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Started by "torresD"
Sat, 22 May 2004 09:10
Rape, Torture, Violations - Being Done - In Our Name!
Author: "torresD"
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:10
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 09:10
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There was also a white female soldier, short, she was taking pictures." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43783-2004May20_2.html Hilas also said he watched as Graner and others sodomized a detainee with a phosphoric light. "They tied him to the bed," Hilas said. Graner's attorney, Guy L. Womack, did not return phone messages yesterday. In previous interviews, he has said that his client was following the lead of military intelligence officers. Mustafa Jassim Mustafa, detainee No. 150542, told military investigators he also witnessed the phosphoric-light assault. He said it was around the time of Ramadan, the holiest period of the Muslim year, when he heard screams coming from a cell below. Mustafa said he looked down to see a group of soldiers holding the detainee down and sodomizing him with the light. Graner was sodomizing him with the phosphoric light, Mustafa said. The detainee "was screaming for help. There was another tall white man who was with Graner -- he was helping him. There was also a white female soldier, short, she was taking pictures."
Re: Rape, Torture, Violations - Being Done - In Our Name!
Author: Matthias Melzer
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:46
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 15:46
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It's just the logic of the US policy What can you exspect from a country with it's political leader using a rhetoric that remembers me at the genocide of the native Americans. "Smoke them out and keep them running..." Bush created an athmospere of hate, anger and fear. He created an athmosphere of "black and white". America per definition is good and who is not with America is against it. In my opinion at the moment everything seems just, if it could protect America or give some advantage. This includes humilation, systematic abuse, torture, kidnapping. If there would be no graphical proof everything could have been denied. And eaven with this proof it is downscaled to the "Misdoing of 7-14 soldiers". This government could lie America into a war and keep in power when all the reasons for the war vanished. Do you really think they care for human rights of Iraquis? It all looks a bit like the NAZI regime. Before the began murdering in large scale and doing genocide there was torture, abuse, kidnapping and humilating of political enemies and jews. No one really did care. America for sure made a great decline under Bushs reign. Politicallyand morally. Matthias
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