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Carrie Carney wrote:
> Less than 2 days to go, we're almost packed and ready.  Last question:  Has
> Disney started carrying Coke Zero yet, or will I still need to bring my own?
>
> Thanks gang!
>
> Carrie
> N.O.Mommy
>
>

Don't know, but the ingredients listed on caffeine free diet coke seem
to be exactly the same. I did a side by side at home and they look and
taste the same. Maybe it's a marketing technique. My theory is they're
just slowly switching the name over.
Julie
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"Derek Janssen" <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Julie wrote:
>>
>> Don't know, but the ingredients listed on caffeine free diet coke seem to
>> be exactly the same. I did a side by side at home and they look and taste
>> the same. Maybe it's a marketing technique. My theory is they're just
>> slowly switching the name over.
>
> As I understand it:
>
> A) Ever wonder what happened to that "New Coke" formula we were all
> laughing about in the 80's?  And after it was retired, why Diet Coke
> suddenly started advertising its "new formula" we'd drink "just for the
> taste of it"?  Yyyep.  Believe it or not.
>
> B) Coke Zero was originally intended to be cash in on Pepsi One (which
> used a Splenda diet formula for the syrup, but condensed down the water
> ratio to make it taste more like "real" cola), while bringing in a
> back-to-Classic-Coke formula taste for their Diet audience.
>
> Hate to admit that Pepsi One hit a little closer to their goal, but a can
> of new Cherry Coke Zero ain't so bad, either.  :)
>
> Derek Janssen
> ejanss1@verizon.net

Speaking as a former Coca-Cola addict, I have never been able to stand the
taste of Diet Coke.  Coke Zero tastes significantly more like regular Coke.
Just my particular preference, I'm sure, but I'll stand by the fact that
they are very different.  And I suppose I'll still have to pack a 12 pack.
Thanks Julie and Derek!

Carrie
N.O.Mommy

Derek Janssen wrote:
> Julie wrote:
>>
>> Don't know, but the ingredients listed on caffeine free diet coke seem
>> to be exactly the same. I did a side by side at home and they look and
>> taste the same. Maybe it's a marketing technique. My theory is they're
>> just slowly switching the name over.
>
> As I understand it:
>
> A) Ever wonder what happened to that "New Coke" formula we were all
> laughing about in the 80's?  And after it was retired, why Diet Coke
> suddenly started advertising its "new formula" we'd drink "just for the
> taste of it"?  Yyyep.  Believe it or not.
>
> B) Coke Zero was originally intended to be cash in on Pepsi One (which
> used a Splenda diet formula for the syrup, but condensed down the water
> ratio to make it taste more like "real" cola), while bringing in a
> back-to-Classic-Coke formula taste for their Diet audience.
>
> Hate to admit that Pepsi One hit a little closer to their goal, but a
> can of new Cherry Coke Zero ain't so bad, either.  :)

The rumor is that the formula for New Coke was actually the same formula
for Diet Coke except sweetened with corn syrup instead of aspartame.
Because Diet Coke uses a much higher ratio of syrup to water to increase
its sweet flavor, this also made New Coke taste much sweeter than Coke
Classic, and thus more like Pepsi.  What is interesting is that around
the same time (I'm not sure if it was right before or after), the
Coca-Cola "Classic" formula was altered to be sweetened with corn syrup
instead of sugar.

Although the whole New Coke thing is shrouded in secrecy and surrounded
by rumors, it seems that where there's smoke there's fire, and whatever
they did, it was to boost profits.  It seems unlikely that Coca-Cola
could take away much market share from Pepsi because the purchase of the
sodas had less to do with flavor and more to do with lifestyle.  Coke's
only option was to reduce costs.

Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
soft drink.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...

>
> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int he
> world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was quite
> good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t find a
> diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden soft
> drink.
>
> --
>
> - RODNEY
>
> Next WDW Vacation?
> Who knows...

