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Sun, 14 May 2006 19:39
Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: sloan@ishipress.
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 19:39
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 19:39
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Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side September 30, 1996 - a date which will live in infamy - Steve Doyle, the USA Delegate who had been sent by the USCF to Yerevan, Armenia to be a member of the Jaime Sunye Neto reform slate in the campaign for election for FIDE President, defected to the other side and joined the Kirsan Ilyumzhinov slate. In exchange for selling out his country, Steve Doyle received a Rolex watch and a position of FIDE Vice-President, which meant that for the next ten years up until today, Doyle has had all his expenses paid to attend FIDE meetings wherever they are held in the world. Ever since, Kirsan Ilyumzhinov has won re-election in 1998 and 2002 by the simple expedient by bribing his opponents with promises of positions in the new FIDE. For example, his opponent in 2002, Ignatius Leong of Singapore, quit the race, then rejoined the race and then quit the race again to become FIDE General Secretary, a position he holds today. Since Kirsan Ilyumzhinov has a long history of winning elections by buying off the opposition and inviting them to join his administration, thereby discarding others who had been loyal to him up until then, I have been asking for the past year whether this might happen again and whether our present delegation might be bribable. I discussed this issue with Bill Kelleher, who is at present the USA delegate to FIDE, during the USCF Executive Board meetings in Parsippany, New Jersey in February, and he assured me that no member of the USA Delegation would defect to Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. But Bill was wrong. Apparently, nobody thought that Beatriz Marinello would defect to the other side, but she has. Her motivation is obvious. Beatriz Marinello wants to be elected as FIDE General Secretary for the Americas. Most of the countries of Central and South America are either supporting Kirsan Ilyumzhinov or are neutral. In addition, the FIDE Continental Officers are elected by the FIDE General Assembly, NOT by the countries involved. Therefore, if Kirsan Ilyumzhinov is elected FIDE president, he will get to choose who the continental officials will be and Beatriz Marinello obviously believes that she will get that position if she supports Kirsan for reelection. Sam Sloan
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: marcus@stkittsne
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:56
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:56
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I think that Ignatu Leong of Singapore does not want black people in the world chess championhip. He is an arrogant snob who is abou to get taught a lesson. Marcus Roberts
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Andrew Zito"
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:41
Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:41
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Everyone now knows that Marinello is a fucking lying bitch. There's no nice way to put it. Marinello is only about herself. She's the best chess politician money can buy. This fucking bitch can't be trusted. This lesbo used John McArthur for her green card then left him broken hearted. How low can she go? Andrew Zito
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Sam Franklin"
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 06:26
Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 06:26
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"Andrew Zito" <> This lesbo used John McArthur for her green card then left him broken hearted. How low can she go? > What can you expect from a rug-muncher?
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "jr"
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 06:05
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 06:05
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"The General Secretary position was offer to me,
regardless of my personal opinion on the upcoming
election presidential election." (Beatriz Marinello)
Beatriz spills the beans in her own words.
She is prepared to sell out the USCF in return
for a promise from the Ilyumzhinov camp to become
General Secretary of FIDE.
It is shameful for this woman to represent the
United States in any capacity with our dues money.
She's just another freeloader on the gravy train.
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "The Masked Bish
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:06
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:06
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>Beatriz Marinello wants to be elected as FIDE General Secretary for the Americas. < Must be for those great medical benefits. TMB
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Stan Booz"
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:08
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:08
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Beatriz is a strong woman who's willing to stand up against Goichberg, Schultz, Tanner and Channing. She's also willing to stand up against Bessel Kok and supports Kirsan Ilyumzhinov. She's entitled to change her mind and negotiate the best deal. It's a free country. She should be praised for the decision to support FIDE and she should be given the FIDE General Secretary position.
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Joel Channing"
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 22:27
Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 22:27
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Fuck her! So what? She's nothing but a bitch.
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "parrthenon@cs.c
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:03
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:03
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FROM THE FIDE NEWSGROUP Date:5/19/2006 8:47:51 AM Pacific Standard Time From:p944dc@bellsouth.net Reply-to:fide-chess@yahoogroups.com I think most of the free world is done trying to think of what to expect the murderer in charge of Kalmykia and FIDE will do next. We simply want him gone. >He's going to win...and USCF will get nothing.> (Eric Johnson) Is that really the issue? I see the issue as one of the USCF needing to work to remove a corrupt official from the world chess body because: 1) Within the chess world he has ruined the status of chess and FIDE's titles, and 2) In the "real world" he has at least abetted, if not outright committed, murder and is an oppressive dictator who has aligned himself with leaders of terrorist states. My beef with Marinello is that she accepted a nomination under false pretences when she knew she was not going to live up to the standards that prompted the nomination. She should have stated up front that she was neutral" in egards to the upcoming election. She did not. I see that as deceitful. If she ever runs for anything USCF related again she can forget my and plenty other members' votes. She is done. I used to be a strong supporter of hers. No more. Steve in Tennessee
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "samsloan"
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:55
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:55
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> My beef with Marinello is that she accepted a nomination > under false pretences when she knew she was not going > to live up to the standards that prompted the nomination. > > She should have stated up front that she was neutral" in > egards to the upcoming election. She did not. I see that as > deceitful. If she ever runs for anything USCF related again > she can forget my and plenty other members' votes. > > She is done. I used to be a strong supporter of hers. No more. > > Steve in Tennessee This posting is especially noteworthy and significant because Steve in Tennessee has in fact been the strongest supporter over the longest period of time of Beatriz Marinello. He supported her through the Natrol Deal and all the other bad deals she made but apparently this time she went too far. Sam Sloan
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Fred Flanders"
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:46
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:46
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"samsloan" <> He supported her through the Natrol Deal and all the other bad deals > she made but apparently this time she went too far. > > Apparently she bit off more than she could chew. And that's saying alot, since Beatriz can chew the rug with the best of them (dykes).
