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9 total messages Started by "Magnus, Robot F Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:24
Spider-Man/Wolverine question
#199446
Author: "Magnus, Robot F
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 18:24
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Given HOM #5....Peter and Logan seem to have a special
understanding/relationship to each other.....is Bendis drawing that
solely off of Spider-Man Vs. Wolverine and the follow-up in Web of
Spider-Man?

Or were there further team-ups I don't know about that expanded on
their relationship?

Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: badthingus@yahoo
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:22
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It's called "We're the best-selling solo stars in the Marvel U, so of
course we're going to be stuck together as much as possible like
Superman and Batman over at DC despite having nothing in common other
than being the best selling so stars...like Superman and Batman over at
DC."

Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: "David Henry"
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:49
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<badthingus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126146133.030954.12570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> It's called "We're the best-selling solo stars in the Marvel U, so of
> course we're going to be stuck together as much as possible like
> Superman and Batman over at DC despite having nothing in common other
> than being the best selling so stars...like Superman and Batman over at
> DC."

IIRC, Bendis also wrote a Spidey-Wolvie teamup in Ultimate X-Men, which
lasted a few issues and was drawn by Finch.

Dave


Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: "Robert Wiacek"
Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:28
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<badthingus@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1126146133.030954.12570@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> It's called "We're the best-selling solo stars in the Marvel U, so of
> course we're going to be stuck together as much as possible like
> Superman and Batman over at DC despite having nothing in common other
> than being the best selling so stars...like Superman and Batman over at
> DC."
>

When dealing with false memories, who better to send than Wolverine?

Rob


Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: "JJ"
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 08:37
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"Magnus, Robot Fighter" <pavelb1@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> Given HOM #5....Peter and Logan seem to have a special
> understanding/relationship to each other.....is Bendis drawing that
> solely off of Spider-Man Vs. Wolverine and the follow-up in Web of
> Spider-Man?
>
> Or were there further team-ups I don't know about that expanded on
> their relationship?
>

There was more in Marvel Team-Up (when the X-Men couldn't be photographed),
and I think a follow up in the Danger Room and a fight against Professor
Power, the Lords of Light and Darkness... I think the Danger Room sequence
was the one that actually showed that Wolverine thought highly of
Spider-Man, if in a subtle way (though I think one of the other X-Men
spelled it out.)

Although it's Ultimates (and therefore not applicable), when Wolverine was
in trouble he crawled into Parker's basement because he trusted Spider-Man
to not betray him.


Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: "Magnus, Robot F
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 16:41
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Agnos wrote:
> > There was more in Marvel Team-Up (when the X-Men couldn't be photographed),
> > and I think a follow up in the Danger Room and a fight against Professor
> > Power, the Lords of Light and Darkness... I think the Danger Room sequence
> > was the one that actually showed that Wolverine thought highly of
> > Spider-Man, if in a subtle way (though I think one of the other X-Men
> > spelled it out.)
> >
> > Although it's Ultimates (and therefore not applicable), when Wolverine was
> > in trouble he crawled into Parker's basement because he trusted Spider-Man
> > to not betray him.
> >
> >
>
> Didn't Wolverine also have some internal monologue after Spider-Man ran circles around the X-Men during the Secret Wars to the effect that they were all newbies compared to Spider-Man?

I think all he said was Spidey made them look like rookies...then he
slightly chastised Charles for mind wiping Spidey.

Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: Agnos
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:12
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> There was more in Marvel Team-Up (when the X-Men couldn't be photographed),
> and I think a follow up in the Danger Room and a fight against Professor
> Power, the Lords of Light and Darkness... I think the Danger Room sequence
> was the one that actually showed that Wolverine thought highly of
> Spider-Man, if in a subtle way (though I think one of the other X-Men
> spelled it out.)
>
> Although it's Ultimates (and therefore not applicable), when Wolverine was
> in trouble he crawled into Parker's basement because he trusted Spider-Man
> to not betray him.
>
>

Didn't Wolverine also have some internal monologue after Spider-Man ran circles around the X-Men during the Secret Wars to the effect that they were all newbies compared to Spider-Man?
Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
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Author: "Magnus, Robot F
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 09:05
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Matt Deres wrote:
> "Magnus, Robot Fighter" <pavelb1@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:1126222879.535340.326830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > Agnos wrote:
> >> > There was more in Marvel Team-Up (when the X-Men couldn't be
> >> > photographed),
> >> > and I think a follow up in the Danger Room and a fight against
> >> > Professor
> >> > Power, the Lords of Light and Darkness... I think the Danger Room
> >> > sequence
> >> > was the one that actually showed that Wolverine thought highly of
> >> > Spider-Man, if in a subtle way (though I think one of the other X-Men
> >> > spelled it out.)
> >> >
> >> > Although it's Ultimates (and therefore not applicable), when Wolverine
> >> > was
> >> > in trouble he crawled into Parker's basement because he trusted
> >> > Spider-Man
> >> > to not betray him.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Didn't Wolverine also have some internal monologue after Spider-Man ran
> >> circles around the X-Men during the Secret Wars to the effect that they
> >> were all newbies compared to Spider-Man?
> >
> > I think all he said was Spidey made them look like rookies...then he
> > slightly chastised Charles for mind wiping Spidey.
>
> Nope.  Towards the end of the scene we're treated to this crap:
>
> Nightcrawler:  "He's getting away!"
> Wolverine: "We're lucky that's all he's trying to do! He really clobbered
> us! He made us look like fools--! Like amateurs!"
>
> <nope that was Jim Shooter>
>
> Anyway, Spidey almost gets away to tell on the X-Men to Mr Fantastic (though
> why he bothered is beyond me) when Charles does the mind-wipe. No
> chastisement at all. They were only muties, though, so Shooter probably
> wasn't interested enough to show it.
>

I'm guessing the line "Thought you swore off mucking with other
people's heads Chuck" is from an Uncanny issue then.

Obligatory defense of a subject without wanting to get into a great
debate over it: Jim Shooter is the best fanboy writer ever.

Re: Spider-Man/Wolverine question
#199556
Author: "Matt Deres"
Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 10:30
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"Magnus, Robot Fighter" <pavelb1@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> Agnos wrote:
>> > There was more in Marvel Team-Up (when the X-Men couldn't be
>> > photographed),
>> > and I think a follow up in the Danger Room and a fight against
>> > Professor
>> > Power, the Lords of Light and Darkness... I think the Danger Room
>> > sequence
>> > was the one that actually showed that Wolverine thought highly of
>> > Spider-Man, if in a subtle way (though I think one of the other X-Men
>> > spelled it out.)
>> >
>> > Although it's Ultimates (and therefore not applicable), when Wolverine
>> > was
>> > in trouble he crawled into Parker's basement because he trusted
>> > Spider-Man
>> > to not betray him.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Didn't Wolverine also have some internal monologue after Spider-Man ran
>> circles around the X-Men during the Secret Wars to the effect that they
>> were all newbies compared to Spider-Man?
>
> I think all he said was Spidey made them look like rookies...then he
> slightly chastised Charles for mind wiping Spidey.

Nope.  Towards the end of the scene we're treated to this crap:

Nightcrawler:  "He's getting away!"
Wolverine: "We're lucky that's all he's trying to do! He really clobbered
us! He made us look like fools--! Like amateurs!"

<nope that was Jim Shooter>

Anyway, Spidey almost gets away to tell on the X-Men to Mr Fantastic (though
why he bothered is beyond me) when Charles does the mind-wipe. No
chastisement at all. They were only muties, though, so Shooter probably
wasn't interested enough to show it.


Matt


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