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21 total messages Started by "Lisa Wright" Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:48
Networking computers at home
#99544
Author: "Lisa Wright"
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 14:48
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Just wondering, what's the best and most efficient (and easy!) way to
network 2 computers at home? I need to do this for a course I'm on and
apparently both computers need to be running Windows 2000.

I've got network cards installed. What next?

Ta.

Lisa



Re: Networking computers at home
#99546
Author: "Lisa Wright"
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 15:06
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Thanks very much. Will have a good read and get started!

"atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3DAD6FCE.1D214A90@hotmail.com...
> a correctly made xover cable and this
> http://members.optushome.com.au/madmick3006/networking.htm
>
> Lisa Wright wrote:
> >
> > Just wondering, what's the best and most efficient (and easy!) way to
> > network 2 computers at home? I need to do this for a course I'm on and
> > apparently both computers need to be running Windows 2000.
> >
> > I've got network cards installed. What next?
> >
> > Ta.
> >
> > Lisa



Re: Networking computers at home
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Author: "atec77(nospam)"
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 23:55
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a correctly made xover cable and this
http://members.optushome.com.au/madmick3006/networking.htm

Lisa Wright wrote:
>
> Just wondering, what's the best and most efficient (and easy!) way to
> network 2 computers at home? I need to do this for a course I'm on and
> apparently both computers need to be running Windows 2000.
>
> I've got network cards installed. What next?
>
> Ta.
>
> Lisa

Re: Networking computers at home
#99556
Author: "gregh"
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:08
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"Lisa Wright" <l.wright8@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:g6er9.2957$v_5.213695@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net...
> Just wondering, what's the best and most efficient (and easy!) way to
> network 2 computers at home? I need to do this for a course I'm on and
> apparently both computers need to be running Windows 2000.
>
> I've got network cards installed. What next?
>

Not true about them both needing Win2K. I used to network 2 x 98SE computers
and now 2 x XP and 1 x 98SE all together.

If you have gotten the NICs properly installed and all is going OK, follow
this:

First off if you did an upgrade from a previous windows, find and get rid of
any NETBEUI which may be around.

Next, TCP/IP only on:

1) Computer connected directly to Internet. Assuming your ISP has auto
config, grab their DNS numbers, allow the ISP to assign IP auto unless you
have to have a static IP in which case fill that number in. In the DNS
section for that same ISP, fill in the DNS numbers. Now go to ADVANCED tab
and click on to "allow other network users to connect through this
computer's internet connection". Note that the network must be ENABLED to
see this option. On the LAN side of the same computer, call it 192.168.0.1
with subnet 255.255.255.0 and make sure firewalls to both ISP and LAN are
off on all machines for now.

2) Computer connected to LAN and not directly to Internet. Assign it as
192.168.0.2 same subnet. Install 192.168.0.1 as gateway in order to allow it
to find out how to get OUT to internet and enable DNS and fill in the DNS
numbers of your ISP.

Now, the machine on the lan knows where to find the DNS server and also
Internet. Note to make sure after all this is done, reboot both machines,
make sure firewalls are off and then see if you can see the other machines
and internet on both machines, which you will if your LAN hardware is
working OK.

Regards, Greg.



Re: Networking computers at home
#99557
Author: "gregh"
Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 07:09
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"atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3DAD6FCE.1D214A90@hotmail.com...
> a correctly made xover cable and this
> http://members.optushome.com.au/madmick3006/networking.htm
>


Whoops. HEH . I forgot that bit about the cable! ;-}


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99665
Author: "John"
Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 12:33
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Network config.
If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
and no loss of speed when starting the computer
load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
ie TCPIP slows the startup of computer HEAPS.
Enable sharing and select drives to share and share them.
Then goto find.. computer ..(name of other computer)
and map network drive. Reconnect at startup if you want.
This is not the 'bells an whistle' solution but there
is no sharing of tcpip between internet and network and
is fast and reliable.
--
John
Email:#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au

PS: remove #'s.

Re: Networking computers at home
#99752
Author: "gregh"
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:53
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"John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
> Network config.
> If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
> and no loss of speed when starting the computer
> load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
> or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
> in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.

Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede. Much simpler for
ongoing Windows upgrades just to manually config using TCP/IP the whole way.
Also damned fast that way, too.

