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Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article <mdpsgrFnt0dU1@mid.individual.net>, did
> liamreverse@valentijn.nu deliver unto us this message:
>>
>> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.
>
> How did someone from a primate species devolve into a spider? Or did
> they bother explaining that?

Because Brannon Braga is deeply stupid.

He once said in an interview that he didn’t understand what tricorders did,
but he was certain they used them way too often.


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Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one
> has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
> video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
> illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe-
> worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how they
> ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into the
> world of bad Star Trek.
>
> https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG
>
> Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup
> between The Empath and the Halloween ep.
>

The empath is the clear hands-down worst episode winner. Accept no
substitutes.



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WolfFan <akwolffan@zoho.com> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 2025, anim8rfsk wrote
> (in
> article<1431816875.773771757.052997.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>):
>
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
>>> Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one
>>> has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
>>> video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
>>> illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe-
>>> worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how
>>> they
>>> ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into
>>> the
>>> world of bad Star Trek.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG
>>>
>>> Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup
>>> between The Empath and the Halloween ep.
>>
>> The empath is the clear hands-down worst episode winner. Accept no
>> substitutes.
>
> No. The Empath is at worst #4. Below it would be Spock’s Brain (#1, by a
> wide margin) plus The Omega Glory in #2, just edging out Sub Rosa from TNG.
> The Empath is bad, but it’s not as bad as The Omega Glory or Sub Rosa and
> is miles ahead of Spock’s Brain.

Lots of TNG is worse than the worst of TOS. Most of it features gates
McMuffin in front of or behind the camera.



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On Jul 9, 2025, anim8rfsk wrote
(in
article<1431816875.773771757.052997.anim8rfsk-cox.net@news.easynews.com>):

> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:
> > Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no one
> > has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In this
> > video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy, the
> > illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script, cringe-
> > worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you wonder how
> > they
> > ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready to blast off into
> > the
> > world of bad Star Trek.
> >
> > https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG
> >
> > Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a tossup
> > between The Empath and the Halloween ep.
>
> The empath is the clear hands-down worst episode winner. Accept no
> substitutes.

No. The Empath is at worst #4. Below it would be Spock’s Brain (#1, by a
wide margin) plus The Omega Glory in #2, just edging out Sub Rosa from TNG.
The Empath is bad, but it’s not as bad as The Omega Glory or Sub Rosa and
is miles ahead of Spock’s Brain.

Verily, in article
<0001HW.2E23F6FE029A8AC57000036D438F@news.supernews.com>, did
akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
> No. The Empath is at worst #4. Below it would be Spock?s Brain (#1, by
a
> wide margin) plus The Omega Glory in #2, just edging out Sub Rosa from TNG.
> The Empath is bad, but it?s not as bad as The Omega Glory or Sub Rosa and
> is miles ahead of Spock?s Brain.

"Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it is.

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Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article
> <0001HW.2E23F6FE029A8AC57000036D438F@news.supernews.com>, did
> akwolffan@zoho.com deliver unto us this message:
>> No. The Empath is at worst #4. Below it would be Spock?s Brain (#1, by
> a
>> wide margin) plus The Omega Glory in #2, just edging out Sub Rosa from TNG.
>> The Empath is bad, but it?s not as bad as The Omega Glory or Sub Rosa and
>> is miles ahead of Spock?s Brain.
>
> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it is.
>

The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that Star
Trek didn’t do comedies (because he wouldn’t verse himself in the episode
they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.

But at least it’s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe worthy.
And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any of DS nine.
Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new trek.

