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It was Bendis who came up with that first in Alias, so he's the one
you've got to watch out for.

It was Bendis who first gave Killgrave this kick for sexually
humiliating female superheroes.  He actually wanted to use Spider-Woman
for the story he did in Alias but he wasn't allowed to.  Now Fabian has
done just that in T-Bolts#12.

Poor Jessica(s).

Akhnaten wrote:
> It was Bendis who first gave Killgrave this kick for sexually
> humiliating female superheroes.  He actually wanted to use Spider-Woman
> for the story he did in Alias but he wasn't allowed to.  Now Fabian has
> done just that in T-Bolts#12.
>
> Poor Jessica(s).

Hang on......

Did Tom Grummett draw a Spider-Woman flying up to attack the Tbolts -
alongside other folks like Justice, Firestar, the Vulture and someone
with a staff who looked like a mix between Quasar and Thor?

And meanwhile, Jessica Drew is in the Avengers tower with Cap and
Killgrave?

--
Sean,
may be seeing things...

"Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> So is Killgrave going to sexually abuse/rape a different superheroine
> every time he appears?  Surely he wouldn't live very long if he did.

More to the point, we now know what Fabian would spend his time doing if he
had those powers.

Jon
--
Kurt: "There was Bucky Barnes, Fred Davis, Jack
Monroe, Lemar Hoskin and Rikki Barnes, at least,
plus Ultimate Bucky and various What-If Buckies."

rc022586: "Which one was the black Bucky?"

Kurt: "A list of names like that and you can't tell
which one was the black guy?"

"Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> It was Bendis who came up with that first in Alias, so he's the one
> you've got to watch out for.

You realize it was just a joke, right?

Jon
--
Kurt: "There was Bucky Barnes, Fred Davis, Jack
Monroe, Lemar Hoskin and Rikki Barnes, at least,
plus Ultimate Bucky and various What-If Buckies."

rc022586: "Which one was the black Bucky?"

Kurt: "A list of names like that and you can't tell
which one was the black guy?"

"Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> It was Bendis who came up with that first in Alias, so he's the one
> you've got to watch out for.

Not even close, Killgrave enslaved and impregnated the mother of Kara, the
Purple Girl/Persuasion of Alpha Flight, about twenty years ago. He later
released her from his control, hoping (for some reason) that her mindlessly
enslaved love would have developed into real love, but mercifully, it was
not to be.

"Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> It was Bendis who first gave Killgrave this kick for sexually
> humiliating female superheroes.

"Simply" moving an existing pattern of behaviour up to the next level, it
was established he would use his powers for gratification without the
targets consent. he's just upped his loathesome little game.

> He actually wanted to use Spider-Woman
> for the story he did in Alias but he wasn't allowed to.  Now Fabian has
> done just that in T-Bolts#12.

Ick.

"Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in
news:1126818521.337234.181720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> So is Killgrave going to sexually abuse/rape a different superheroine
> every time he appears?  Surely he wouldn't live very long if he did.

*shrug* "Heroes don't kill." IIRC, he didn't actually rape Jessica
Jones.

"Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in
news:1126820242.227495.53300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> It was Bendis who first gave Killgrave this kick for sexually
> humiliating female superheroes.  He actually wanted to use
> Spider-Woman for the story he did in Alias but he wasn't allowed to.
> Now Fabian has done just that in T-Bolts#12.

That's not entirely accurate.  Bendis wanted Jessica Drew to be the star
of the book.  I don't think he'd planned out "Purple" before he'd
actually created Jessica Jnes.

"Sean Walsh" <madmod@comicboards.com> wrote in
news:1126824337.017801.73470@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:

> Hang on......
>
> Did Tom Grummett draw a Spider-Woman flying up to attack the Tbolts -
> alongside other folks like Justice, Firestar, the Vulture and someone
> with a staff who looked like a mix between Quasar and Thor?

Yes.  I noticed the same.  I assume the one with the staff is Asgardian
from Young Avengers.

> And meanwhile, Jessica Drew is in the Avengers tower with Cap and
> Killgrave?

Yes, apparently.

No, but he made her watch while he raped other girls, which easily
comes under the heading of sexual abuse.

And *realistically* he's only doing what any evil bastard would do with
his power, and in fact, would hardly be the only super-villain rapist.
Given that normal men took to raping women in the Superdome, despite
being in the middle of the worst natural disaster in the nation's
history, what supervillains would do is actually terrifying and I for
one can live happily without a more *realistic* representation of
super-sex abusers.  I've already had enough between Purple Man and Dr.
Light.

Brian Doyle wrote:
> "Akhnaten" <akhnaten9931@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1126820242.227495.53300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > It was Bendis who first gave Killgrave this kick for sexually
> > humiliating female superheroes.
>
> "Simply" moving an existing pattern of behaviour up to the next level, it
> was established he would use his powers for gratification without the
> targets consent. he's just upped his loathesome little game.
>
> > He actually wanted to use Spider-Woman
> > for the story he did in Alias but he wasn't allowed to.  Now Fabian has
> > done just that in T-Bolts#12.
>
> Ick.

He seems to have a different attitude to female superheroes than he
does with normal woman.  While he does make ordinary woman have sex
with him, he seems to prefer to sexually humiliate the super-powered
ones but without having actual sex, at least if Alias is anything to go
by.  Perhaps it's fear on his part.  Perhaps he can't `perform' if the
woman's too intimidating, no matter how in his thrall she is.  Or
perhaps he's scared of what the reprisal will be if she gets free of
his power.

Of course no-one overtly said it WAS spider-Woman in the tower.  Just a
dark-haired woman named Jessica who we took to be her.  It was the
references to weaving webs and pheromones that gave us the further hint.

<You realize it was just a joke, right?>

I did.  But did you realise my reply was?

<*shrug* "Heroes don't kill." IIRC, he didn't actually rape Jessica
Jones.>

You're a woman with superhuman powers, probably including
superstrength. You come to your senses after hours/days/weeks/months of
mental domination by a perverse and loathsome insect of a man.  You
realise that during that time you've been degraded, humiliated, made to
parade around naked, treated like a toy and, for all you know, raped.
You may even be carrying a child or have who-knows-what disease.  The
trauma will mark you for life.

That man is standing before you, his power over you, for whatever
reason, not working.  But that's not to say it won't come back.

"Heroes don't kill."?  You'd have to be a saint.  And even if you can
restrain your bottomless rage and the urge to snap him like a twig, the
ferocity of your assault may accidentally finish  him.