When I gave up Coke, the only diet soft drinks I could stand were Diet Dr.
Pepper and Diet Barq's.  Of course, now I adore Coke Zero.  Diet Coke has
always been horrible to me, but there are millions who love it.

Carrie
N.O.Mommy, who according to the Rodney T. Grill Countdown
has 1 day, 6 hours and 48 minutes to go!

On Jan 30, 3:35 pm, "Carrie Carney" <Cccarn...@cox.net> wrote:
> Less than 2 days to go, we're almost packed and ready.  Last question:  Has
> Disney started carrying Coke Zero yet, or will I still need to bring my own?
>
> Thanks gang!
>
> Carrie
> N.O.Mommy

Carrie,

Currently, you'll have a much easier time finding Coke Zero than
Caffeine Free Diet Coke -- but I've been told that Coke Zero contains
caffeine...
Where are you staying? I may have first hand info for you :)

EG

The only Coke Zero product I like it the Vanilla. It's a decent vanilla
flavored diet
cola and I can't abide lime diet coke, etc.   Lisa

Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>>he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
>>quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
>>find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
>>soft drink.
>
>
> I thought that for a long time too.  Then a girlfriend got me on Diet
> Coke and Diet Pepsi.  My purchase decision is by what store and what
> brand has the best sale price that week!
>
> Anyhow, after two months of drinking nothing but diet colas, I found
> the taste of the sugar sweetened regular drinks to taste far more foul
> than I ever thought diet sodas tasted.
>
> Now, after ten years of drinking diet, I will, litterally, spit out
> regular Coke or Pepsi because the too sweet taste makes me gag.
>
> Foxtrot
> If you think you hate me from what I write here, check out my blog on my MySpace page:  http://www.myspace.com/bennettron
>
> If you actually think I'm an okay guy, go ahead and add me as your friend if you are active at MySpace.

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
wrote:
>Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was

I am a regular coke drinker but I really like the DC w/lime.  Did they
really discontinue that?

CRB

Julie wrote:
>
> Don't know, but the ingredients listed on caffeine free diet coke seem
> to be exactly the same. I did a side by side at home and they look and
> taste the same. Maybe it's a marketing technique. My theory is they're
> just slowly switching the name over.

As I understand it:

A) Ever wonder what happened to that "New Coke" formula we were all
laughing about in the 80's?  And after it was retired, why Diet Coke
suddenly started advertising its "new formula" we'd drink "just for the
taste of it"?  Yyyep.  Believe it or not.

B) Coke Zero was originally intended to be cash in on Pepsi One (which
used a Splenda diet formula for the syrup, but condensed down the water
ratio to make it taste more like "real" cola), while bringing in a
back-to-Classic-Coke formula taste for their Diet audience.

Hate to admit that Pepsi One hit a little closer to their goal, but a
can of new Cherry Coke Zero ain't so bad, either.  :)

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net

Rudeney wrote:
>
> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
> he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
> quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
> find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
> soft drink.

Diet Coke with Lime is the only reason for Diet Coke to exist.  :)

Still no Coke Zero with Lime (apparently the lemon/lime craze faded
before CZ arrived), but the Vanilla Cokes are still around in Zero form.

Derek Janssen (jury still out on Diet Coke Plus, With Vitamins)
ejanss1@verizon.net

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
wrote:


>
>Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
>quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
>find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
>soft drink.

I thought that for a long time too.  Then a girlfriend got me on Diet
Coke and Diet Pepsi.  My purchase decision is by what store and what
brand has the best sale price that week!

Anyhow, after two months of drinking nothing but diet colas, I found
the taste of the sugar sweetened regular drinks to taste far more foul
than I ever thought diet sodas tasted.

Now, after ten years of drinking diet, I will, litterally, spit out
regular Coke or Pepsi because the too sweet taste makes me gag.

Foxtrot
If you think you hate me from what I write here, check out my blog on my MySpace page:  http://www.myspace.com/bennettron

If you actually think I'm an okay guy, go ahead and add me as your friend if you are active at MySpace.

