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Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:41
The essence of Cute
Author: Daniel Silevitch
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:41
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I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html People with cats might also appreciate this: http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html -dms
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Daniel R. Reitma
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:04
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:16:43 GMT, Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: >Awwww.... >What is it about baby animals, of many species, that triggers our "soooo >cute" reflex? IIRC, Gould thought it was because the proportions resembled human neoteny. Dan, ad nauseam
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Kip Williams
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:22
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Daniel Silevitch wrote: > What is it about baby animals, of many species, that triggers our "soooo > cute" reflex? Big eyes, large head, soft fur. And, of course, props. Kip W
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: djheydt@kithrup.
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:05
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In article <slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu>, Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: >I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html > >People with cats might also appreciate this: >http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html Oh, well, if you want *cute*: http://www.lpzoo.com/articles/new_arrivals/index.html Dorothy J. Heydt Albany, California djheydt@kithrup.com
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Daniel Silevitch
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:28
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:05:57 GMT, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: > In article <slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu>, > Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: >>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >>http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html >> >>People with cats might also appreciate this: >>http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html > > Oh, well, if you want *cute*: > > http://www.lpzoo.com/articles/new_arrivals/index.html I saw the baby gorilla at the Lincoln Park zoo when it was just a few weeks days old (last summer). I haven't been back there since; maybe it's time to for another visit. Gorilla photo here: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/gorillas.jpg (apologies for the sucky lighting; this was the best of a poor lot of pictures) The sand cat kitten certainly is cute, though. -dms
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Karl Johanson"
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10
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"Daniel Silevitch" <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote in message news:slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu... >I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: > http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html > > People with cats might also appreciate this: > http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html Both quite good. Thank you. I won't say that this photo is cuter, but it is pretty far up there on the scale. http://members.shaw.ca/karljohanson/Cute.htm Karl Johanson
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Daniel Silevitch
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:16
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:12 GMT, Karl Johanson <karljohanson@shaw.ca> wrote: > "Daniel Silevitch" <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote in message > news:slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu... >>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html >> >> People with cats might also appreciate this: >> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html > > Both quite good. Thank you. I won't say that this photo is cuter, but it > is pretty far up there on the scale. > > http://members.shaw.ca/karljohanson/Cute.htm Awwww.... What is it about baby animals, of many species, that triggers our "soooo cute" reflex? -dms
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Marilee J. Layma
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:00
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:41:07 GMT, Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: >I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html We see pictures of Tai Shan frequently here; I particularly like the ones where he's playing with Mom. >People with cats might also appreciate this: >http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html Ah, our adolescent cheetahs! -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Marilee J. Layma
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:03
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:12 GMT, "Karl Johanson" <karljohanson@shaw.ca> wrote: >"Daniel Silevitch" <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote in message >news:slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu... >>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html >> >> People with cats might also appreciate this: >> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html > >Both quite good. Thank you. I won't say that this photo is cuter, but it >is pretty far up there on the scale. > >http://members.shaw.ca/karljohanson/Cute.htm I thought that was going to be chickens! I only count 9 total, though. I was thinking the mom was in the front with the kids in the trunk, but I only see 8 in the trunk. -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Petrea Mitchell
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:36
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At Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:22:35 -0500, Kip Williams <kiptw@comcast.net> strode forth and proclaimed: > Daniel Silevitch wrote: > > What is it about baby animals, of many species, that triggers our "soooo > > cute" reflex? > > Big eyes, large head, soft fur. And, of course, props. And the short little noses. Whole minefields of cuteness here: http://www.kittenbreak.com/ and http://www.puppybreak.com/ -- / Petrea Mitchell <|> <|> <pravn@m5p.com> <mitchep@osm.com> "If it can't be done quickly and with a lot of collateral damage, it isn't worth doing." ---James Nicoll
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Amethyst"
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:53
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Dorothy J Heydt wrote: > Exactly. Just as (as T. E. WHite and others have pointed out) > all embryos look very much alike, so baby critters (particularly > mammals) look to some extent like human babies, whom we're > programmed to like and protect. Of course that programming, like > much of our other programming, can be overridden. Hmmmm, something to think about. Some, someway, my programming was changed to "cherish old cats that few others would want".
