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Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17897
Author: Ubiquitous
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 04:30
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https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR

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Re: Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17904
Author: Ubiquitous
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 11:45
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liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
> Op 10-1-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:

>> https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR
>
>More proof it's another continuity, another timeline all together.
>That was clear from the beginning of DSC (and SNW).

I hate to defend STD, but doesn't it take place before Captain Kirk's time?

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Re: Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17900
Author: Wouter Valentijn
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 14:32
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Op 10-1-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
> https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
>

More proof it's another continuity, another timeline all together.
That was clear from the beginning of DSC (and SNW).

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Wouter Valentijn

Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless

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Re: Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17907
Author: Wouter Valentijn
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 19:58
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Op 10-1-2025 om 17:45 schreef Ubiquitous:
> liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
>> Op 10-1-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>
>>> https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR
>>
>> More proof it's another continuity, another timeline all together.
>> That was clear from the beginning of DSC (and SNW).
>
> I hate to defend STD, but doesn't it take place before Captain Kirk's time?
>

The first two seasons do. And after 'The Cage'.
But it is very clear that technology is very more advanced than what we
know from TOS.
For instance holographic communication of a type that was introduced in
the later seasons of DS9, in the 24th century. Here in Discovery we see
it being used from the first episode on.
Another example is intraship beaming. We learn from 'Day of the Dove' it
is very dangerous and ill advised. Yet, on the USS Discovery it is
something they do regularly.
Than the Enterprise. She looks better than the Kelvinverse version, but
it is clearly different.

 From the third season on, the Discovery is transported to the 32d
century. I haven't seen seasons 4 and 5.

Over at 'Strange New Worlds' we have a situation where we learn that in
their timeline (and thus Discovery), Khan was not active in the 1990s,
as he was in TOS, but in the 21st century. They say it is due to the
temporal cold wars etc., but a change that significant signals to me it
is like as different as the Kelvinverse, so another timeline. But that's
my personal take. The official word is that it is still the Prime
Timeline. But I really don't agree with that.


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Wouter Valentijn

Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless

http://www.nksf.nl/
Re: Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17909
Author: anim8rfsk
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2025 20:26
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Wouter Valentijn <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> Op 10-1-2025 om 17:45 schreef Ubiquitous:
>> liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
>>> Op 10-1-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>
>>>> https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR
>>>
>>> More proof it's another continuity, another timeline all together.
>>> That was clear from the beginning of DSC (and SNW).
>>
>> I hate to defend STD, but doesn't it take place before Captain Kirk's time?
>>
>
> The first two seasons do. And after 'The Cage'.
> But it is very clear that technology is very more advanced than what we
> know from TOS.
> For instance holographic communication of a type that was introduced in
> the later seasons of DS9, in the 24th century. Here in Discovery we see
> it being used from the first episode on.
> Another example is intraship beaming. We learn from 'Day of the Dove' it
> is very dangerous and ill advised. Yet, on the USS Discovery it is
> something they do regularly.
> Than the Enterprise. She looks better than the Kelvinverse version, but
> it is clearly different.
>
> From the third season on, the Discovery is transported to the 32d
> century. I haven't seen seasons 4 and 5.
>
> Over at 'Strange New Worlds' we have a situation where we learn that in
> their timeline (and thus Discovery), Khan was not active in the 1990s,
> as he was in TOS, but in the 21st century. They say it is due to the
> temporal cold wars etc., but a change that significant signals to me it
> is like as different as the Kelvinverse, so another timeline. But that's
> my personal take. The official word is that it is still the Prime
> Timeline. But I really don't agree with that.