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akwolffan@zoho.com wrote:
>On Jul 9, 2025, anim8rfsk wrote
>> Ubiquitous <weberm@polaris.net> wrote:

>>> Star Trek: The Original Series....why?? Join me as I boldly go where no
>>> one has gone before... to the depths af terrible Star Trek episode! In
>>> this video, I'll be exploring the worst of the worst, the cringe-worthy,
>>> the illogical, and the just plain bad. Was it a poorly written script,
>>> cringe-worthy acting, I'll be diving into the episode that makes you
>>> wonder how they ever made it to air. So, grab your phaser and get ready
>>> to blast off into the world of bad Star Trek.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/NXSQV1MY5xI?si=DKXkRTenoFW396sG
>>>
>>> Just who does IBDM let vote? This is a middling one. For me, it's a
>>> tossup between The Empath and the Halloween ep.
>>
>> The empath is the clear hands-down worst episode winner. Accept no
>> substitutes.
>
>No. The Empath is at worst #4. Below it would be Spock's Brain (#1, by a
>wide margin) plus The Omega Glory in #2, just edging out Sub Rosa from TNG.
>The Empath is bad, but it's not as bad as The Omega Glory or Sub Rosa and
>is miles ahead of Spock's Brain.


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thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
> akwolffan@zoho.com wrote:

>> No. The Empath is at worst #4. Below it would be Spock?s Brain (#1, by
> >a wide margin) plus The Omega Glory in #2, just edging out Sub Rosa from
>> TNG. The Empath is bad, but it?s not as bad as The Omega Glory or Sub
>> Rosa and is miles ahead of Spock?s Brain.
>
>"Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it is.

It might be worse, but it's so bad that it's entertaining (funny).

The Empath is stupid _and_ not entertaining.

Verily, in article <55256506.774145636.855378.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
message:
>
> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
> > haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
> > is.
>
> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that Star
> Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the episode
> they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.

I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.

> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe worthy.
> And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any of DS nine.
> Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new trek.

Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
Brain"?

I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.

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Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article <55256506.774145636.855378.anim8rfsk-
> cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
> message:
>>
>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>>> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
>>> is.
>>
>> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
>> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that Star
>> Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the episode
>> they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.
>
> I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.
>
>> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe worthy.
>> And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any of DS nine.
>> Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new trek.
>
> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
> Brain"?
>
> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>

The aforementioned sub rosa.

That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.

That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
into a different species.

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>
> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Verily, in article <55256506.774145636.855378.anim8rfsk-
> > cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
> > message:
> >>
> >> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>
> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>
> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>
> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
> into a different species.

LOL, I must have missed that one. Or repressed it.

What about the one where Wesley turns into a Native American god? I
think they'd stopped trying by that point.

Judging by the list of bad episodes we've generated, I think they should
stop turning the crew into things.

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Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article <108810748.774208056.237663.anim8rfsk-
> cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
> message:
>>
>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Verily, in article <55256506.774145636.855378.anim8rfsk-
>>> cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
>>> message:
>>>>
>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>
>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>
>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>
>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
>> into a different species.
>
> LOL, I must have missed that one. Or repressed it.
>

The best part is data’s cat Spot turns into an iguana. Because cats evolved
from iguanas. How could anyone be stupid enough to write that? Two words:
Brannon Braga.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708723/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk


> What about the one where Wesley turns into a Native American god? I
> think they'd stopped trying by that point.

He still is the native American God in Picard.

Although will Wheaton is so mentally ill at this point that he’s
complaining about them not letting him appear in Picard even though he did
appear as a native American God. He also complains about them not putting
him in one of the movies that he’s clearly in at the wedding reception.

You and I have tried to block him out but amazingly he’s actually blocked
himself out.


>
> Judging by the list of bad episodes we've generated, I think they should
> stop turning the crew into things.
>

Lol

Certainly, they should stop trying to turn gates McMuffin into a Director.
Or, for that matter, an actress.


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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>>>> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
>>>> is.
>>>
>>> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
>>> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that
>>> Star Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the
>>> episode they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.
>>
>> I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.
>>
>>> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe
>>> worthy.And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any
>>> of DS nine.Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new
>>> trek.
>>
>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>> Brain"?
>>
>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>
>The aforementioned sub rosa.
>
>That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.

AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!

>That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
>into a different species.

I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc

thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>
>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>
>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>
>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise
>> devolves into a different species.
>
>LOL, I must have missed that one. Or repressed it.
>
>What about the one where Wesley turns into a Native American god? I
>think they'd stopped trying by that point.