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: djheydt@kithrup.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:10
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In article <m7er129prt29dfk24ci1oabqrloump3e2o@4ax.com>, Daniel R. Reitman <dreitman@spiritone.com> wrote: >On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:16:43 GMT, Daniel Silevitch ><dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: > >>Awwww.... > >>What is it about baby animals, of many species, that triggers our "soooo >>cute" reflex? > >IIRC, Gould thought it was because the proportions resembled human >neoteny. Exactly. Just as (as T. E. WHite and others have pointed out) all embryos look very much alike, so baby critters (particularly mammals) look to some extent like human babies, whom we're programmed to like and protect. Of course that programming, like much of our other programming, can be overridden. Dorothy J. Heydt Albany, California djheydt@kithrup.com
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Daniel Silevitch
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 01:17
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 20:00:45 -0500, Marilee J Layman <marilee@mjlayman.com> wrote: > On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:41:07 GMT, Daniel Silevitch ><dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: > >>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >>http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html > > We see pictures of Tai Shan frequently here; I particularly like the > ones where he's playing with Mom. Unfortunately, the pandas weren't all that active for the 15 or so minutes that I was there. Tai Shan shifted position on his tree branch a couple of times, Mom rolled over in her sleep once, and Dad sat up once or twice. Other than that, it was panda Nap Time. -dms
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Karl Johanson"
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:48
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"Marilee J. Layman" <marilee@mjlayman.com> wrote in message news:eqvr12prlt0ii062u881o8e438ct4fiaj2@4ax.com... > On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:12 GMT, "Karl Johanson" > <karljohanson@shaw.ca> wrote: > >>"Daniel Silevitch" <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote in message >>news:slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu... >>>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >>> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html >>> >>> People with cats might also appreciate this: >>> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html >> >>Both quite good. Thank you. I won't say that this photo is cuter, but >>it >>is pretty far up there on the scale. >> >>http://members.shaw.ca/karljohanson/Cute.htm > > I thought that was going to be chickens! > > I only count 9 total, though. I was thinking the mom was in the front > with the kids in the trunk, but I only see 8 in the trunk. Beside the three puppies on the left is the 9th one. He's harder to see than the others. You just see part of his black snoot. Karl Johanson
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: djheydt@kithrup.
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 05:08
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In article <1142830418.453069.258360@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, Amethyst <adoptsoldcats@aol.com> wrote: > >Dorothy J Heydt wrote: >> Exactly. Just as (as T. E. WHite and others have pointed out) >> all embryos look very much alike, so baby critters (particularly >> mammals) look to some extent like human babies, whom we're >> programmed to like and protect. Of course that programming, like >> much of our other programming, can be overridden. > >Hmmmm, something to think about. Some, someway, my programming was >changed to "cherish old cats that few others would want". > But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. My cat Promethea will be nineteen any day now and she's still cute. Dorothy J. Heydt Albany, California djheydt@kithrup.com
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Philip Chee
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:24
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:41:07 CST, Daniel Silevitch wrote: > I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: > http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html Not if that Panda's name is Genma. Phil -- Philip Chee <philip@aleytys.pc.my>, <philip.chee@gmail.com> http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. [ ]What is a CRC and why did it fail? - PKZip FAQ * TagZilla 0.059
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Keith F. Lynch"
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:16
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Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: > But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes > and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, with odor, or anything else. -- Keith F. Lynch - http://keithlynch.net/ Please see http://keithlynch.net/email.html before emailing me.
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Daniel Silevitch
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:42
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On 20 Mar 2006 23:16:50 -0500, Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote: > Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > > What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > > I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, > with odor, or anything else. Well, I was going to pick one of H.P. Lovecraft's creations, but someone sent me this URL this morning: http://www.upl.cs.wisc.edu/~kimuchi/cthulhu.html and I had to drop that approach. Komodo dragon, perhaps? -dms
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: djheydt@kithrup.
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 04:51
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In article <dvnuni$bdn$1@panix1.panix.com>, Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote: >Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > >What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > >I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, >with odor, or anything else. No contest. A baby parakeet. Ugliest thing you can imagine. Dorothy J. Heydt Albany, California djheydt@kithrup.com
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Mark Atwood
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:20
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"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> writes: > Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > > What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? Hagfish -- Mark Atwood When you do things right, people won't be sure me@mark.atwood.name you've done anything at all. http://mark.atwood.name/ http://fallenpegasus.livejournal.com/
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: whheydt@kithrup.