Even TNG isn’t in the TOS timeline since Data got the Earth date wrong in
the first season episode “ The Neutral Zone”



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Re: Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17911
Author: anim8rfsk
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 19:14
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Wouter Valentijn <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
> Op 12-1-2025 om 04:26 schreef anim8rfsk:
>> Wouter Valentijn <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 10-1-2025 om 17:45 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>>> liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
>>>>> Op 10-1-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>>>
>>>>>> https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR
>>>>>
>>>>> More proof it's another continuity, another timeline all together.
>>>>> That was clear from the beginning of DSC (and SNW).
>>>>
>>>> I hate to defend STD, but doesn't it take place before Captain Kirk's time?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The first two seasons do. And after 'The Cage'.
>>> But it is very clear that technology is very more advanced than what we
>>> know from TOS.
>>> For instance holographic communication of a type that was introduced in
>>> the later seasons of DS9, in the 24th century. Here in Discovery we see
>>> it being used from the first episode on.
>>> Another example is intraship beaming. We learn from 'Day of the Dove' it
>>> is very dangerous and ill advised. Yet, on the USS Discovery it is
>>> something they do regularly.
>>> Than the Enterprise. She looks better than the Kelvinverse version, but
>>> it is clearly different.
>>>
>>> From the third season on, the Discovery is transported to the 32d
>>> century. I haven't seen seasons 4 and 5.
>>>
>>> Over at 'Strange New Worlds' we have a situation where we learn that in
>>> their timeline (and thus Discovery), Khan was not active in the 1990s,
>>> as he was in TOS, but in the 21st century. They say it is due to the
>>> temporal cold wars etc., but a change that significant signals to me it
>>> is like as different as the Kelvinverse, so another timeline. But that's
>>> my personal take. The official word is that it is still the Prime
>>> Timeline. But I really don't agree with that.
>>
>> Even TNG isn’t in the TOS timeline since Data got the Earth date wrong in
>> the first season episode “ The Neutral Zone”
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Yes. That's when they began to slide.
>

And rather than just admit, that Data was wrong. they decided to retcon the
entire original series. Idiots.

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Re: Star Trek Discovery Claims to Be The First Ship To Ever Leave The Galaxy Contradicting TOS & TNG
#17910
Author: Wouter Valentijn
Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 21:27
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Op 12-1-2025 om 04:26 schreef anim8rfsk:
> Wouter Valentijn <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 10-1-2025 om 17:45 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>> liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
>>>> Op 10-1-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>>
>>>>> https://youtu.be/Pkj4kbr32Sw?si=NoTLkUoo5HAUMKfR
>>>>
>>>> More proof it's another continuity, another timeline all together.
>>>> That was clear from the beginning of DSC (and SNW).
>>>
>>> I hate to defend STD, but doesn't it take place before Captain Kirk's time?
>>>
>>
>> The first two seasons do. And after 'The Cage'.
>> But it is very clear that technology is very more advanced than what we
>> know from TOS.
>> For instance holographic communication of a type that was introduced in
>> the later seasons of DS9, in the 24th century. Here in Discovery we see
>> it being used from the first episode on.
>> Another example is intraship beaming. We learn from 'Day of the Dove' it
>> is very dangerous and ill advised. Yet, on the USS Discovery it is
>> something they do regularly.
>> Than the Enterprise. She looks better than the Kelvinverse version, but
>> it is clearly different.
>>
>>  From the third season on, the Discovery is transported to the 32d
>> century. I haven't seen seasons 4 and 5.
>>
>> Over at 'Strange New Worlds' we have a situation where we learn that in
>> their timeline (and thus Discovery), Khan was not active in the 1990s,
>> as he was in TOS, but in the 21st century. They say it is due to the
>> temporal cold wars etc., but a change that significant signals to me it
>> is like as different as the Kelvinverse, so another timeline. But that's
>> my personal take. The official word is that it is still the Prime
>> Timeline. But I really don't agree with that.
>
> Even TNG isn’t in the TOS timeline since Data got the Earth date wrong in
> the first season episode “ The Neutral Zone”
>
>
>


Yes. That's when they began to slide.

--
Wouter Valentijn

Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless

http://www.nksf.nl/
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