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Started by "John Boy Walton
Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:07
8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "John Boy Walton
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:07
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:07
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G'day everyone. 8020 and 9216 were finally hauled out of Gonninans last Monday 26th August by Lachlin Valley rail. All fingers were crossed when the shiny new pantograph touched the overhead for the first time. Very uneventfully the compressor started running, the alternator started running and producing current for the auxiliary equipment. That was it, the car did exactly as it should no dramas. No-one new exactly what would happen after such a massive re-build of this power car which probably should have been laid to rest forever. After a minute or so there was a WHOOSH as the air-con units kicked in and started cooling the cars. So everything is running fine right down to the water coolers purring away in both cars even if they were empty. Not all good news though when the car was attempted to move under it own power a problem became apparent in the pilot motor area and also in the line switch area. It was decided to send the cars back to Gonninans for these repairs to done in a proper work area rather than the rail motor siding. The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie balance and body twist tests as requested by SRA. The cars returned to Gonninans Wednesday morning with the plans for them to return back to the electric siding Broadmeadow next Monday the 2nd September. Hopefully trials will be run to Morriset next week with V96 8036-9036. So let the debate begin Was the re-build worth the cost and effort? What will people think of the trailer car 9216 with it's suburban design wall length seats? If you look carefully you can see the various places where welds and cuts and shuts have occurred to the body around the gondola and different side fluting towards the front of the car. Also look closely at all the original number locations. You can still see the outlines of the markings DIM 8067 and DCT 9034. To all of who know this power car will always be known as "The Glenbrook Car." To those who don't know they may be fooled into thinking that Cityrail is spending big on car re-furbishments. I have it on good authority that our Mr. Maikha (V-set) Ly has lots of photo's to show us Including some close up's of the Hexham cars. So look for these new looking "Yellow doored" cars they could be in traffic in the next few weeks. Cheers for now, Jono.
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: Jonathan Lau
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:57
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 13:57
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John Boy Walton wrote: > G'day everyone. <some snippage occurred here> > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie balance > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. How is a body twist test conducted? > So let the debate begin > Was the re-build worth the cost and effort? Some people would say "yes" and others will say "no". CityRail are short a few V set power cars after previous accidents and no one builds them anymore, so fixing it to was sort of logical. On the other side, it is probably distasteful to rebuilt 8067 after such a major accident in which people lost lives. > What will people think of the trailer car 9216 with it's suburban design > wall length seats? Where are the wall length seats located? In the upper and lower decks? > So look for these new looking "Yellow doored" cars they could be in traffic > in the next few weeks. Excellent. A 2 car refurbished V-set. Should keep Maikha occupied for the next few months. :) Regards, Jon Lau
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: shane.polle@aust
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:53
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 18:53
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<snip> > > So let the debate begin > > Was the re-build worth the cost and effort? > > Some people would say "yes" and others will say "no". CityRail are short a few > V set power cars after previous accidents and no one builds them anymore, so > fixing it to was sort of logical. > > On the other side, it is probably distasteful to rebuilt 8067 after such a > major accident in which people lost lives. True, but the same goes for the track (what has changed) and other crashes like NR121, were as NR 3(?) a much higher percentage of the occupants died and I assume every driver of NR 121 knows its history. Few passengers will ever know about 8067's history. At the end of the day, its bean counters and logistics who decide. Shane
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: Jonathan Lau
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:31
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:31
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Shane Polle wrote: > > On the other side, it is probably distasteful to rebuilt 8067 after such a > > major accident in which people lost lives. > > True, but the same goes for the track (what has changed) and other > crashes like NR121, were as NR 3(?) a much higher percentage of the > occupants died and I assume every driver of NR 121 knows its history. Rumour has it that NR121 is not usually run into NSW (if avoidable) out of respect to the dead drivers and even then, on most other services it is usually put "into the shafts" as no one wants to drive it. Regards, Jon Lau
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: Jonathan Lau
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:33
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 11:33
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PeeJay wrote: > > > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie > balance > > > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. > > > > How is a body twist test conducted? > > It's put in a big rotating vice. > > ......Snnnnnnnappp!! > > Oh bugger! Did Toyota have anything to do with it? ;) Regards, Jon Lau
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "PeeJay"
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:05
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:05
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"Jonathan Lau" <jonlau@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:3D6E2907.AF1904CB@ozemail.com.au... > John Boy Walton wrote: > > > G'day everyone. > > <some snippage occurred here> > > > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie balance > > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. > > How is a body twist test conducted? It's put in a big rotating vice. ......Snnnnnnnappp!! Oh bugger!