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 05:46
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In article <m2r74wqspl.fsf@amsu.fallenpegasus.com>, Mark Atwood <me@mark.atwood.name> wrote: >"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> writes: >> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >>> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >>> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. >> >> What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > >Hagfish Opposums are pretty ugly as mammals go. -- Hal Heydt Albany, CA My dime, my opinions.
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Alter S. Reiss"
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:14
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On 20 Mar 2006 23:16:50 -0500, Keith F. Lynch wrote: > Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > > What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > > I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, > with odor, or anything else. My vote would probably be for the blob sculpin (Psychrolutes phrictus). You can make similar arguments for any number of other deep water fish. In addition, I think that Hellbenders (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis), various giant earthworms, Marabou Storks (Leptoptilos crumeniferus), and the Matamata (Chelus fimbriatus) are kind of hard to see as being particularly cute. Though I wouldn't be surprised if Ursula Vernon could manage. -- *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Sea Wasp
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:00
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Mark Atwood wrote: > "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> writes: > >>Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> >>>But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >>>and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. >> >>What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > > > Hagfish > Or lamprey. We have a winnah. These things are Lovecraftian. -- Sea Wasp /^\ ;;; Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Sea Wasp
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:01
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Alter S. Reiss wrote: > My vote would probably be for the blob sculpin (Psychrolutes phrictus). > You can make similar arguments for any number of other deep water fish. In > addition, I think that Hellbenders (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis), I think the hellbenders and other similar giant salamanders are in the "ugly, but in a cute way" category. Mark Atwood's suggestion of "hagfish" I think pretty much does it all. -- Sea Wasp /^\ ;;; Live Journal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/seawasp/
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Marilee J. Layma
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:54
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On 20 Mar 2006 23:16:50 -0500, "Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote: >Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > >What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? Roadkill >I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, >with odor, or anything else. -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Michael Hopcrof
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:54
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Keith F. Lynch wrote: > What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? "Whatever it is, it's right behind you! RUN!"
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Karl Johanson"
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 02:07
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"Keith F. Lynch" <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote in message news:dvnuni$bdn$1@panix1.panix.com... > Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > > What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? Spiders for me, I'd say. Why? Just a phobia. I'm no fan of liver flukes either, but they don't give me the quaking goombies. Karl Johanson
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: Petrea Mitchell
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:08
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At 20 Mar 2006 23:16:50 -0500, Keith F. Lynch <kfl@keithlynch.net> strode forth and proclaimed: > What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > > I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, > with odor, or anything else. My vote's gotta go to the banana slug. Redwoods and sequoias aren't the only things that grow to majestic sizes in the forests of northern California. -- / Petrea Mitchell <|> <|> <pravn@m5p.com> <mitchep@osm.com> "Is science supposed to smell like banana creme?" ---MST3K "A watched plot never thickens." ---Boris Badenov
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Robin Johnson"
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:04
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How about some active panda cubs - see http://www.channel4.com/news/special-reports/special-reports-storypage.jsp?id17 I've just noticed this dates back to 10 March, so apologies if everyone has seen them! Robin Johnson
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Alter S. Reiss"
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 09:33