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Ray Gordon"
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:15
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:15
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Dykes chew? I thought they suck?
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "Dick Savage"
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 07:03
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 07:03
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"Ray Gordon" <> Dykes chew? I thought they suck? > They chew the chocha, suck the snapper, munch the rug, lick the clit. You need to learn these things if you want to make a woman happy.
Re: Beatriz Marinello defects to the Other Side
Author: "parrthenon@cs.c
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:34
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:34
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EXCERPT OF LETTER FROM KARPOV'S MANAGER IN AMERICA With your recent open letter, which is now being used by the Ilyumzhinov campaign to help its efforts to defeat the candidate endorsed by USCF, you clearly violated the above principles. We all respect your right to have a personal opinion of the FIDE election. But as an Executive Board member, when you decided you could not support the candidate unanimously endorsed by the Executive Board (including yourself), you should have offered to withdraw your candidacy for the FIDE position for which the Board had endorsed you. Instead you are appealing to other nations in FIDE to overrule the decision of your own federation. This is very improper. I believe that you should immediately resign from the USCF Executive Board. Then you will be free to appropriately express your personal opinions about FIDE anywhere you wish. Thank you and good luck with your personal chess achievements. Mikhail Korenman
Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "Rob"
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:26
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:26
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parrthenon@cs.com wrote: > EXCERPT OF LETTER FROM KARPOV'S MANAGER IN AMERICA > > With your recent open letter, which is now being used by the > Ilyumzhinov campaign to help its efforts to defeat the candidate > endorsed by USCF, you clearly violated the above principles. We all > respect your right to have a personal opinion of the FIDE election. But > as an Executive Board member, when you decided you could not support > the candidate unanimously endorsed by the Executive Board (including > yourself), you should have offered to withdraw your candidacy for the > FIDE position for which the Board had endorsed you. Instead you are > appealing to other nations in FIDE to overrule the decision of your own > federation. This is very improper. > > I believe that you should immediately resign from the USCF Executive > Board. Then you will be free to appropriately express your personal > opinions about FIDE anywhere you wish. > > Thank you and good luck with your personal chess achievements. > > Mikhail Korenman I believe Beatriz Marinello should resign from the USCF board. If you agree, Please sign below: Rob Mitchell
Re: Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "Ray Gordon"
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:14
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:14
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I agree. Beatriz should resign immediately.
Re: Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "parrthenon@cs.c
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:20
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:20
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ADD TWO NAMES TO THE LIST
l. Larry Parr
2. GM Larry Evans (he authorized me to append his name)
We deplore the name-calling and personal slurs.
Our reasons are based purely on her performance on the
Executive Board. GM Evans adds that she accepted his offer
for an interview but then declined "on the advice of her lawyer."
Re: Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "Dick Savage"
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:29
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:29
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"Ray Gordon" <> I agree. Beatriz should resign immediately. > The back-stabbing dyke should be flushed out of the USCF
Re: Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "Dick Savage"
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:37
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:37
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<parrthenon@ she accepted his offer for an interview but then declined "on the advice of her lawyer." > Her lawyer is some other knuckle-dragging, hairy-chested, mustachioed lezbo.
Re: Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "Rob"
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:29
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 11:29
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> > I believe that you should immediately resign from the USCF Executive > > Board. Then you will be free to appropriately express your personal > > opinions about FIDE anywhere you wish. > > > > Thank you and good luck with your personal chess achievements. > > > > Mikhail Korenman > > I believe Beatriz Marinello should resign from the USCF board. If you > agree, Please sign below: > > 1. Rob Mitchell > 2. Larry Parr > > 3. GM Larry Evans (he authorized me to append his name) > > We deplore the name-calling and personal slurs. > > Our reasons are based purely on her performance on the > Executive Board. GM Evans adds that she accepted his offer > for an interview but then declined "on the advice of her lawyer."
Re: Open Call for Beatriz Marinello To Resign from USCF
Author: "parrthenon@cs.c
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:13
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 09:13
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JOEL CHANNING AT USCF FORUM >I believe Beatriz Marinello should resign from the USCF board.> Rob Mitchell USCF has a policy that makes sense to me. The Board has not been known as the "Policy Board" for no reason. That policy is that official USCF positions are established by the "Policy Board." (It's not called the "Suggestion Board.") One can make a high sounding case for individual conscience or one can point out that the Secretary of State of the United States serves at the pleasure of the Chief Executive and, whether she believes in it or not, she can be fired for not adhering to the President's policy. If USCF didn't have this policy we could have seven different policies, in other words, chaos. -- Joel Channing Posted: Sun Jun 04, 2006 5:07 am
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