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Actually from what I read, someone has even suggested a boulevard or walk
of statues.  Statues of other NZers like Rutherford, McDiarmid, etc

Lin

On 18 Jan 2002 13:21:52 GMT, lin@darkmere.gen.nz.invalid wrote:

>Actually from what I read, someone has even suggested a boulevard or walk
>of statues.  Statues of other NZers like Rutherford, McDiarmid, etc
>
and who was that third Nobel winner? The one who worked with Watson &
Crick on DNA?
He's like Jose Carreras or Zeppo Marx. The other one...You know,
whatsisface....

>Lin

You've got Peter Blake on the debit side of yr ledger. We (Wellington)
have got Tiger Woods. We're up for $250,000, and nothing permanent to
show for it. The few sizeable sculptural works I have ever even
contemplated buying ran at $2000 or less.

I think Auckland would have the better of the bargain.

Steve B.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:19:06 GMT, s.bell@iecho.co.nz (Steve Bell)
said:

>On 18 Jan 2002 13:21:52 GMT, lin@darkmere.gen.nz.invalid wrote:
>
>>Actually from what I read, someone has even suggested a boulevard or walk
>>of statues.  Statues of other NZers like Rutherford, McDiarmid, etc
>>
>and who was that third Nobel winner? The one who worked with Watson &
>Crick on DNA?

Maurice Wilkins.

http://www.nobel.se/medicine/laureates/1962/wilkins-bio.html


-------
Southern trees bear a strange fruit,
Blood on the leaves and blood at the root,
Black body swinging in the Southern breeze,
Strange fruit hanging from the poplar trees.

--"Strange Fruit"- Billie Holiday

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:09:17 +1300, TomV <tomv@ihug.blahblah.co.nz>
wrote:

>On 18 Jan 2002 03:36:43 -0800, red777@beer.com (Consumer Sedition)
>wrote:
>
>>Shit I'm glad I'm not an Auckland ratepayer. I had worried that the
>>taxpayer would be forking out to put up a statue to honour Sir Bludger
>>Blake. However good old Banksie has come to the rescue of the NZ
>>taxpayer and decided to use you Auckland suckers rate money to pay for
>>it. Good old Banksie. But hang on a minute, which basic council
>>services will you be intending to prune back on?
>>Christ, Banksie is even so forward thinking - he'll probably
>>commission someone that's on the artists dole scheme to do the work.
>
>This is a new one on me. Bansk wants to put up a statue? But he said
>you guys couldn't afford a tree!
>
>Wish he'd make up his mind
>
Perhaps it has something to do with cultural distinction and (one of
New Zealand's worst weasel terms) "cultural safety"?

Newsman

In article <d2534a9d.0201180336.48931ad7@posting.google.com> in newsgroup
nz.general on 18 Jan 2002 03:36:43 -0800, Consumer
Sedition(red777@beer.com) said...
> Shit I'm glad I'm not an Auckland ratepayer.

I bet Auckland is glad too!

Are you a ratepayer anywhere?

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 14:00:27 +1300, Aaron Bhatnagar
<aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote:

>
>
>The person who suggested the boulevard of statues was me.
>


 Thank God this ugly boulevard of junk  statues will be  in Auckland
so that really decent New Zealanders in the rest of the country can
avoid the repulsive storied urns and  hideous animated busts


Patrick

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:31:58 +1300, Aaron Bhatnagar
<aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote:

>
>
>
>I suspect patrick, that you have never seen a decent bust before in your
>life.


Wrong Wrong  Wrong Aaron ,

 I have seen a lot of your Act colleagues  who in their former
incarnation as rogernomes,  busted New  Zealand and changed it from a
caring  society to one in which  greed was the only virtue.

Patrick

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:30:23 +1300, Aaron Bhatnagar
<aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote:

>
>Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
>via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples. I personally
>happen to think that Muldoon had much to commend him as a politician,
>putting aside the economic management of the last 3 years of his prime
>ministership, when reforms were much needed. He was honest, intelligent and
>well informed. He was a great speaker and few in Parliament were capable of
>taking him on and win.


 Muldoon was the worst Prime Minister New Zealand ever had.