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:01:42 GMT, Sea Wasp wrote: > Alter S. Reiss wrote: > >> My vote would probably be for the blob sculpin (Psychrolutes phrictus). >> You can make similar arguments for any number of other deep water fish. In >> addition, I think that Hellbenders (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis), > > I think the hellbenders and other similar giant salamanders are in > the "ugly, but in a cute way" category. Mark Atwood's suggestion of > "hagfish" I think pretty much does it all. Blob Sculpin: http://www.afsc.noaa.gov/race/media/photo_gallery/photos/Cottidae/psyphrthree.jpg Hagfish: http://www.umich.edu/~bio440/fieldtrips98/HAGFISH.JPG Although, I suppose that while the blob sculpin would win an ugly competition, there might be grounds for "cute sort of ugly." So, I suppose I'll switch my vote to the Humpback Angler: http://www.oceans.gov.au/norfanz/images/humpbackangler.jpg (Of course, there are other choices that are good. Marabou Storks and Waldraaps, Isopods and hornets, so on, and so forth.) -- *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: jdnicoll@panix.c
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:37
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In article <1221ft27b9v1f49@corp.supernews.com>, Petrea Mitchell <pravn@parkstreet.m5p.com> wrote: >At 20 Mar 2006 23:16:50 -0500, >Keith F. Lynch <kfl@keithlynch.net> strode forth and proclaimed: > >> What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? >> >> I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, >> with odor, or anything else. > >My vote's gotta go to the banana slug. Redwoods and sequoias aren't the >only things that grow to majestic sizes in the forests of northern >California. > The most Lovecraftian experience I ever had was the first time I saw a banana slug crawling along a sidewalk in Sausalito (Specificially along Carlos Ave, which is already a bit of an oddity for that town). -- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/ http://www.livejournal.com/users/james_nicoll
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: ames@deltrak.dem
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:08
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In article <dvrqvc$88m$1@reader2.panix.com> jdnicoll@panix.com "James Nicoll" writes: > The most Lovecraftian experience I ever had was the first time > I saw a banana slug crawling along a sidewalk in Sausalito > (Specificially along Carlos Ave, which is already a bit of an > oddity for that town). There must be a style joke in there but I'd rather not touch it. Sidebar:- Logically, if anyone had a respectably Lovecraftian experience, they'd tend to suppress it with amnesia. Nar? -- Andrew Stephenson
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: jdnicoll@panix.c
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 17:58
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In article <1143043690snz@deltrak.demon.co.uk>, Andrew Stephenson <ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk> wrote: >In article <dvrqvc$88m$1@reader2.panix.com> > jdnicoll@panix.com "James Nicoll" writes: > >> The most Lovecraftian experience I ever had was the first time >> I saw a banana slug crawling along a sidewalk in Sausalito >> (Specificially along Carlos Ave, which is already a bit of an >> oddity for that town). > >There must be a style joke in there but I'd rather not touch it. > The oddity is the numbering. Most of the streets in Saualito start their numbering down by the bay (I think: it could be up on the hill) but Carlos Avenue does it the other way round. This is apparently a great surprise to local cab drivers, whose faith in the Unity of Sausalito Numbering Systems is apparently very compelling. -- http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/ http://www.livejournal.com/users/james_nicoll
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: "Marcus L. Rowla
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:37
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In message <slrne1rbgq.10a.dmsilev@bardeen.local>, Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> writes >On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:12 GMT, Karl Johanson <karljohanson@shaw.ca> wrote: >> "Daniel Silevitch" <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote in message >> news:slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu... >>>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >>> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html >>> >>> People with cats might also appreciate this: >>> http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html >> >> Both quite good. Thank you. I won't say that this photo is cuter, but it >> is pretty far up there on the scale. >> >> http://members.shaw.ca/karljohanson/Cute.htm > >Awwww.... > >What is it about baby animals, of many species, that triggers our "soooo >cute" reflex? http://homepage.ntlworld.com/forgottenfutures/snakes/kids3.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/forgottenfutures/snakes/kids4.jpg http://homepage.ntlworld.com/forgottenfutures/snakes/kids1.jpg I couldn't possibly comment... Apologies to dmsilev - I previously sent this as email when I meant it to be a comment. -- Marcus L. Rowland http://www.forgottenfutures.com/ LJ:ffutures http://homepage.ntlworld.com/forgottenfutures/ Forgotten Futures - The Scientific Romance Role Playing Game "Life is chaos; Chaos is life; Control is an illusion." - Andromeda
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: nancyl@panix.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:48
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In article <IwDwtx.EtF@kithrup.com>, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >In article <slrne1r2d2.mf.dmsilev@wireless-219-181.uchicago.edu>, >Daniel Silevitch <dmsilev@uchicago.edu> wrote: >>I believe I've discovered the Platonic ideal of cuteness: >>http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_4.html >> >>People with cats might also appreciate this: >>http://ri22.uchicago.edu/~dmsilev/wash_zoo/pages/page_6.html > >Oh, well, if you want *cute*: > >http://www.lpzoo.com/articles/new_arrivals/index.html That is a remarkably cute sand cat kitten. The cutest thing I've seen lately was somewhere on livejournal--I'm hoping someone else will remember where to find the link. The picture was of a very small kitten and someone's hand--not only was the kitten doing the great big eyes thing, it had its tiny little paw on the person's thumb. The only conceivable response was to give that kitten everything it wants. -- Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: nancyl@panix.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:50
