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On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
: There's alot of "what ifs" in that! By the fourth quarter this
: game will be over!

There's no what-ifs about it:

	Bill Cowher is good.
	Barry Switzer is a putz.

That alone should guarantee the Steelers a victory.

[Wait a sec, I'm rooting for the Steelers!?  WHAT AM I DOING, MAN!?]

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In <4djjov$n6i@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Big Al
<ajgst9@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu> writes:
>

>Well, Genius, lets take your points one-by-one.
>1.  Neil O'Donnell is suspect.
>Exactly what do you mean by "suspect"?

I think he is a suspect.  Maybe that's why he grew that awful beard.

In <4djltp$qi8@ixnews3.ix.netcom.com> slydrule@ix.netcom.com(Rich DeLia
) writes:
>
>In <4djjov$n6i@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Big Al
><ajgst9@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu> writes:
>>
>
>>Well, Genius, lets take your points one-by-one.
>>1.  Neil O'Donnell is suspect.
>>Exactly what do you mean by "suspect"?
>
>I think he is a suspect.  Maybe that's why he grew that awful beard.

Sorry, but THAT was hilarious!

I have to disagree.  To me, the biggest problem will be when the Steeler
offense gets on the field.  O'Donnell, to me, is suspect.  The recievers
are above average.  There isn't one of them that Deion can't shut down.
Their passing game is much improved, from downright awful to slightly
above average.  Their running game has gone from great to also slightly
above average.  I'll put it this way:  you can stop either one without
getting killed by the other.  As we all know, this isn't the case with
the Cowgirls.  One way or another, you're getting scored on.  And now
with the Cowgirl Defense back up to par, you can forget it.  The Steelers
can hang in there maybe until halftime, but if you're a betting man take
the 'Pokes with the points.

Robert Bonnette

If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.



In article <4dhk8g$t6v@news1.panix.com>, sleepymatt@goboys.com says...
>
>lej@paradyne.com (Leo James) wrote:
>
>>I know, I know, it sounds totally ludicrous to many of you
>>NFC fans.  As an NFC fan myself, it's hard for me to bring
>>myself to say it;  but I think the Steelers have a good op-
>>portunity to win this Super Bowl.
>
>>Keep in mind, one team managed to beat these Cowboys twice
>>this season.
>
>>The Washington Redskins.
>
>>They did it, IMO, by pitting their undersized D-line, which
>>was a detriment on most Sundays, against the mammoth O-line
>>of the Cowboys.  They shot the gaps.  They confused the run
>>blocking.  They got to Aikman.  And, when they got the lead,
>>they had a back like Terry Allen who could run the ball.
>
>>What if the Steelers play it the same way?
>
>>They can't line up and plan mano-a-mano with the Dallas Cow-
>>boys and I think they know that.  But, what if Cowher comes
>>up with a way to disrupt the Dallas offense?  What if Lloyd
>>and Greene get to Aikman and Smith early?  What if they man-
>>age to incorporate Morris into the attack such that they're
>>in this ballgame late in the 3rd period?   If this is still
>>a ballgame into the 4th quarter, could Kordell Stewart be a
>>factor?
>
>Your points are well taken, but there is a big difference between the
>Redskins and Steelers, that being Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense plays right
>into the Cowboys' strengths.  Pitting a linebacker, no matter how
>awesome a linebacker he is, against a Cowboys offensive lineman is a
>silly idea.  Throw Darryl Johnston into the mix and Troy Aikman isn't
>going to be touched very often.  Another key feature of a
>linebacker-driven offense is that they are extremely susceptible to
>play action, which the Cowboys will given them over and over.
>
>There is a similarity between the Skins and Steelers worth mentioning.
>Neil O'Donnell is about as capable of beating the Cowboys as Gus
>Frerotte or Heath Shuler.
>
>This is the Super Bowl.  The Cowboys will come ready to play.  The
>Steelers CAN'T win.
>

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The Genius <rbonne1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
>I have to disagree.  To me, the biggest problem will be when the Steeler
>offense gets on the field.  O'Donnell, to me, is suspect.  The recievers
>are above average.  There isn't one of them that Deion can't shut down.
>Their passing game is much improved, from downright awful to slightly
>above average.  Their running game has gone from great to also slightly
>above average.  I'll put it this way:  you can stop either one without
>getting killed by the other.  As we all know, this isn't the case with
>the Cowgirls.  One way or another, you're getting scored on.  And now
>with the Cowgirl Defense back up to par, you can forget it.  The Steelers
>can hang in there maybe until halftime, but if you're a betting man take
>the 'Pokes with the points.
>
>Robert Bonnette

