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Re: Bluefish Cave Site

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From: Dar_83001@yahoo.
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:50
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Philip Deitiker <Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<wGmcc.25020$vo5.780439@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>...
> Dar_83001@yahoo.com (Daryl Habel) says  in
> news:d24f0b9f.0404051605.10400146@posting.google.com:
>
> > The 24,500 year old mammoth bone interpreted as a bone
> > core-tool with a refitted bifacially trimmed flake is
> > published with photos and drawings in:
> >
> > Cinq-Mars J and Morlan RE (1999). Bluefish Caves and Old
> > Crow Basin: A New Rapport. In: R. Bonnichsen & KL Turnmire
> > (eds.) Ice Age Peoples of North America: Environments,
> > Origins and Adaptations of the First Americans. Corvallis:
> > Oregon State University Press - Centre for the Study of the
> > First Americans. pp. 200-212.
> >
> > There is, at Bluefish Caves, some evidence consisting of
> > small pieces of stone interpreted as retouching debris and
> > cutmarked bones scattered about in the loess dating to
> > between ca. 19-13 kyr BP, as well as more solid evidence of
> > the Paleo-Arctic microblade tradition, in the form of whole
> > artifacts dating to the same period as those found in
> > Alaska (ca. 11-10 kyr BP).  This evidence is not fully
> > documented in the above reference, but I'm sure Cinq-Mars
> > has published some articles on these, also.
> >
> > But....there are no human fossils from Bluefish Caves.
> > Adovasio calls it "one of those [sites] that will not go
> > away".  My opinion (worthless) is that it is pre-Clovis,
> > but who knows by how much?
>
> Dar,
>   I see you have decided to come down into the trenches
> with the serfs. lol. Are the bluefish caves on the east side or
> south side of the glaciation line that prevented entry into the
> central part of canada. I think we have had this conversation
> before and the basic conclusion is that people reached the
> region but later had to retreat.

Bluefish and Old Crow are north of the central part of Canada
where the "ice-free corridor" between the Cordellerian
and Greenland glaciations existed.  I think it more accurate to
say that the Bluefish region and the "corridor" was potentially
habitable from at least 40-50,000 years ago until Clovis times.  If
the corrider "closed" it was not until after about 20,000 years ago
and (if closed) did not re-open until about Clovis times.  The
"corridor" is a moot question before and after 20-12 kyr BP, but if
people managed to reach Bluefish/Old Crow 40-25,000 years ago,
there is no "glaciation" reason why they would necessarily have to
retreat.  And before "closure" there's no reason why they could
not use central Canada as a route south.  Bluefish/Old Crow were
never covered by the late Wisconsin glaciation (LGM).


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