Carrie Carney wrote:
>
> When I gave up Coke, the only diet soft drinks I could stand were Diet Dr.
> Pepper and Diet Barq's.  Of course, now I adore Coke Zero.  Diet Coke has
> always been horrible to me, but there are millions who love it.

I was always afraid to try Dr. Pepper as a kid--
Namely because I never realized that "Pepper" was just the *name* of the
Coke inventor, and I'd thought it was supposed to be marketing a drink
with some edgy fireball spice to it...

Turned out to be just a variation on cherry-coke, and not quite so
overbearing as the "real" version.  :)

Derek Janssen (and ftr, just what the heck *was* "OK Cola", apart from
some hip-cutesy Gen-X variation on the brandname, like 7-Up's "dnL"?)
ejanss1@verizon.net

I'm with Derek when it comes to coke w/ lime; however, I prefer a
twist of the real thing to added flavor.  I'll tell you what I would
give one of my kids for (almost), a small glass bottle of old Coke....
fresh from an old country store.  Or, gimmee an RC Cola and don't
forget the moonpie.  Oh my, the memories that are flooding back.

To maintain newsgroup integrity....
It used to be that Disney served Coca Cola and Seaworld served Pepsi.
Don't recall what Universal served.  I'm wondering if they are all
still product exclusive?

-Fizzie

On Jan 30, 6:37 pm, Charlie Foxtrot <Bennett6...@msn.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rude...@mickeypics.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
> >he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
> >quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
> >find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
> >soft drink.
>
> I thought that for a long time too.  Then a girlfriend got me on Diet
> Coke and Diet Pepsi.  My purchase decision is by what store and what
> brand has the best sale price that week!
>
> Anyhow, after two months of drinking nothing but diet colas, I found
> the taste of the sugar sweetened regular drinks to taste far more foul
> than I ever thought diet sodas tasted.
>
> Now, after ten years of drinking diet, I will, litterally, spit out
> regular Coke or Pepsi because the too sweet taste makes me gag.
>
> Foxtrot

I drink very little soda at all anymore but my experience has been
very similar to yours. When I first tried the diet colas, I hated
them. After acquiring a taste for them, I now think the regular colas
are just nasty.

I've had a similar experience with coffee. Years ago I was a 2 sugar
and milk coffee drinker. I gradually weaned myself from the sugar so
that now, a coffee with sweetener of any kind is gross. I still do use
a bit of milk or creamer though.

Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>> he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
>> quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
>> find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
>> soft drink.
>
> I thought that for a long time too.  Then a girlfriend got me on Diet
> Coke and Diet Pepsi.  My purchase decision is by what store and what
> brand has the best sale price that week!
>
> Anyhow, after two months of drinking nothing but diet colas, I found
> the taste of the sugar sweetened regular drinks to taste far more foul
> than I ever thought diet sodas tasted.
>
> Now, after ten years of drinking diet, I will, litterally, spit out
> regular Coke or Pepsi because the too sweet taste makes me gag.

I don't drink any sugar-sweetened beverages, but still I have never
acquired a taste for diet sodas.  Even the latest round of
Splenda-sweetened beverages still does not taste good to me.  The only
diet drink that actually tastes decent to me is Fresca (and to keep this
relevant, Fresca is available in many places at WDW).

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...

Carol1235 wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
> wrote:
>> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>> he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
>
> I am a regular coke drinker but I really like the DC w/lime.  Did they
> really discontinue that?

Well, you piqued my interest!  I have not seen it in stores lately, so I
assumed it was gone, but I just checked their website and it's still
listed as a product.  Maybe they just don't carry it in my area.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...

