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Started by donr@harpo.wh.at
Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:00
HDCD
Author: donr@harpo.wh.at
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:00
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 1995 00:00
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> From: "Steve Marshall@CONTINENTAL INSURANCE COMPANY > (SMARSH1 @ CDCNOTES)" <uscdcbk3@ibmmail.com> > > Anyone out there is aware of the new HDCD standard? CD made using this > > process sound really good. They are true 20-bit CDs. > > > i have not heard of this. > The only one I've heard is the new Neil Young CD, & (to quote Neil on > this one) > it sounds like a "piece of crap" quality-wise... Sorry my reply is about 2 weeks late.... HDCD ("High Definition Compatible Digital") was invented by Keith Johnson (recording engineer for the audiophile label "Reference Recordings") and members of Pacific Microsonics - a small California electronics design company. It was born of Johnson's frustration with even the present "state-of the art" digital recording process. It is **NOT** a true 20-bit CD. Only the loudest sample uses all 16 bits in a digital sample. The lower the level, the more unused bits there will be in a particular sample. What HDCD does is to use these unused bits to provide more high frequency detail. How they do this is anybody's guess because Pacific Microsonics is understandably non-committal about their patented technology. Even standard playback of an HDCD-encoded disc is said to be superior to a non-encoded one. But the full benefit can only be realized with HDCD decoding, as well. Up to very recently, only Reference Recordings CD's have been encoded, due to a lack of available encoders for other CD manufacturers. HDCD decoding equipment has been available for approximately 6 months or more, with more companies offering it as time goes by. The audiophile publication "The Absolute sound" has conducted its first listening tests of HDCD CD's. 3 reviewers were involved. One was wildly enthusiastic, one was mildly so, and one (the Editor Harry Pearson) was somewhat skeptical. What needs to be done is to manufacture a CD with both standard and HDCD encoded tracks of the same recording. Only then can the true measure of the process be known. I agree with TAS Editor Pearson's statement that (paraphrasing): 'HDCD is only a band-aid, at best. It may provide some improvement but true high-fidelity CD playback will only occur with a larger digital word (20 to 24 bits) and a MUCH higher sampling rate.' (In effect, the CD equivalent to 1/2 speed mastering for vinyl). I hope this explanation helps... Don Roderick
Re: HDCD
Author: gabe@panix.com (
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:00
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 1995 00:00
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In article <40et9i$qhb@agate.berkeley.edu>, Donald J Roderick <donr@harpo.wh.att.com> wrote: >How they do this is anybody's guess because Pacific Microsonics is >understandably non-committal about their patented technology. How they do this can be learned by anyone who wishes to go and get a copy of the published PCT document, available as a matter of public record, to anyone taking the time to order it. >Even standard playback of an HDCD-encoded disc is said to be superior >to a non-encoded one. But the full benefit can only be realized with >HDCD decoding, as well. Playing back an HDCD-encoded disc on a non-HDCD deocder results in markedly inferior sound quality, mainly caused by the reduced dynamic range resulting from HDCD's audio compression. >The audiophile publication "The Absolute sound" has conducted its >first listening tests of HDCD CD's. 3 reviewers were involved. One >was wildly enthusiastic, one was mildly so, and one (the Editor Harry >Pearson) was somewhat skeptical. The only listening test that will be of any value will be a comparison of a) a live microphone feed to b) an HDCD system, c) a state-of-the-art non-HDCD 24-bit A/D + noise shaping. >What needs to be done is to manufacture a CD with both standard and >HDCD encoded tracks of the same recording. Only then can the true >measure of the process be known. Precisely. Funny, isn't it, how PM has not done this. Perhaps they know something we don't? :-) >I agree with TAS Editor Pearson's statement that (paraphrasing): 'HDCD >is only a band-aid, at best. It may provide some improvement but true >high-fidelity CD playback will only occur with a larger digital word >(20 to 24 bits) and a MUCH higher sampling rate.' If we do ever raise the sampling rate, the added benefit will probably come not so much from frequency response, but rather from dynamic range. Whereas now we use noise shaping to place the dither into regions of the bandlimited spectrum where our ears are less sensitive, with a higher sampling rate we should be able to place the dither into regions where our ears are completely insensitive. In other words, move dither out of the audible passband altogether. Gabe Wiener Dir., Quintessential Sound, Inc. |"I am terrified at the thought Recording-Mastering-Restoration (212)586-4200 | that so much hideous and bad PGM Early Music Recordings ---> (800)997-1750 | music may be put on records gabe@panix.com http://www.panix.com/~gabe | forever." --Sir Arthur Sullivan
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