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In article <IwEGI2.J8q@kithrup.com>, Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: > >Exactly. Just as (as T. E. WHite and others have pointed out) >all embryos look very much alike, so baby critters (particularly >mammals) look to some extent like human babies, whom we're >programmed to like and protect. Of course that programming, like >much of our other programming, can be overridden. It might also be absent in some cases. -- Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: nancyl@panix.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:57
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In article <i0ug7snb507b.xz9nnrjs1ki6.dlg@40tude.net>, Alter S. Reiss <asreiss@gmail.com> wrote: >On 20 Mar 2006 23:16:50 -0500, Keith F. Lynch wrote: > >> Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >>> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >>> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. >> >> What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? >> >> I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, >> with odor, or anything else. > >My vote would probably be for the blob sculpin (Psychrolutes phrictus). >You can make similar arguments for any number of other deep water fish. In >addition, I think that Hellbenders (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis), various >giant earthworms, Marabou Storks (Leptoptilos crumeniferus), and the >Matamata (Chelus fimbriatus) are kind of hard to see as being particularly >cute. > >Though I wouldn't be surprised if Ursula Vernon could manage. > Quite possibly--her work is delightful. Home page: http://www.metalandmagic.com/ An illustrated story about cute evil: http://www.webcomicsnation.com/uvernon/littlecreature/series.php?view=archive&chapterF02&mpe=1&step=1 The result of her taking a look at some surrealism: http://www.metalandmagic.com/modules.php?set_albumName=weirdfruit&id=bitingpear&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_photo.php -- Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: nancyl@panix.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:00
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:00
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In article <aar31kq7m9nf$.lvi52n8f2m7l$.dlg@40tude.net>, Alter S. Reiss <asreiss@gmail.com> wrote: >On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 13:01:42 GMT, Sea Wasp wrote: > >> Alter S. Reiss wrote: >> >>> My vote would probably be for the blob sculpin (Psychrolutes phrictus). >>> You can make similar arguments for any number of other deep water fish. In >>> addition, I think that Hellbenders (Cryptobranchus alleganiensis), >> >> I think the hellbenders and other similar giant salamanders are in >> the "ugly, but in a cute way" category. Mark Atwood's suggestion of >> "hagfish" I think pretty much does it all. > >Blob Sculpin: >http://www.afsc.noaa.gov/race/media/photo_gallery/photos/Cottidae/psyphrthree.jpg Unfair--most of us become considerably less cute when we're dead. >Hagfish: >http://www.umich.edu/~bio440/fieldtrips98/HAGFISH.JPG > >Although, I suppose that while the blob sculpin would win an ugly >competition, there might be grounds for "cute sort of ugly." > >So, I suppose I'll switch my vote to the > >Humpback Angler: >http://www.oceans.gov.au/norfanz/images/humpbackangler.jpg That one wouldn't be much improved by being alive, I think. -- Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: nancyl@panix.com
Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 14:02
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In article <dvnuni$bdn$1@panix1.panix.com>, Keith F. Lynch <kfl@KeithLynch.net> wrote: >Dorothy J Heydt <djheydt@kithrup.com> wrote: >> But even old cats look cute. It's in details of their face shapes >> and eye settings that don't change as the grow older. > >What is the *least* cute kind of animal, and why? > >I'm only counting appearance, not learned associations with behavior, >with odor, or anything else. As a general thing, parasites aren't especially good-looking. There's a book called _Parasite Rex_--the pictures were a clue for where the aesthetic for Alien came from. -- Nancy Lebovitz http://www.nancybuttons.com http://livejournal.com/users/nancylebov My two favorite colors are "Oooooh" and "SHINY!".
Re: The essence of Cute
Author: goldfarb@OCF.Ber
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:30
Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:30
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In article <e0gnjj$q6m$1@reader1.panix.com>, Nancy Lebovitz <nancyl@panix.com> wrote: >The cutest thing I've seen lately was somewhere on livejournal--I'm >hoping someone else will remember where to find the link. > >The picture was of a very small kitten and someone's hand--not only >was the kitten doing the great big eyes thing, it had its tiny little >paw on the person's thumb. The only conceivable response was to give >that kitten everything it wants. I do hope everyone reading this thread knows about http://cuteoverload.com/. (Sounds like that photo ought to be submitted.) -- David Goldfarb | "Questions are a burden to others. goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu | Answers are a prison for oneself." goldfarb@csua.berkeley.edu | -- _The Prisoner_, "Dance of the Dead"
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