Diet coke with lime tastes so bad to me! I tried to like it too. I stick
with Vanilla Coke Zero when
I gotta have one.   Lisa

Rudeney wrote:
> Carol1235 wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors
>>> int he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime
>>> was
>>
>>
>> I am a regular coke drinker but I really like the DC w/lime.  Did they
>> really discontinue that?
>
>
> Well, you piqued my interest!  I have not seen it in stores lately, so I
> assumed it was gone, but I just checked their website and it's still
> listed as a product.  Maybe they just don't carry it in my area.
>

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:24:40 -0800 (PST), FIZZIE
<BLUEFROGBOOGIE@aol.com> wrote:
>I'm with Derek when it comes to coke w/ lime; however, I prefer a
>twist of the real thing to added flavor.  I'll tell you what I would
>give one of my kids for (almost), a small glass bottle of old Coke....
>fresh from an old country store.  Or, gimmee an RC Cola and don't
>forget the moonpie.  Oh my, the memories that are flooding back.

One of my good friends has an old time coke machine in their house. It
is one where the top slides over to the left to allow access to the
cokes.  Like the old style cabniet record players?   The cokes are
hanging by the tops and then you slide them over and the locking
mechinism is unlocked with coins and you can pull it up and out.
Anyway...Sams Club has those bottled cokes by the case and they always
have their machine filled.  Just sitting in their kitchen.   I'd pay
for them but they have the key in the coin container so they are
always free.   :)

CRB

Carol1235 wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 07:24:40 -0800 (PST), FIZZIE
> <BLUEFROGBOOGIE@aol.com> wrote:
>> I'm with Derek when it comes to coke w/ lime; however, I prefer a
>> twist of the real thing to added flavor.  I'll tell you what I would
>> give one of my kids for (almost), a small glass bottle of old Coke....
>> fresh from an old country store.  Or, gimmee an RC Cola and don't
>> forget the moonpie.  Oh my, the memories that are flooding back.
>
> One of my good friends has an old time coke machine in their house. It
> is one where the top slides over to the left to allow access to the
> cokes.  Like the old style cabniet record players?   The cokes are
> hanging by the tops and then you slide them over and the locking
> mechinism is unlocked with coins and you can pull it up and out.
> Anyway...Sams Club has those bottled cokes by the case and they always
> have their machine filled.  Just sitting in their kitchen.   I'd pay
> for them but they have the key in the coin container so they are
> always free.   :)

Keep in mind that the reason why we reminisce over the great flavor of
Coca-Cola in the original little glass bottles is because back then, it
was sweetened with sugar.  Now, thanks to the US Corn Cartel, it is
sweetened with corn syrup.  With today's formula, any taste difference
among the various bottles and cans is 95% psychological and 5% container
materials.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...

Steve Russo wrote:
>
> I've had a similar experience with coffee. Years ago I was a 2 sugar
> and milk coffee drinker. I gradually weaned myself from the sugar so
> that now, a coffee with sweetener of any kind is gross. I still do use
> a bit of milk or creamer though.

I used to drink my coffee with sugar and cream, until many years ago
when I took a management seminar on how to recruit, interview and hire
employees.  This was over 20 years ago, but it made an impression.  One
part of the class dealt with interpreting a recruit's behavior when
offered a cup of coffee.  There were all of these psychological
interpretations of the different possibilities, but basically,
accepting, sipping, and properly disposing of a cup of black coffee is
the best thing.  I quickly decided I would learn to drink black coffee
and I never went back.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...

"ElastiGirl" <dznyknitter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9e5e7d1f-dbc7-4ac9-81eb-d9aa4ee8db68@z17g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 30, 3:35 pm, "Carrie Carney" <Cccarn...@cox.net> wrote:
> Less than 2 days to go, we're almost packed and ready. Last question: Has
> Disney started carrying Coke Zero yet, or will I still need to bring my
> own?
>
> Thanks gang!
>
> Carrie
> N.O.Mommy

Carrie,

Currently, you'll have a much easier time finding Coke Zero than
Caffeine Free Diet Coke -- but I've been told that Coke Zero contains
caffeine...
Where are you staying? I may have first hand info for you :)

EG

Hi EG - We're staying at the Contemporary.   (And it wouldn't have been me
looking for Caffeine Free anything!!! )  Thanks!