Patrick

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:36:00 +1300, "Ashley"
<ashleyjane@SPAMOFFxtra.co.nz> wrote:

>
>"Aaron Bhatnagar" <aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote in message
>news:B86F4F9F.1EB6%aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz...
>
>
>> No donations - I intend this to be an Auckland City project funded by
>> ratepayers.
>>
>
>What - statues of dubious artistic merit have suddenly become core business.
>I must have blinked and missed that one.

Well council funding of golf tournaments has down this way.  You're
getting your turn



~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained
by stupidity."

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On 18 Jan 2002 03:36:43 -0800, red777@beer.com (Consumer Sedition)
wrote:

>Shit I'm glad I'm not an Auckland ratepayer. I had worried that the
>taxpayer would be forking out to put up a statue to honour Sir Bludger
>Blake. However good old Banksie has come to the rescue of the NZ
>taxpayer and decided to use you Auckland suckers rate money to pay for
>it. Good old Banksie. But hang on a minute, which basic council
>services will you be intending to prune back on?
>Christ, Banksie is even so forward thinking - he'll probably
>commission someone that's on the artists dole scheme to do the work.

This is a new one on me. Bansk wants to put up a statue? But he said
you guys couldn't afford a tree!

Wish he'd make up his mind

..tom

"Newsman" <news.man@paridyse.not.nx> wrote in message
news:3c48905c.3286794@news.paradise.net.nz...
> On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 09:09:17 +1300, TomV <tomv@ihug.blahblah.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >On 18 Jan 2002 03:36:43 -0800, red777@beer.com (Consumer Sedition)
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >This is a new one on me. Bansk wants to put up a statue? But he said
> >you guys couldn't afford a tree!
> >
> >Wish he'd make up his mind
> >
> Perhaps it has something to do with cultural distinction and (one of
> New Zealand's worst weasel terms) "cultural safety"?
>

Yeah, the tree will make the Maoris happy - scrap it.  The statue will make
the yachties happy - go for it.  That'll be the "thought" process.

On 1/19/02 8:26 AM, in article 3c4875a3.1853366@news.xtra.co.nz,
"invisibl@eexxttrraa.co.nz" <T A R T> wrote:

>>
>>> Actually from what I read, someone has even suggested a boulevard or walk
>>> of statues.  Statues of other NZers like Rutherford, McDiarmid, etc
>>>
>> and who was that third Nobel winner? The one who worked with Watson &
>> Crick on DNA?
>
> Maurice Wilkins.


The person who suggested the boulevard of statues was me.

Visit http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1071551a1501,FF.html

"Aaron Bhatnagar" <aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote in message
news:B86F2C7B.1B90%aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz...
> On 1/19/02 8:26 AM, in article 3c4875a3.1853366@news.xtra.co.nz,
> "invisibl@eexxttrraa.co.nz" <T A R T> wrote:
> >>> Actually from what I read, someone has even suggested a boulevard or
walk
> >>> of statues.  Statues of other NZers like Rutherford, McDiarmid, etc
> >>>
> >> and who was that third Nobel winner? The one who worked with Watson &
> >> Crick on DNA?
> >
> > Maurice Wilkins.
>
> The person who suggested the boulevard of statues was me.
>
> Visit http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1071551a1501,FF.html


Hello Ugly! ;-)

A few questions:

Which statue will you be donating?

Who's going to donate the rest?

What makes Muldoon great?

Why would you choose such beautiful locations to uglify with his awful
mein?

"Consumer Sedition" <red777@beer.com> wrote in message
news:d2534a9d.0201180336.48931ad7@posting.google.com...

> Shit I'm glad I'm not an Auckland ratepayer.

Hopefully you're not a Wellington ratepayer (though somehow i get the
feeling you don't pay rates). They got nailed for "Tigerfest" without even
getting a couple of free tickets to watch the man. Oops - apparently
*someone* did ;)

--
Mr Scebe

"Bow down before the one you serve, you're going to get what you deserve"
~NIN

On 1/19/02 2:16 PM, in article 9O328.438$zy4.38641@news02.tsnz.net, "Denver
Fletcher" <denver@paradise.net.nz> wrote:

>> Visit http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1071551a1501,FF.html
>
>
> Hello Ugly! ;-)
>
> A few questions:
>
> Which statue will you be donating?
>
> Who's going to donate the rest?
>
> What makes Muldoon great?
>
> Why would you choose such beautiful locations to uglify with his awful
> mein?
>
>



No donations - I intend this to be an Auckland City project funded by
ratepayers.

Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples. I personally
happen to think that Muldoon had much to commend him as a politician,
putting aside the economic management of the last 3 years of his prime
ministership, when reforms were much needed. He was honest, intelligent and
well informed. He was a great speaker and few in Parliament were capable of
taking him on and win.

Regards

AB

On 1/19/02 4:30 PM, in article 3c48e79f.39335203@news.netaccess.co.nz,
"Patrick FitzGerald" <patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz> wrote:

>>
>> The person who suggested the boulevard of statues was me.
>>
>
>
> Thank God this ugly boulevard of junk  statues will be  in Auckland
> so that really decent New Zealanders in the rest of the country can
> avoid the repulsive storied urns and  hideous animated busts
>
>
> Patrick


I suspect patrick, that you have never seen a decent bust before in your
life.

AB

"Aaron Bhatnagar" <aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote in message
news:B86F4F9F.1EB6%aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz...


> No donations - I intend this to be an Auckland City project funded by
> ratepayers.
>

What - statues of dubious artistic merit have suddenly become core business.
I must have blinked and missed that one.


> Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
> via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples.

I personally think the whole idea should be approved or otherwise by public
consultation. My bet is that the public chooses otherwise.

On 1/19/02 4:36 PM, in article mS528.350$Lv.47189@news.xtra.co.nz, "Ashley"
<ashleyjane@SPAMOFFxtra.co.nz> wrote:

>> No donations - I intend this to be an Auckland City project funded by
>> ratepayers.
>>
>
> What - statues of dubious artistic merit have suddenly become core business.
> I must have blinked and missed that one.

Parks, recreation areas and some facets of art are included as core
business.



>
>
>> Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
>> via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples.
>
> I personally think the whole idea should be approved or otherwise by public
> consultation. My bet is that the public chooses otherwise.
>


So be it. But the point I am trying to make is that in addition to Peter
Blake, there are many other NZ'ers who deserve remembrance and historical
recognition.

AB

On 1/19/02 4:43 PM, in article 3c48ead0.40152049@news.netaccess.co.nz,
"Patrick FitzGerald" <patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz> wrote:

>>
>> Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
>> via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples. I personally
>> happen to think that Muldoon had much to commend him as a politician,
>> putting aside the economic management of the last 3 years of his prime
>> ministership, when reforms were much needed. He was honest, intelligent and
>> well informed. He was a great speaker and few in Parliament were capable of
>> taking him on and win.
>
>
> Muldoon was the worst Prime Minister New Zealand ever had.
>
> Patrick


Rubbish. If he was so bad, how come he won three elections, one by a massive
landslide (reversing a landslide to boot!)


AB

No, the birds can nest on the statue instead.
S.

TomV wrote in message <560h4uo9lskuo2btk3ukpeaich7juqgjk0@4ax.com>...
>On 18 Jan 2002 03:36:43 -0800, red777@beer.com (Consumer Sedition)
>wrote:
<<snip>>
>
>This is a new one on me. Bansk wants to put up a statue? But he said
>you guys couldn't afford a tree!
>
>Wish he'd make up his mind
>
>...tom

Aaron Bhatnagar <aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote in message

> "Patrick FitzGerald" <patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz> wrote:

> > Thank God this ugly boulevard of junk  statues will be  in Auckland
> > so that really decent New Zealanders in the rest of the country can
> > avoid the repulsive storied urns and  hideous animated busts

> I suspect patrick, that you have never seen a decent bust before in your
> life.

What's so great about a decent bust?

Indecent busts, now; that's another story...

:-)

- Dave
--
Lowering the tone of Usenet since 1997...
"About affection nothingness or erring address,
please carrying back massage into address
transmitter" - Back of an envelope from foreign parts.

