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Started by "Byron Paul Thom
Thu, 09 Jun 1994 02:28
Re: Life after death proof problems
Author: "Byron Paul Thom
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 02:28
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 1994 02:28
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> I don't endorse Aparicio's further claim > that life after death can be considered "true" because it's "useful" > whereas no life after death is "stupid" because it's irrelevant. I sure do not know why. This is purely dynamic in the sense that we have to consider the continuum of events. Why the utter annihilation of 'existence' simply because 'we' cannot see nor talk to the individual at that point? Say, that was pretty good! :)
Re: Life after death proof problems
Author: stevens@prodigal
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 00:01
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 1994 00:01
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Someone wrote: > I don't endorse Aparicio's further claim > that life after death can be considered "true" because it's "useful" > whereas no life after death is "stupid" because it's irrelevant. I think the question arises: what BETTER criterion do you have for your beliefs? What's your "fitness function" for beliefs? :-) Without a function of this sort, any claim about belief in any X is hand-waving. Now, some people lean towards "evidence" as a determiner for their degree of belief in X, which ultimately relies on perception (whether direct perception of X or perception of others asserting X or perception of something caused by X is irrelevat -- it's still perception). But if you look at the "evidence" of biology (smile -- I know this will be self-referential, but I *don't* think it's a viscious circle) you find that our structure determines the nature of our perceptions. Biologically, we evolved mechanisms to perceive that which benefits our survival. Thus, we PERCEIVE things based on whether they are USEFULL. Thus if you believe in X based on "evidence," ultimately you are believing in X because it is useful to you are a living organism to believe X, whether in a cognitive or fundamentally structural way. So I don't see how you CAN argue against the belief-based-on-utility stance. I think you just have a different notion of what is "useful" than those who proport to have found that believing in an afterlife is the most useful stance. I personally find no use for it, so I don't believe in it. I am not internally, cognitively or biologically MOTIVATED to believe in it. But I recognize that others may be. People who believe that all of life springs from intellectualism may have good biological excuses for being able to feel that way, and motivating those beliefs -- i.e. not ever having encountered their embodiments as obsticles. People who are oppressed and don't have the advantages of invisible labor tend to develop very different theories of life and mind than those who have cultural power positions..... Greg greg@santafe.edu stevens@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu
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