Carrie
N.O.Mommy

"Keane" <keane_radp@tanstaafl.uchicago.edu> wrote in message 
news:h144q3d72ege68mse1012nef31opou0e9p@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:55:09 -0600, "Carrie Carney"
> <Cccarney1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>>Speaking as a former Coca-Cola addict, I have never been able to stand the
>>taste of Diet Coke.  Coke Zero tastes significantly more like regular 
>>Coke.
>>Just my particular preference, I'm sure, but I'll stand by the fact that
>>they are very different.  And I suppose I'll still have to pack a 12 pack.
>>Thanks Julie and Derek!
>
> I was able to use Coke Zero to ween a friend off of her 400 empty
> calorie per day Coke addiction.
>
> Coke Zero does taste much like real Coke, but without the syrupiness
> (if that's a word.)  It tastes so much like real Coke that my Diet
> Coke taste buds don't like the stuff.
>
> (I was at AKL in Decmber, 2006, and was carrying a 12-pack of Zero up
> to my room, when two ladies in the elevator remarked that Zero was the
> "best stuff"...)
>
> Keane
> ===
> When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
> One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
>   - Wishes

Very true about Diet Coke drinkers not liking Coke Zero.  I'll be carrying 
my 12-pack up to my room too, although I'm hearing I might be able to find 
20 ouncers on the grounds...

Carrie
N.O.Mommy 

Ed wrote:
> "Carol1235" <Carol1235@aol.com> wrote
>
>> One of my good friends has an old time coke machine in their house.
>
> If only it had old time Coke in it. Since they changed the formula in 1985
> to "New Coke" and then brought back the "Coke Classic" it has never been the
> same. The original formula was changed and it still isn't what it was. Give
> me Pepsi anyday.

Actually, the formula change had nothing to do with New Coke.  As I
mentioned earlier, it has to do with the fact that they replaced the
cane sugar in Coke with corn syrup.  I couldn't remember when this
happened, but I found it (as expected) on Snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/newcoke.asp

Again, the whole issue with New Coke was a formula consolidation.  The
formulas for Diet Coke and New Coke were identical save for the former
using aspartame as a sweetener and the latter using corn syrup.  The
fact that the Diet Coke formula sweetened with corn syrup made it much
sweeter than "classic" Coke and thus the winner of blind taste tests
against Pepsi were all the better.

Within the Snopes article, there is a very interesting (and relevant to
RADP) quote from Coke's COO:

"The simple fact is that all the time and money and skill poured into
consumer research on the new Coca-Cola could not measure or reveal the
deep and abiding emotional attachment to original Coca-Cola felt by so
many people...The passion for original Coca-Cola — and that is the word
for it, passion — was something that caught us by <NOBR>surprise..."

This is what Disney has created - a passion for its parks.
Unfortunately, they don't always seem to react as well as Coke did when
guests find that passion "betrayed" by cutbacks and blatant attempts to
squeeze more cash out of their pockets without increasing the value.

--

- RODNEY

Next WDW Vacation?
Who knows...

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:41:17 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
wrote:

>Carol1235 wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>>> he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
>>
>> I am a regular coke drinker but I really like the DC w/lime.  Did they
>> really discontinue that?
>
>Well, you piqued my interest!  I have not seen it in stores lately, so I
>assumed it was gone, but I just checked their website and it's still
>listed as a product.  Maybe they just don't carry it in my area.

I don't find it - often - in twelve packs when I'm shopping for my
home supply.  However, I do see it, prominently, in single bottle
displays at convenience stores.

Foxtrot

If you think you hate me from what I write here, check out my blog on my MySpace page:  http://www.myspace.com/bennettron

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On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:16:48 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
wrote:

>Keep in mind that the reason why we reminisce over the great flavor of 
>Coca-Cola in the original little glass bottles is because back then, it 
>was sweetened with sugar.  Now, thanks to the US Corn Cartel, it is 
>sweetened with corn syrup.  With today's formula, any taste difference 
>among the various bottles and cans is 95% psychological and 5% container 
>materials.