> ie TCPIP slows the startup of computer HEAPS.

Nope.


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99790
Author: Bronzed Bodies (
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:33
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On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:36:15 GMT, derek
<add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote:

>On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:53:49 +1000, "gregh" <spam@abuse.someone.else> wrote:
>
>>
>>"John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
>>> Network config.
>>> If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
>>> and no loss of speed when starting the computer
>>> load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
>>> or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
>>> in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
>>
>>Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede.
>
>Not true, still supported in 98, ME,NT4,w2k and XP

Once again you contradict someone, only to provide incorrect
information.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/winsock/network_protocol_support_in_windows.asp

Re: Networking computers at home
#99791
Author: "atec77(nospam)"
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 23:00
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greggy m you talk shiite. hush now before your overly embarrassed.

Greg wrote:
>
> "John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
> > Network config.
> > If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
> > and no loss of speed when starting the computer
> > load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
> > or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
> > in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
>
> Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede. Much simpler for
> ongoing Windows upgrades just to manually config using TCP/IP the whole way.
> Also damned fast that way, too.
>
> > ie TCPIP slows the startup of computer HEAPS.
>
> Nope.
>
> --
> Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!

Re: Networking computers at home
#99805
Author: "gregh"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:56
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"derek" <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in message
news:jhb7ruc837jdgm3e0m0effdo4iolqq6vuf@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:53:49 +1000, "gregh" <spam@abuse.someone.else>
wrote:
>
> >
> >"John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> >news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
> >> Network config.
> >> If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
> >> and no loss of speed when starting the computer
> >> load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
> >> or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
> >> in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
> >
> >Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede.
>
> Not true, still supported in 98, ME,NT4,w2k and XP
>

Not true. No logner supported in XP and for the future either!


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99807
Author: "gregh"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:57
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"derek" <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in message
news:66p8ru4nie5k02odteeifamt8l8n2iv79a@4ax.com...
> Netbeui is supplied on EVERY XP cd.
>

Doesnt mean a thing. It is NOT supported any longer and if you really wanted
proof and not have to get up off your arse to find it, just try installing
NETBEUI in XP. You have to go find the damned thing on the CD. MS no logner
supports Netbeui.

> Microsoft would like to see it go, but it won't die.
>

It's already dead.


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99808
Author: "gregh"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:59
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Obviously to someone who knows ONLY shite, that would be true. I would
suggest you just peed in your own pants in front of everyone. HEHEHHE  - but
PLEASE don't STOP posting. We all enjoyed that laugh from YOU. More to come
from you I hope!


"atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3DB3FA71.41B1A3A@hotmail.com...
> greggy m you talk shiite. hush now before your overly embarrassed.
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > "John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
> > > Network config.
> > > If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
> > > and no loss of speed when starting the computer
> > > load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
> > > or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
> > > in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
> >
> > Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede. Much simpler
for
> > ongoing Windows upgrades just to manually config using TCP/IP the whole
way.
> > Also damned fast that way, too.
> >
> > > ie TCPIP slows the startup of computer HEAPS.
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > --
> > Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99813
Author: "atec77(nospam)"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:20
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is that the best you have  ?. I notice you don't deny your talking shiite. or
more precisely you don't have a proper grip of the realities , now try again and
maybe this time you will actually make an impression other than that of a
neophyte

Greg wrote:
>
> Obviously to someone who knows ONLY shite, that would be true. I would
> suggest you just peed in your own pants in front of everyone. HEHEHHE  - but
> PLEASE don't STOP posting. We all enjoyed that laugh from YOU. More to come
> from you I hope!
>
> "atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3DB3FA71.41B1A3A@hotmail.com...
> > greggy m you talk shiite. hush now before your overly embarrassed.
> >
> > Greg wrote:
> > >
> > > "John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
> > > > Network config.
> > > > If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
> > > > and no loss of speed when starting the computer
> > > > load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
> > > > or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
> > > > in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
> > >
> > > Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede. Much simpler
> for
> > > ongoing Windows upgrades just to manually config using TCP/IP the whole
> way.
> > > Also damned fast that way, too.
> > >
> > > > ie TCPIP slows the startup of computer HEAPS.
> > >
> > > Nope.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!

