,
> there is no "glaciation" reason why they would necessarily have to
> retreat.  And before "closure" there's no reason why they could
> not use central Canada as a route south.  Bluefish/Old Crow were
> never covered by the late Wisconsin glaciation (LGM).