You can generally find Coke still made from sugar in any major
hispanic area.  They import it from Mexico.  It's readily
available here in Chicago if you look for it...

Keane
===
When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
   - Wishes

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 16:55:09 -0600, "Carrie Carney"
<Cccarney1@cox.net> wrote:

>Speaking as a former Coca-Cola addict, I have never been able to stand the 
>taste of Diet Coke.  Coke Zero tastes significantly more like regular Coke. 
>Just my particular preference, I'm sure, but I'll stand by the fact that 
>they are very different.  And I suppose I'll still have to pack a 12 pack. 
>Thanks Julie and Derek!

I was able to use Coke Zero to ween a friend off of her 400 empty
calorie per day Coke addiction.

Coke Zero does taste much like real Coke, but without the syrupiness
(if that's a word.)  It tastes so much like real Coke that my Diet
Coke taste buds don't like the stuff.

(I was at AKL in Decmber, 2006, and was carrying a 12-pack of Zero up
to my room, when two ladies in the elevator remarked that Zero was the
"best stuff"...)

Keane
===
When stars are born, They possess a gift or two,
One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
   - Wishes

They ruined Fresca when they outlawed cyclamates! It has never been
the same!

Mark

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 13:38:45 -0600, "Carrie Carney"
<Cccarney1@cox.net> wrote:
>
>Very true about Diet Coke drinkers not liking Coke Zero.  I'll be carrying 
>my 12-pack up to my room too, although I'm hearing I might be able to find 
>20 ouncers on the grounds...
>
>Carrie
>N.O.Mommy 
>

I dunno.  I've always thought the plastic throws the taste off.  Not
sure what it is, whether the smell of the plastic or that it can't
hold carbonation like aluminum or bottles...

I deal with it in the parks, since diet coke from a fountain is not
the same as a diet coke from the factory; but I will often
walk into the parks with a can.  'Course, I drive to the World,
so taking a case or two (of anything)  is not a problem.

Keane
===
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One of them is this, They have the power to make a wish come true...
   - Wishes

Yes but this isn't the same Fresca from the late 60's and very early 70's.
That was sweetened with saccharine like Tab.  I liked the early blend of
Fresca but can't stand the current version.


"Rudeney" <rudeney@mickeypics.com> wrote in message
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> Charlie Foxtrot wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 17:01:09 -0600, Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Personally, I find Diet Coke to be one of the most horrible flavors int
>>> he world, but ironically, the (discontinued?) Diet Coke with Lime was
>>> quite good.  Coke Zero is "acceptable", but honestly, I just still can;t
>>> find a diet drink that has the same great tastes as a real sugar-laden
>>> soft drink.
>>
>> I thought that for a long time too.  Then a girlfriend got me on Diet
>> Coke and Diet Pepsi.  My purchase decision is by what store and what
>> brand has the best sale price that week!
>>
>> Anyhow, after two months of drinking nothing but diet colas, I found
>> the taste of the sugar sweetened regular drinks to taste far more foul
>> than I ever thought diet sodas tasted.
>>
>> Now, after ten years of drinking diet, I will, litterally, spit out
>> regular Coke or Pepsi because the too sweet taste makes me gag.
>
> I don't drink any sugar-sweetened beverages, but still I have never
> acquired a taste for diet sodas.  Even the latest round of
> Splenda-sweetened beverages still does not taste good to me.  The only
> diet drink that actually tastes decent to me is Fresca (and to keep this
> relevant, Fresca is available in many places at WDW).
>
> --
>
> - RODNEY
>
> Next WDW Vacation?
> Who knows...

EG, I haven't purchased a fountain DC @ WDW in a long time but they used to
have DC Caffeine free in all the fountains (tan label instead of white or
now silver).  Didn't have the high-test version at any of the counter
services restaurants, I asked.  Hope this has changed for my next trip.  The
DCL Magic had high-test in all their free fountains on the ship which really
made me happy.