Re: Networking computers at home
#99825
Author: "Rod Speed"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:45
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derek <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in
message news:66p8ru4nie5k02odteeifamt8l8n2iv79a@4ax.com...

> Netbeui is supplied on EVERY XP cd.

Separate issue entirely to whats SUPPORTED.

The original just commented on what is SUPPORTED.

> Microsoft would like to see it go, but it won't die.

Separate issue entirely to whats SUPPORTED.

Pointless using it now anyway.


> Bronzed Bodies (Bronzed Bodies) wrote
>> derek <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote
>>> gregh <spam@abuse.someone.else> wrote
>>>> John <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote

>>>>> Network config.
>>>>> If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
>>>>> and no loss of speed when starting the computer
>>>>> load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
>>>>> or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
>>>>> in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.

>>>> Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede.

>>> Not true, still supported in 98, ME,NT4,w2k and XP

>> Once again you contradict someone,
>> only to provide incorrect information.

>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/winsock/network_protocol_support_in_windows.asp




Re: Networking computers at home
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Author: "gregh"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:36
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"atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3DB499BD.4F299166@hotmail.com...
> is that the best you have  ?. I notice you don't deny your talking shiite.
or

Probably because I didnt talk shite. You are the one exposing his little
weenie in public but not exposing knowledge at all!

> more precisely you don't have a proper grip of the realities , now try
again and
> maybe this time you will actually make an impression other than that of a

Problem is with wankers like you who don't have a clue what they are talking
about - you cant support your lack of knowledge. HAHAHAH keep posting. We
are all having fun laughing at your expense!


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99829
Author: "atec77(nospam)"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 14:52
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sigh , ok well patently obvious you are  with out reason
 spoonerism ?. more like a malapropism.

Greg wrote:
>
> "atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3DB499BD.4F299166@hotmail.com...
> > is that the best you have  ?. I notice you don't deny your talking shiite.
> or
>
> Probably because I didnt talk shite. You are the one exposing his little
> weenie in public but not exposing knowledge at all!
>
> > more precisely you don't have a proper grip of the realities , now try
> again and
> > maybe this time you will actually make an impression other than that of a
>
> Problem is with wankers like you who don't have a clue what they are talking
> about - you cant support your lack of knowledge. HAHAHAH keep posting. We
> are all having fun laughing at your expense!
>
> --
> Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!

Re: Networking computers at home
#99859
Author: Bronzed Bodies (
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:57
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:23:36 GMT, derek
<add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:57:50 +1000, "gregh" <spam@abuse.someone.else> wrote:
>
>>
>>"derek" <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in message
>>news:66p8ru4nie5k02odteeifamt8l8n2iv79a@4ax.com...
>>> Netbeui is supplied on EVERY XP cd.
>>>
>>
>>Doesnt mean a thing.
>
>Doesn't it.  If people still want it, what will happen?

Same thing that happened for people who still wanted Windows 3.1 and
95 supported.

They'll learn to get over it.

>> It is NOT supported any longer
>
>people keep saying that

Because that's what Microsoft themselves claim.

>> and if you really wanted
>>proof
>
>I don't want any proof

No doubt. I've already provided it, and you still continue your line
of bullshit.

Re: Networking computers at home
#99860
Author: Bronzed Bodies (
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 15:57
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On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:24:55 GMT, derek
<add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote:

>On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 12:45:51 +1000, "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>derek <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in
>>message news:66p8ru4nie5k02odteeifamt8l8n2iv79a@4ax.com...
>>
>>> Netbeui is supplied on EVERY XP cd.
>>
>>Separate issue entirely to whats SUPPORTED.
>
>You are the only one to comment on that :-)

Microsoft themselves have. It's listed in the URL below.

You can also look below to see your lies clearly documented.