Chnage my mind: The Travel Agent is a space PDF File.

Verily, in article <1055d5l$1h8s$3@dont-email.me>, did
weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc

The idea of an interstellar hybrid is ridiculous on the face of it, so I
guess they just picked one parent. Betazoids allegedly evolved from
spiderlike creatures? That really don't seem likely.

Why do we keep watching this franchise when it has so many dumb
episodes? :0


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Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article <1055d5l$1h8s$3@dont-email.me>, did
> weberm@polaris.net deliver unto us this message:
>> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
>> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>
> The idea of an interstellar hybrid is ridiculous on the face of it, so I
> guess they just picked one parent. Betazoids allegedly evolved from
> spiderlike creatures? That really don't seem likely.
>
> Why do we keep watching this franchise when it has so many dumb
> episodes? :0

I stopped a couple of iterations ago



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Verily, in article <mdpsgrFnt0dU1@mid.individual.net>, did
liamreverse@valentijn.nu deliver unto us this message:
>
> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.

How did someone from a primate species devolve into a spider? Or did
they bother explaining that?

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The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
> In article <mdpsgrFnt0dU1@mid.individual.net>,
> Wouter Valentijn  <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>> Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>>>>>>> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
>>>>>> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that
>>>>>> Star Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the
>>>>>> episode they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.
>>>>>
>>>>>> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe
>>>>>> worthy.And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any
>>>>>> of DS nine.Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new
>>>>>> trek.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>>>>> Brain"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>>>>
>>>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>>>
>>>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>>
>>> AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!
>>>
>>>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
>>>> into a different species.
>>>
>>> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
>>> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.
>>
>> --
>> Wouter Valentijn
>>
>> Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
>> Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless
>>
>> http://www.nksf.nl/
>
> Nice to see you again.

Ditto!

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Verily, in article <1214903527.774381144.104423.anim8rfsk-
cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
message:
>
> Because Brannon Braga is deeply stupid.
>
> He once said in an interview that he didn?t understand what tricorders did,
> but he was certain they used them way too often.


You know, if I were going to revive a beloved franchise, I would choose
a showrunner who liked the original material. It's amazing how few
exectives seem to think of this.

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In article <mdpsgrFnt0dU1@mid.individual.net>,
Wouter Valentijn  <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>>>> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>>>>>> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
>>>>>> is.
>>>>>
>>>>> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
>>>>> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that
>>>>> Star Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the
>>>>> episode they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.
>>>>
>>>> I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.
>>>>
>>>>> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe
>>>>> worthy.And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any
>>>>> of DS nine.Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new
>>>>> trek.
>>>>
>>>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>>>> Brain"?
>>>>
>>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>>>
>>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>>
>>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>
>> AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!
>>
>>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
>>> into a different species.
>>
>> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
>> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>>
>>
>
>Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.
>
>--
>Wouter Valentijn
>
>Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
>Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless
>
>http://www.nksf.nl/

Nice to see you again.
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Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>>>>> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
>>>>> is.
>>>>
>>>> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
>>>> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that
>>>> Star Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the
>>>> episode they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.
>>>
>>>> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe
>>>> worthy.And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any
>>>> of DS nine.Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new
>>>> trek.
>>>
>>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>>> Brain"?
>>>
>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>>
>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>
>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>
> AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!
>
>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
>> into a different species.
>
> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>
>

Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.

--
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Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless

http://www.nksf.nl/

Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article <1214903527.774381144.104423.anim8rfsk-
> cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
> message:
>>
>> Because Brannon Braga is deeply stupid.
>>
>> He once said in an interview that he didn?t understand what tricorders did,
>> but he was certain they used them way too often.
>
>
> You know, if I were going to revive a beloved franchise, I would choose
> a showrunner who liked the original material. It's amazing how few
> exectives seem to think of this.

TNG couldn’t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the working
environment much of which was Patrick Stewart’s bad behavior.  About
halfway through the series run having burned through everybody talented
they had worked their way down to Braga.



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>
> TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the working
> environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior.  About
> halfway through the series run having burned through everybody talented
> they had worked their way down to Braga.