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "Marco Spaccaven
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:15
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:15
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"John Boy Walton" <JBW@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:QUob9.18127$g9.56923@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > G'day everyone. > > 8020 and 9216 were finally hauled out of Gonninans last Monday 26th August > by Lachlin Valley rail. Wouldn't there already have been an 8020 and 9216? Or were they written off previously? -- -- Marco Spaccavento rbgemini@iprimus.com.au
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "Glenn J-B"
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:39
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:39
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"Marco Spaccavento" <rbgemini@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:aknd2v$1k1ie3$1@ID-132730.news.dfncis.de... > > "John Boy Walton" <JBW@bigpond.com> wrote in message > news:QUob9.18127$g9.56923@newsfeeds.bigpond.com... > > G'day everyone. > > > > 8020 and 9216 were finally hauled out of Gonninans last Monday 26th August > > by Lachlin Valley rail. > > Wouldn't there already have been an 8020 and 9216? Or were they written off > previously? > The DCM's started at 8021, being the next series of cars after DCF8001 to DCF8008, which became part of the 92xx series cars when converted to trailers or reburbished as trailers. These cars are now 9201 to 9215, being a mix of DMT DDT and DFT's.
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "John Boy Walton
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:05
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 22:05
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"Jonathan Lau" <jonlau@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:3D6E2907.AF1904CB@ozemail.com.au... > > > G'day everyone. > > <some snippage occurred here> > > > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie balance > > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. > > How is a body twist test conducted? A twist test is easier than you think. The corner wheels are literally jacked up or the body corners are raised off the bogie frames packed and then lowered again causing the body to twist. This is a little out of the league of a mere driver, perhaps someone else knows exactly how. > > > What will people think of the trailer car 9216 with it's suburban design > > wall length seats? > > Where are the wall length seats located? In the upper and lower decks? As I said, Maikha has quite a few photos of these cars already so ask him to post them. The seats are loceated along the walls of the area which used to be the crew compartment of 9034. As in the ex-control suburban cars Cheers Jono > > So look for these new looking "Yellow doored" cars they could be in traffic > > in the next few weeks. > > Excellent. A 2 car refurbished V-set. Should keep Maikha occupied for the next > few months. :) > > Regards, > > Jon Lau >
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: maikhaly@yahoo.c
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:59
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 14:59
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"John Boy Walton" <JBW@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<g4Jb9.19021$g9.59075@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>... > "Jonathan Lau" <jonlau@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message > news:3D6E2907.AF1904CB@ozemail.com.au... > > > > > > G'day everyone. > > > > <some snippage occurred here> > > > > > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie > balance > > > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. > > > > How is a body twist test conducted? > > A twist test is easier than you think. > The corner wheels are literally jacked up or the body corners are raised off > the bogie frames packed and then lowered again causing the body to twist. > This is a little out of the league of a mere driver, > perhaps someone else knows exactly how. > > > > > What will people think of the trailer car 9216 with it's suburban design > > > wall length seats? > > > > Where are the wall length seats located? In the upper and lower decks? > > As I said, Maikha has quite a few photos of these cars already so ask him to > post them. > The seats are loceated along the walls of the area which used to be the crew > compartment of 9034. As in the ex-control suburban cars > At the moment, I'm uploading the images to my webserver. More details about the images and the images themselves will be online by tomorrow. Maikha "V" Ly theintercityplatform.iwarp.com
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: maikhaly@yahoo.c
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 15:01
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 15:01
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Jonathan Lau <jonlau@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<3D6E2907.AF1904CB@ozemail.com.au>... > John Boy Walton wrote: > > > G'day everyone. > > <some snippage occurred here> > > > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie balance > > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. > > How is a body twist test conducted? > > > So let the debate begin > > Was the re-build worth the cost and effort? > > Some people would say "yes" and others will say "no". CityRail are short a few > V set power cars after previous accidents and no one builds them anymore, so > fixing it to was sort of logical. > > On the other side, it is probably distasteful to rebuilt 8067 after such a > major accident in which people lost lives. > > > What will people think of the trailer car 9216 with it's suburban design > > wall length seats? > > Where are the wall length seats located? In the upper and lower decks? > > > So look for these new looking "Yellow doored" cars they could be in traffic > > in the next few weeks. > > Excellent. A 2 car refurbished V-set. Should keep Maikha occupied for the next > few months. :) If I can locate this 2car V-SET in service somewhere on the network (Lithgow? Kiama? Newcastle? Goulburn???). Maikha "V" Ly theintercityplatform.iwarp.com
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: bigbear04@yahoo.