>
>>The original just commented on what is SUPPORTED.
>>
>>> Microsoft would like to see it go, but it won't die.
>>
>>Separate issue entirely to whats SUPPORTED.
>>
>>Pointless using it now anyway.
>>
>>
>>> Bronzed Bodies (Bronzed Bodies) wrote
>>>> derek <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote
>>>>> gregh <spam@abuse.someone.else> wrote
>>>>>> John <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote
>>
>>>>>>> Network config.
>>>>>>> If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
>>>>>>> and no loss of speed when starting the computer
>>>>>>> load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
>>>>>>> or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
>>>>>>> in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
>>
>>>>>> Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede.
>>
>>>>> Not true, still supported in 98, ME,NT4,w2k and XP
>>
>>>> Once again you contradict someone,
>>>> only to provide incorrect information.
>>
>>>>http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/winsock/winsock/network_protocol_support_in_windows.asp
>>
>>
>


Re: Networking computers at home
#99841
Author: "gregh"
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 18:28
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The only real problem here is that you have obviously given up on giving us
a laugh at your expense. Damn. I thought you had more stupidity in you yet.
You can do it. Keep posting! Keep us laughing with your obvious lack of
knowledge!!


"atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3DB4D992.81CE28BE@hotmail.com...
> sigh , ok well patently obvious you are  with out reason
>  spoonerism ?. more like a malapropism.
>
> Greg wrote:
> >
> > "atec77(nospam)" <"atec77(nospam)"@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:3DB499BD.4F299166@hotmail.com...
> > > is that the best you have  ?. I notice you don't deny your talking
shiite.
> > or
> >
> > Probably because I didnt talk shite. You are the one exposing his little
> > weenie in public but not exposing knowledge at all!
> >
> > > more precisely you don't have a proper grip of the realities , now try
> > again and
> > > maybe this time you will actually make an impression other than that
of a
> >
> > Problem is with wankers like you who don't have a clue what they are
talking
> > about - you cant support your lack of knowledge. HAHAHAH keep posting.
We
> > are all having fun laughing at your expense!
> >
> > --
> > Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99868
Author: "gregh"
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 07:18
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<Bronzed Bodies (Bronzed Bodies)> wrote in message
news:3db56f0d.9918118@news.cis.dfn.de...
> On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:23:36 GMT, derek
> <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:57:50 +1000, "gregh" <spam@abuse.someone.else>
wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>"derek" <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in message
> >>news:66p8ru4nie5k02odteeifamt8l8n2iv79a@4ax.com...
> >>> Netbeui is supplied on EVERY XP cd.
> >>>
> >>
> >>Doesnt mean a thing.
> >
> >Doesn't it.  If people still want it, what will happen?
>
> Same thing that happened for people who still wanted Windows 3.1 and
> 95 supported.
>
> They'll learn to get over it.
>

Actually, Win2K has had a revision on it's time for death. ;-} Maybe the
3.1ers will get their way! HAHAHAHA! ;-}

> >> It is NOT supported any longer
> >
> >people keep saying that
>
> Because that's what Microsoft themselves claim.
>
> >> and if you really wanted
> >>proof
> >
> >I don't want any proof
>
> No doubt. I've already provided it, and you still continue your line
> of bullshit.

Does, doesn't he?


--
Friar Tuck was always the butt of Spoonerism Jokes from the Merry Men!



Re: Networking computers at home
#99872
Author: "Rod Speed"
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 08:41
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derek <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in
message news:43v9ruciiokkf8jb5462pm27jbam42nith@4ax.com...

> How come its on EVERY XP cd?

Quite a bit of what isnt SUPPORTED is still
supplied in case you dont mind being on your own.


> On Tue, 22 Oct 2002 07:56:25 +1000, "gregh" <spam@abuse.someone.else> wrote:
>
> >
> >"derek" <add-this-address-to-your-database1@sgrail.org> wrote in message
> >news:jhb7ruc837jdgm3e0m0effdo4iolqq6vuf@4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 07:53:49 +1000, "gregh" <spam@abuse.someone.else>
> >wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"John" <#jrfeng#@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> >> >news:01c2769a$7ecb77a0$dac23c3f@mine...
> >> >> Network config.
> >> >> If you want the simplest that works with and windows-windows
> >> >> and no loss of speed when starting the computer
> >> >> load the NIC, connect crossover cable if UTP,
> >> >> or just straight coax if 10BaseT, give each a name
> >> >> in Network settings and link only netbui to NIC.
> >> >
> >> >Netbeui is no longer supported by MS so should be avoidede.
> >>
> >> Not true, still supported in 98, ME,NT4,w2k and XP
> >>
> >
> >Not true. No logner supported in XP and for the future either!
>



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