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6 total messages Started by cjperedina@yahoo Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:12
Verifying Signature
#199864
Author: cjperedina@yahoo
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:12
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Hi all,

I bought a set of the Ballantine trilogy books about 25 yrs ago at a
flea mkt for $1. After the purchase, I noticed that there was a small
phrase written on the inside back cover of the LOTR (in pencil) which
was signed by Tolkien. The books recently came out of storage, and I
figure I should verify the signature just for laughs. I'm guessing it's
a fake, but who knows?

It's this series:
http://derhobbit-film.de/img/buecher/lotrballantine.jpg

Where should I even start this task? Scan and post here?

Thanks for all your help!

Re: Verifying Signature
#199867
Author: cjperedina@yahoo
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 10:26
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> No, you wouldn't post a binary file here.

Agreed - I would post a link to my server.

Have you searched the 'net (even
> if you must use evil google if necessary) for examples of Tolkien's
> signature?

Yes. It's not an exact signature, but it's close...but I guess that
doesnt mean anything.

Have you gone to local bookshops that sell collectible books to
> see if they have a signed Tolkien?

None that could help.

Thanks!

Re: Verifying Signature
#199869
Author: "Hyarion"
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 11:20
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<snip>
> I'm guessing it's a fake, but who knows?
<snip>

Definitely go ahead and upload the image somwhere so we can take a look
at it. You might check out the below link for some comparisons of fake
vs. authentic signatures.
http://www.tolkienlibrary.com/press/fascimilesignatures.htm

If we assume the book was published between 1965 and 1973 and you
purchased it about 25 years ago (~1981) at a flea market then that
means the signature would have been anywhere from 8-16 years old. This
would mean the previous owner was most likely the first or second
owner. If we assume the person who first ownd the book would know about
the signature then they certainly wouldn't sell it to the second person
for a cheap price and the chances that they would sell the book for $1
to you are slim. Who knows though, logic rarely seems to take place in
life.

Re: Verifying Signature
#199865
Author: Bran Mak Muffin
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:22
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In news:1158081176.212163.43950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, on Tue, 12 Sep
2006 17:12:56 GMT, cjperedina@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>

> I bought a set of the Ballantine trilogy books about 25 yrs ago at a
> flea mkt for $1. After the purchase, I noticed that there was a small
> phrase written on the inside back cover of the LOTR (in pencil) which
> was signed by Tolkien. The books recently came out of storage, and I
> figure I should verify the signature just for laughs. I'm guessing it's
> a fake, but who knows?

<snip>

I bought an Elric book under similar circumstances. The book has a
signature that *looks* like it might be "Michael Moorcock," but who knows
for sure?

> Where should I even start this task? Scan and post here?

No, you wouldn't post a binary file here. Have you searched the 'net (even
if you must use evil google if necessary) for examples of Tolkien's
signature? Have you gone to local bookshops that sell collectible books to
see if they have a signed Tolkien?
Re: Verifying Signature
#199868
Author: Bran Mak Muffin
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 17:36
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In news:1158081983.476966.42430@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, on Tue, 12
Sep 2006 17:26:23 GMT, cjperedina@yahoo.com wrote:

<snip>

<I wrote:>

>> Have you searched the 'net <my snip> for examples of Tolkien's
>> signature?

> Yes. It's not an exact signature, but it's close...but I guess that
> doesnt mean anything.

<snip>

Sure, just because it's not "exact" doesn't mean it's not genuine. People
aren't machines and they don't sign their names the exact same way all the
time.

Have you searched evil amazon, evil ebay or slightly-less-evil Barnes &
Noble for signed Tolkiens? You could e-mail the sellers and ask them if/how
they verified the signature.
Re: Verifying Signature
#199866
Author: "Speaking Clock"
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2006 18:25
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cjperedina@yahoo.com <cjperedina@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I bought a set of the Ballantine trilogy books about 25 yrs ago at a
> flea mkt for $1. After the purchase, I noticed that there was a small
> phrase written on the inside back cover of the LOTR (in pencil) which
> was signed by Tolkien. The books recently came out of storage, and I
> figure I should verify the signature just for laughs. I'm guessing
> it's a fake, but who knows?
>
> It's this series:
> http://derhobbit-film.de/img/buecher/lotrballantine.jpg
>
> Where should I even start this task? Scan and post here?

Scan and upload it to the web, then send us the link.
--
Speaking Clock


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