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:54
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 17:54
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JBW, Where can I find the pictures of 8020? Seats "John Boy Walton" <JBW@bigpond.com> wrote in message news:<g4Jb9.19021$g9.59075@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>... > "Jonathan Lau" <jonlau@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message > news:3D6E2907.AF1904CB@ozemail.com.au... > > > > > > G'day everyone. > > > > <some snippage occurred here> > > > > > The opportunity would also be taken to do some fine tuning to bogie > balance > > > and body twist tests as requested by SRA. > > > > How is a body twist test conducted? > > A twist test is easier than you think. > The corner wheels are literally jacked up or the body corners are raised off > the bogie frames packed and then lowered again causing the body to twist. > This is a little out of the league of a mere driver, > perhaps someone else knows exactly how. > > > > > What will people think of the trailer car 9216 with it's suburban design > > > wall length seats? > > > > Where are the wall length seats located? In the upper and lower decks? > > As I said, Maikha has quite a few photos of these cars already so ask him to > post them. > The seats are loceated along the walls of the area which used to be the crew > compartment of 9034. As in the ex-control suburban cars > > Cheers Jono > > > > So look for these new looking "Yellow doored" cars they could be in > traffic > > > in the next few weeks. > > > > Excellent. A 2 car refurbished V-set. Should keep Maikha occupied for the > next > > few months. :) > > > > Regards, > > > > Jon Lau > >
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: Jonathan Lau
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 02:17
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 02:17
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Marco Spaccavento wrote: > "M aikha" <maikhaly@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > news:fe1caff3.0208311401.7a8b9af8@posting.google.com... > > > > If I can locate this 2car V-SET in service somewhere on the network > > (Lithgow? Kiama? Newcastle? Goulburn???). > > Goulburn? In Maikha's dreams. :) Regards, Jon Lau
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "Marco Spaccaven
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 11:54
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 11:54
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"M aikha" <maikhaly@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:fe1caff3.0208311401.7a8b9af8@posting.google.com... > > If I can locate this 2car V-SET in service somewhere on the network > (Lithgow? Kiama? Newcastle? Goulburn???). Goulburn? -- -- Marco Spaccavento rbgemini@iprimus.com.au
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "Dave Malcolm"
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 17:16
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 17:16
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Marco Spaccavento <rbgemini@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message news:akrs0m$1l8f8o$1@ID-132730.news.dfncis.de... > > "M aikha" <maikhaly@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > news:fe1caff3.0208311401.7a8b9af8@posting.google.com... > > > > If I can locate this 2car V-SET in service somewhere on the network > > (Lithgow? Kiama? Newcastle? Goulburn???). > > Goulburn? > Why not? There's some U boat cars there. Dave Malcolm
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "Marco Spaccaven
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:51
Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2002 21:51
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"Dave Malcolm" <kmalcolm@tpg.com.au> wrote in message news:U8jc9.11$fd5.4147@nsw.nnrp.telstra.net... > > Goulburn? > > > > Why not? There's some U boat cars there. Yes, but something tells me they didn't go there under their own power, and not while they were still in service :) -- -- Marco Spaccavento rbgemini@iprimus.com.au
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: "graham beavan"
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 10:07
Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2002 10:07
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"Marco Spaccavento" <> Yes, but something tells me they didn't go there under their own power, and > not while they were still in service :) > Marco Spaccavento > rbgemini@iprimus.com.au > > With the quality (TIC) of some of the new drivers to the Intercity sector, one would not be surprised.
Re: 8067/9034 reborn 8020/9216
Author: maikhaly@yahoo.c
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:44
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 03:44
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Jonathan Lau <jonlau@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<3D717964.6521B1EF@ozemail.com.au>... > Marco Spaccavento wrote: > > > "M aikha" <maikhaly@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message > > news:fe1caff3.0208311401.7a8b9af8@posting.google.com... > > > > > > If I can locate this 2car V-SET in service somewhere on the network > > > (Lithgow? Kiama? Newcastle? Goulburn???). > > > > Goulburn? > > In Maikha's dreams. :) Yep, where a V-SET arrived into Goulburn, with its top completely ripped off, and the sides damaged beyond repair............ incurred when I tried to fit the V-SET through the tunnel at Picton (Or somewhere there) :-) Maikha "V" Ly theintercityplatform.iwarp.com
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