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solar 1kw installation; inverter rs232port
#99963
Author: tuppy
Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:55
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Many people (like myself) are installing 1kw grid tie inverter systems
to take advantage of rebate system. I am happy with it except the
solar installer doesnt have technical knowledge about interfacing to
the rs232 port on the inverter for data logging etc.  The inverter is
a generic rebadged brand so cant contact manufacturer. cms-2000
http://www.aussiesolar.com.au/inverter_CMS-2000.pdf

I am wondering if anyone has played with the serial port of their grid
tie. What baud rate? Can you use hyperterminal that comes with xp.
What command do you send to it?

Re: solar 1kw installation; inverter rs232port
#99964
Author: terryc
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:19
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On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 16:55:37 -0700, tuppy wrote:

> Many people (like myself) are installing 1kw grid tie inverter systems
> to take advantage of rebate system.

Who did you use?

>I am happy with it except the solar
> installer doesnt have technical knowledge about interfacing to the rs232
> port on the inverter for data logging etc.  The inverter is a generic
> rebadged brand so cant contact manufacturer. cms-2000
> http://www.aussiesolar.com.au/inverter_CMS-2000.pdf
>
> I am wondering if anyone has played with the serial port of their grid
> tie. What baud rate? Can you use hyperterminal that comes with xp. What
> command do you send to it?

nope, but there are two general problems;  wiring, then settings.

If you have never connected anything else to your serial port, you are on
a steep learning curve.

What wiring depends on what the ports on each end are. It depends if is
DTE or DCE on the solar boxen, whether you need a straight through or
crossover(null modem) cable.

Basically, there are null modem cables and null modem cables.

Then is depends on protocol, 9600, 8,N,1,P was common.

Practical steps, get a null modem cale and join them together. Load
hyperterminal, config for direct and above and tape the keys.

Try Xon/xoff forst over hardwire(?)

If you get garbage, especially a good strong string(menu?), then wiring
is generally okay and it is just a matter of protocol settings.

This sort of stuff is why I keep a couple of serial terminals around.
Save fighting terminal programs(hyper,mnicom,etc) to sort out basics.

Re: solar 1kw installation; inverter rs232port
#99973
Author: Eeyore
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:04
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tuppy wrote:

> Many people (like myself) are installing 1kw grid tie inverter systems
> to take advantage of rebate system.

You mean stealing other peoples' tax money. You should be ashamed of
yourself. Solar thermal is vastly better.

PV is a JOKE.

Graham


Re: solar 1kw installation; inverter rs232port
#99987
Author: terryc
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 00:54
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On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:04:14 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

> tuppy wrote:
>
>> Many people (like myself) are installing 1kw grid tie inverter systems
>> to take advantage of rebate system.
>
> You mean stealing other peoples' tax money.

With that attitude, I hope you have not accepted any government super co-
contributions.

Re: solar 1kw installation; inverter rs232port
#99979
Author: Franc Zabkar
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:47
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On 20 Apr 2009 01:19:24 GMT, terryc <newssevenspam-spam@woa.com.au>
put finger to keyboard and composed:

>What wiring depends on what the ports on each end are. It depends if is
>DTE or DCE on the solar boxen, whether you need a straight through or
>crossover(null modem) cable.

You can tell which pins are outputs by looking for +/-12V. Inputs will
probably be floating.

- Franc Zabkar
--
Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email.

Re: solar 1kw installation; inverter rs232port
#99995
Author: rebel
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 10:24
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On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 07:47:11 +1000, Franc Zabkar <fzabkar@iinternode.on.net>
wrote:

>On 20 Apr 2009 01:19:24 GMT, terryc <newssevenspam-spam@woa.com.au>
>put finger to keyboard and composed:
>
>>What wiring depends on what the ports on each end are. It depends if is
>>DTE or DCE on the solar boxen, whether you need a straight through or
>>crossover(null modem) cable.
>
>You can tell which pins are outputs by looking for +/-12V. Inputs will
>probably be floating.

Sometimes they appear to have very weak pullups (pull-downs?) but sticking a 1K
resistor to ground will sort out which pins are outputs and which aren't.

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