"ElastiGirl" <dznyknitter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 30, 3:35 pm, "Carrie Carney" <Cccarn...@cox.net> wrote:
> Less than 2 days to go, we're almost packed and ready. Last question: Has
> Disney started carrying Coke Zero yet, or will I still need to bring my
> own?
>
> Thanks gang!
>
> Carrie
> N.O.Mommy

Carrie,

Currently, you'll have a much easier time finding Coke Zero than
Caffeine Free Diet Coke -- but I've been told that Coke Zero contains
caffeine...
Where are you staying? I may have first hand info for you :)

EG

FIZZIE wrote:

> It used to be that Disney served Coca Cola and Seaworld served Pepsi.
> Don't recall what Universal served.

...Moose Juice!  :)

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net

"Carol1235" <Carol1235@aol.com> wrote

> One of my good friends has an old time coke machine in their house.

If only it had old time Coke in it. Since they changed the formula in 1985
to "New Coke" and then brought back the "Coke Classic" it has never been the
same. The original formula was changed and it still isn't what it was. Give
me Pepsi anyday.

LVTravel wrote:

> Yes but this isn't the same Fresca from the late 60's and very early 70's.
> That was sweetened with saccharine like Tab.  I liked the early blend of
> Fresca but can't stand the current version.

Is the modern-day Citrus Fresca still grapefruit flavored?
It was always kind of hard to tell.

Always preferred Squirt for grapefruit soda (and Ruby Red flavor!),
until that one disappeared off the shelves, just before Fresca developed
their spinoff cherry and peach flavors...
And Peach Fresca, there's diet happiness.  :P

Derek Janssen
ejanss1@verizon.net

On Jan 31, 9:21 pm, "LVTravel" <n...@noone.com> wrote:
> EG, I haven't purchased a fountain DC @ WDW in a long time but they used to
> have DC Caffeine free in all the fountains (tan label instead of white or
> now silver).  Didn't have the high-test version at any of the counter
> services restaurants, I asked.  Hope this has changed for my next trip.  The
> DCL Magic had high-test in all their free fountains on the ship which really
> made me happy.
>

Not sure I'm understanding you... <my fault>

Most of the food court fountains have (for "diet" or "low calorie"
drinks): Diet Coke (silver label), Coke Zero (black label), Sprite
Zero, and Lite Lemonade -- at least the change over began late last
year -- in January this is what I remember seeing (only one food court
had Diet Caffeine Free Coke - my favorite - Mara @ AKL)

I don't do caffeine (haven't in over 21 years) -- my choices are
limited to Sprite Zero (tastes nasty to my tastebuds) and Lite
Lemonade (5 calories per 8 oz; and frankly, after the 2nd mug or so,
it tastes nasty too).

To counter-service (CS) - no problems with regular diet coke to my
knowledge (MrIncredible drinks it), they've got it. Usually when we do
CS, we get a bottle of water and split it -- try to stay as hydrated
as possible & caffeine & sodas don't do as good a job.

EG

On Thu, 31 Jan 2008 18:21:03 GMT, Keane
<keane_radp@tanstaafl.uchicago.edu> wrote:

>
>Coke Zero does taste much like real Coke, but without the syrupiness
>(if that's a word.)  It tastes so much like real Coke that my Diet
>Coke taste buds don't like the stuff.

Same here.

Foxtrot
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On Jan 30, 3:35 pm, "Carrie Carney" <Cccarn...@cox.net> wrote:
> Less than 2 days to go, we're almost packed and ready.  Last question:  Has
> Disney started carrying Coke Zero yet, or will I still need to bring my own?
>
> Thanks gang!
>
> Carrie
> N.O.Mommy

You might be able to get some at the Hess Gas Stations.  I know we are
Pepsi drinkers so we either bring our own or stop for some at the
store on the way to the resort.  We don't really have a problem with
drinking Coke because it seems most places go with Coke products but
it is nice to have a Pepsi around since it is our 1st choice.