Hunh. What was he doing?

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On 7/17/2025 1:16 PM, Melissa Hollingsworth wrote:
> Verily, in article <1608275089.774410252.295664.anim8rfsk-
> cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
> message:
>>
>> TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the working
>> environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior.  About
>> halfway through the series run having burned through everybody talented
>> they had worked their way down to Braga.
>
> Hunh. What was he doing?
>
Producing IIRC.

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liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
>Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>>>> Brain"?
>>>>
>>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>>>
>>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>>
>>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>
>> AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!
>>
>>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise
>>> devolves into a different species.
>>
>> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
>> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>
> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.

That's even worse in Barclay's case, because he's a human!

Troi might be of space-French descent, however.

thetruemelissa@gmail.com wrote:
>anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this message:

>> TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
>> working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart's bad behavior.
>> About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
>> talented they had worked their way down to Braga.
>
>Hunh. What was he doing?

Stewart was constantly demanding eps with Picard as a romantic action
character.

I remember around the first season, he had a tantrum because his cast-mates
weren't "acting professional" enough and had toi tlak him out of his locked
trailer.

Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> Verily, in article <1608275089.774410252.295664.anim8rfsk-
> cox.net@news.easynews.com>, did anim8rfsk@cox.net deliver unto us this
> message:
>>
>> TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the working
>> environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior.  About
>> halfway through the series run having burned through everybody talented
>> they had worked their way down to Braga.
>
> Hunh. What was he doing?
>

He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the set,
sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to do he
storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a nightmare
it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand them script
changes he wanted. But that’s not the chain of command. Actors don’t tell
the writers to make changes. If they want them, they go to the producer or
the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine what a nightmare it
would be if all the actors were constantly coming to the scriptwriter with
changes? And it was bad enough they’d quit.

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Op 16-7-2025 om 19:54 schreef anim8rfsk:
> The Doctor <doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> wrote:
>> In article <mdpsgrFnt0dU1@mid.individual.net>,
>> Wouter Valentijn  <liamreverse@valentijn.nu> wrote:
>>> Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Spock's Brain" may be the worst episode of any Star Trek series. I
>>>>>>>> haven't seen every episode of every series, but I still suspect it
>>>>>>>> is.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The writer intended it as a comedy and little Freddie Fryberger, the new
>>>>>>> producer who was trying to destroy the show declared arbitrarily that
>>>>>>> Star Trek didn?t do comedies (because he wouldn?t verse himself in the
>>>>>>> episode they already done) and had them shoot a comedy script as a drama.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm trying to imagine as a comedy. Hunh.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But at least it?s laughable. The Empath is simply stupid and cringe
>>>>>>> worthy.And I can think of a dozen worse episodes of TNG. Maybe not any
>>>>>>> of DS nine.Almost all of Voyager. Much of Enterprise. And all of new
>>>>>>> trek.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>>>>>> Brain"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>>>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>>>>>
>>>>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>>>>
>>>>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>>>
>>>> AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!
>>>>
>>>>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise devolves
>>>>> into a different species.
>>>>
>>>> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
>>>> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Wouter Valentijn
>>>
>>> Xander: "I'm a Comfortador also."
>>> Buffy the Vampire Slayer (s04e22): Restless
>>>
>>> http://www.nksf.nl/
>>
>> Nice to see you again.
>
> Ditto!
>



Thank you!

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Op 16-7-2025 om 17:20 schreef Melissa Hollingsworth:
> Verily, in article <mdpsgrFnt0dU1@mid.individual.net>, did
> liamreverse@valentijn.nu deliver unto us this message:
>>
>> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.
>
> How did someone from a primate species devolve into a spider? Or did
> they bother explaining that?
>


They did not.

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anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>> anim8rfsk@cox.net delivered unto us this message:

>>> TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
>>> working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior.
>>> About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
>>> talented they had worked their way down to Braga.
>>
>> Hunh. What was he doing?
>
>He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the set,
>sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to do he
>storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

I hadn't heard about that one before.

