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Article #97516Re: Bluefish Cave Site
From: Dar_83001@yahoo.
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:50
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2004 06:50
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Philip Deitiker <Donevenask@worlnet.att.net> wrote in message news:<wGmcc.25020$vo5.780439@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>... > Dar_83001@yahoo.com (Daryl Habel) says in > news:d24f0b9f.0404051605.10400146@posting.google.com: > > > The 24,500 year old mammoth bone interpreted as a bone > > core-tool with a refitted bifacially trimmed flake is > > published with photos and drawings in: > > > > Cinq-Mars J and Morlan RE (1999). Bluefish Caves and Old > > Crow Basin: A New Rapport. In: R. Bonnichsen & KL Turnmire > > (eds.) Ice Age Peoples of North America: Environments, > > Origins and Adaptations of the First Americans. Corvallis: > > Oregon State University Press - Centre for the Study of the > > First Americans. pp. 200-212. > > > > There is, at Bluefish Caves, some evidence consisting of > > small pieces of stone interpreted as retouching debris and > > cutmarked bones scattered about in the loess dating to > > between ca. 19-13 kyr BP, as well as more solid evidence of > > the Paleo-Arctic microblade tradition, in the form of whole > > artifacts dating to the same period as those found in > > Alaska (ca. 11-10 kyr BP). This evidence is not fully > > documented in the above reference, but I'm sure Cinq-Mars > > has published some articles on these, also. > > > > But....there are no human fossils from Bluefish Caves. > > Adovasio calls it "one of those [sites] that will not go > > away". My opinion (worthless) is that it is pre-Clovis, > > but who knows by how much? > > Dar, > I see you have decided to come down into the trenches > with the serfs. lol. Are the bluefish caves on the east side or > south side of the glaciation line that prevented entry into the > central part of canada. I think we have had this conversation > before and the basic conclusion is that people reached the > region but later had to retreat. Bluefish and Old Crow are north of the central part of Canada where the "ice-free corridor" between the Cordellerian and Greenland glaciations existed. I think it more accurate to say that the Bluefish region and the "corridor" was potentially habitable from at least 40-50,000 years ago until Clovis times. If the corrider "closed" it was not until after about 20,000 years ago and (if closed) did not re-open until about Clovis times. The "corridor" is a moot question before and after 20-12 kyr BP, but if people managed to reach Bluefish/Old Crow 40-25,000 years ago, there is no "glaciation" reason why they would necessarily have to retreat. And before "closure" there's no reason why they could not use central Canada as a route south. Bluefish/Old Crow were never covered by the late Wisconsin glaciation (LGM).
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