"Derek Janssen" <ejanss1@nospam.verizon.net> wrote in message
news:csvoj.1444$4f.483@trndny08...
> LVTravel wrote:
>
>> Yes but this isn't the same Fresca from the late 60's and very early
>> 70's. That was sweetened with saccharine like Tab.  I liked the early
>> blend of Fresca but can't stand the current version.
>
> Is the modern-day Citrus Fresca still grapefruit flavored?
> It was always kind of hard to tell.
>
> Always preferred Squirt for grapefruit soda (and Ruby Red flavor!), until
> that one disappeared off the shelves, just before Fresca developed their
> spinoff cherry and peach flavors...
> And Peach Fresca, there's diet happiness.  :P

Squirt is alive and well, but it can be hard to find.  Here in MI, where
it's bottled, I can get it any old day of the week.  :)

Kathy M.

In article <fnthvk$ksn$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
 Rudeney <rudeney@mickeypics.com> wrote:

> http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/newcoke.asp
>
> Again, the whole issue with New Coke was a formula consolidation.  The
> formulas for Diet Coke and New Coke were identical save for the former
> using aspartame as a sweetener and the latter using corn syrup.  The
> fact that the Diet Coke formula sweetened with corn syrup made it much
> sweeter than "classic" Coke and thus the winner of blind taste tests
> against Pepsi were all the better.

IMO we'd all be better off if corn were used to make fuel instead of
corn syrup!  It is everywhere.
I spent time rinsing it out of some canned kidney beans I was using to
make chili.  WHY do beans need to be sweetened ?!?!
>
> Within the Snopes article, there is a very interesting (and relevant to
> RADP) quote from Coke's COO:
>
> "The simple fact is that all the time and money and skill poured into
> consumer research on the new Coca-Cola could not measure or reveal the
> deep and abiding emotional attachment to original Coca-Cola felt by so
> many people...The passion for original Coca-Cola ‹ and that is the word
> for it, passion ‹ was something that caught us by <NOBR>surprise..."
>
> This is what Disney has created - a passion for its parks.

Amen, and they use that passion and a host of other feelings including
nostalgia etc. to sell their products.

> Unfortunately, they don't always seem to react as well as Coke did when
> guests find that passion "betrayed" by cutbacks and blatant attempts to
> squeeze more cash out of their pockets without increasing the value.

Amen again!  We know they are a business, but they want us to respond to
their products in a way that makes it more for us than simply being
buyers of a product.

--


Sandi

"ElastiGirl" <dznyknitter@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 31, 9:21 pm, "LVTravel" <n...@noone.com> wrote:
> EG, I haven't purchased a fountain DC @ WDW in a long time
> but they used to
> have DC Caffeine free in all the fountains (tan label
> instead of white or
> now silver). Didn't have the high-test version at any of
> the counter
> services restaurants, I asked. Hope this has changed for
> my next trip. The
> DCL Magic had high-test in all their free fountains on the
> ship which really
> made me happy.
>

Not sure I'm understanding you... <my fault>

Most of the food court fountains have (for "diet" or "low
calorie"
drinks): Diet Coke (silver label), Coke Zero (black label),
Sprite
Zero, and Lite Lemonade -- at least the change over began
late last
year -- in January this is what I remember seeing (only one
food court
had Diet Caffeine Free Coke - my favorite - Mara @ AKL)

I don't do caffeine (haven't in over 21 years) -- my choices
are
limited to Sprite Zero (tastes nasty to my tastebuds) and
Lite
Lemonade (5 calories per 8 oz; and frankly, after the 2nd
mug or so,
it tastes nasty too).

To counter-service (CS) - no problems with regular diet coke
to my
knowledge (MrIncredible drinks it), they've got it. Usually
when we do
CS, we get a bottle of water and split it -- try to stay as
hydrated
as possible & caffeine & sodas don't do as good a job.

EG

Glad to hear that they took out all the non-caffeine DC and
replaced them with high-test (caffeinated).  I need that
caffeine boost every so often to keep the old ticker going.