>As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a nightmare
>it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand them script
>changes he wanted. But that's not the chain of command. Actors don't tell
>the writers to make changes. If they want them, they go to the producer or
>the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine what a nightmare it
>would be if all the actors were constantly coming to the scriptwriter with
>changes? And it was bad enough they'd quit.

And his insistance of getting some romantic and action eps, hence whats-her-
name on Risa and the Die Hard ripoff.

Verily, in article <105dlti$23hlj$5@dont-email.me>, did
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>
> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
> > Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> anim8rfsk@cox.net delivered unto us this message:
>
> >>> TNG couldn?t keep qualified writers or story editors because of the
> >>> working environment much of which was Patrick Stewart?s bad behavior.
> >>> About halfway through the series run having burned through everybody
> >>> talented they had worked their way down to Braga.
> >>
> >> Hunh. What was he doing?
> >
> >He was infamous for pulling childish crap, like if any visitor to the set,
> >sat in the captains chair, which they all obviously would want to do he
> >storm off the set in a hissy fit and not come back that day.

I did a search on on-set tantrums from him, and I found one story from
the first season which ends which everybody having a good laugh about it
all. I knew immediately that it was a planted story to confuse the
search results for things like "Patrick Stewart throws a fit." Since it
was clearly planted, I figured there must have been a series of other
tantrums to be concealed.

The captain's chair, really? Part of the set? Was he going nuts and
confusing himself with Picard? :D


> >As far as the writers went a couple of them talked about what a
nightmare
> >it was in an article in starlog and they said he would hand them script
> >changes he wanted. But that's not the chain of command. Actors don't tell
> >the writers to make changes. If they want them, they go to the producer or
> >the story, editor or a showrunner. Can you imagine what a nightmare it
> >would be if all the actors were constantly coming to the scriptwriter with
> >changes? And it was bad enough they'd quit.
>
> And his insistance of getting some romantic and action eps, hence whats-her-
> name on Risa and the Die Hard ripoff.

You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.


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>
> In <MPG.42e428d6d6c83d5b98972e@news.eternal-september.org> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> >You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.
>
> the Yul Brinner, Kojak, (some) Bruce Willis...
>
> there's a subset of people who consider baldness attractive.

Yes, and they're fairly loud about it, but I still wonder why they
picked him. He's not handsome. He just isn't. I don't want to get into
cataloging his faults, but come on.

I suspect some people call others "sexy" when it's really something else
they admire, thinking that sexiness is the highest possible compliment.
Just a pet theory I have.



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In <MPG.42e428d6d6c83d5b98972e@news.eternal-september.org> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> writes:

[snip]

>You know, I never understood why some people insisted Picard was sexy.

the Yul Brinner, Kojak, (some) Bruce Willis...

there's a subset of people who consider baldness attractive.



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Op 18-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
> liamreverse@valentijn.nu wrote:
>> Op 15-7-2025 om 10:30 schreef Ubiquitous:
>>> anim8rfsk@cox.net wrote:
>>>> Melissa Hollingsworth <thetruemelissa@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>>>> Really? What episodes of TNG would you say are worse than "Spock's
>>>>> Brain"?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess there was that one where the bridge crew turned into children.
>>>>> That was an eyeroller. I'd still call "Spock's Brain" worse, though.
>>>>
>>>> The aforementioned sub rosa.
>>>>
>>>> That one towards the end where data turns into a Mayan.
>>>
>>> AKA, The Brent Spiner One-Man Acting Extraviganza!
>>>
>>>> That one Gates McMuffin directed where everybody on the Enterprise
>>>> devolves into a different species.
>>>
>>> I hate magic DNA but I hate when they get the real stuff wrong. Geordi
>>> didn't "devolved" into a primate, Troi "devolved" into an arachnid, etc
>>
>> Troi was amphibious. Barclay was the spider.
>
> That's even worse in Barclay's case, because he's a human!
>
> Troi might be of space-French descent, however.
>


Considering Betazoid libido.

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