On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 03:40:59 GMT, patrick.f@netaccess.co.nz (Patrick FitzGerald)
wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jan 2002 16:31:58 +1300, Aaron Bhatnagar
><aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>>I suspect patrick, that you have never seen a decent bust before in your
>>life.
>
>
>Wrong Wrong  Wrong Aaron ,
>
> I have seen a lot of your Act colleagues  who in their former
>incarnation as rogernomes,  busted New  Zealand and changed it from a
>caring  society to one in which  greed was the only virtue.
>
>Patrick

I think he was referring to Tits Patrick..
--

  Col

Christchurch beaches are dangerous.
If in trouble hold up you hand and shout
F1  F1  F1  F1

Aaron Bhatnagar wrote:

> On 1/19/02 2:16 PM, in article 9O328.438$zy4.38641@news02.tsnz.net, "Denver
> Fletcher" <denver@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
>
> >> Visit http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1071551a1501,FF.html
> >
> >
> > Hello Ugly! ;-)
> >
> > A few questions:
> >
> > Which statue will you be donating?
> >
> > Who's going to donate the rest?
> >
> > What makes Muldoon great?
> >
> > Why would you choose such beautiful locations to uglify with his awful
> > mein?
> >
> >
>
> No donations - I intend this to be an Auckland City project funded by
> ratepayers.

Yeh right, so you'd like to spend some of my rates on a statue of
Piggy. Pay for it yourself and stick it on your own front lawn.
Better yet, stick it in the back garden so that it won't frighten
an unsuspecting passerby.


> Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
> via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples. I personally
> happen to think that Muldoon had much to commend him as a politician,
> putting aside the economic management of the last 3 years of his prime
> ministership, when reforms were much needed. He was honest, intelligent and
> well informed. He was a great speaker and few in Parliament were capable of
> taking him on and win.

I was under the impression that community boards are there to
decide on the allocation of local community funding and to be
advocates for their local community in general funding and
other council matters.

Is this is an example of how the current Hobson community board
thinks money should be spent or just a personal whim? If the
former then for once I am in agreement with Banks, diminish the
boards forthwith.


p.s. There already is a statue commemorating Freyberg, it's been
in Freyberg Pl or whatever it's called now since 1978.

p.p.s. There's also a Freyberg Place and Park not far from where
I live in Sandringham as well as Freyberg this and thats all over
Auckland.

--

Regards,
David Shorter

Any errors in tact, fact or spelling
are entirely due to transmission error.

"Aaron Bhatnagar" <aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote in message
news:B86F576A.1EC1%aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz...
> On 1/19/02 4:36 PM, in article mS528.350$Lv.47189@news.xtra.co.nz,
"Ashley"
> <ashleyjane@SPAMOFFxtra.co.nz> wrote:


> > What - statues of dubious artistic merit have suddenly become core
business.
> > I must have blinked and missed that one.
>
> Parks, recreation areas and some facets of art are included as core
> business.


Parks and recreation do not necessitate avenues lined with vulgar statues in
some throw-back to 19th century thinking. Art? Well, it's good to see the
council encouraging innovative thinking.

"Dave Joll" <davejoll@es.co.nz> wrote in message
news:a2ati8$3jd$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...


> What's so great about a decent bust?
>

It's a sure way of getting attention :-)


> Indecent busts, now; that's another story...
>
> :-)

Actually, I have found, they don't need to be indecent at all. Just *there*
does the trick.

"Aaron Bhatnagar" <aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz> wrote in message
news:B86F4F9F.1EB6%aaron@bhatnagar.co.nz...
> On 1/19/02 2:16 PM, in article 9O328.438$zy4.38641@news02.tsnz.net,
"Denver
> Fletcher" <denver@paradise.net.nz> wrote:
> >> Visit http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1071551a1501,FF.html
> > A few questions:
> >
> > Which statue will you be donating?
> >
> > Who's going to donate the rest?
> >
> > What makes Muldoon great?
> >
> > Why would you choose such beautiful locations to uglify with his awful
> > mein?
>
> No donations - I intend this to be an Auckland City project funded by
> ratepayers.
>
> Besides, I would expect the people chosen to be commemorated to be chosen
> via public consultation, the names I suggested were examples. I
personally
> happen to think that Muldoon had much to commend him as a politician,
> putting aside the economic management of the last 3 years of his prime
> ministership, when reforms were much needed. He was honest, intelligent
and
> well informed. He was a great speaker and few in Parliament were capable
of
> taking him on and win.


Agreed. Doesn't go far explaining why a libertarian would want to spend
taxpayers money on glorifying him though, does it?

Has political pragmatism cured you of the disease of principle?