Well, Genius, lets take your points one-by-one.
1.  Neil O'Donnell is suspect.
Exactly what do you mean by "suspect"?  If you mean he wilts in playoff games, you're wrong.  He played a strong (but not spectacular) game last week, and had over 300 yards passing in the AFC Championship game last season.  Neil also has the lowest interception rating EVER in the NFL.  He has also shown that he can lead the Steelers back from behind in the
fourth quarter.

2.  The Steelers wide-recievers are above-average.
Well, I agree with you there.  The difference is, the Steelers have 5 above-average recievers (Thigpen, Mills, Hastings, Stewart, and Charles Johnson before he got hurt)  Hate to tell you this, but Deion can't cover all of them at once.  In fact, I think that's what makes the Steeler's passing game so effective.  If a team double-teams one reciever, the other ones will get open, and Neil can find them and get the ball to them.

3.  The Steelers running game is above-average.
Nuff said there.

In fact, I would prefer to have the Steeler's offense over Dallas's for one simple reason:  diversity.  If Micheal Irvin or Emmitt Smith go down, the Comboys are in trouble.  The same can't be said for the Steelers.  The Steelers don't depend on 1 or 2 people to carry their offense.  If Pegram goes down, Bam Morris can step in.  If one of the recievers go down, there is still 4 other good ones to go with.  Of cource, in Neil goes down, the Steelers would be in trouble, but that can be said about 80% of the teams in the league.  With all this being said, I know that this Superbowl is going to be one of the best ever.  It's going to be a hard-hitting game.  But, I've got to say, GO STEELERS!

Big Al

lej@paradyne.com (Leo James) wrote:
>I know, I know, it sounds totally ludicrous to many of you
>NFC fans.  As an NFC fan myself, it's hard for me to bring
>myself to say it;  but I think the Steelers have a good op-
>portunity to win this Super Bowl.
>
>Keep in mind, one team managed to beat these Cowboys twice
>this season.
>
>The Washington Redskins.
>
>They did it, IMO, by pitting their undersized D-line, which
>was a detriment on most Sundays, against the mammoth O-line
>of the Cowboys.  They shot the gaps.  They confused the run
>blocking.  They got to Aikman.  And, when they got the lead,
>they had a back like Terry Allen who could run the ball.
>
>What if the Steelers play it the same way?
>
>They can't line up and plan mano-a-mano with the Dallas Cow-
>boys and I think they know that.  But, what if Cowher comes
>up with a way to disrupt the Dallas offense?  What if Lloyd
>and Greene get to Aikman and Smith early?  What if they man-
>age to incorporate Morris into the attack such that they're
>in this ballgame late in the 3rd period?   If this is still
>a ballgame into the 4th quarter, could Kordell Stewart be a
>factor?
>
>Ask the '94 University of Michigan Wolverines.
>
>"Anything can happen."
>
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There's alot of "what ifs" in that! By the fourth quarter this
game will be over!

                            Go Cowboys! RON

lej@paradyne.com (Leo James) wrote:

>I know, I know, it sounds totally ludicrous to many of you
>NFC fans.  As an NFC fan myself, it's hard for me to bring
>myself to say it;  but I think the Steelers have a good op-
>portunity to win this Super Bowl.

>Keep in mind, one team managed to beat these Cowboys twice
>this season.

>The Washington Redskins.

>They did it, IMO, by pitting their undersized D-line, which
>was a detriment on most Sundays, against the mammoth O-line
>of the Cowboys.  They shot the gaps.  They confused the run
>blocking.  They got to Aikman.  And, when they got the lead,
>they had a back like Terry Allen who could run the ball.

>What if the Steelers play it the same way?

>They can't line up and plan mano-a-mano with the Dallas Cow-
>boys and I think they know that.  But, what if Cowher comes
>up with a way to disrupt the Dallas offense?  What if Lloyd
>and Greene get to Aikman and Smith early?  What if they man-
>age to incorporate Morris into the attack such that they're
>in this ballgame late in the 3rd period?   If this is still
>a ballgame into the 4th quarter, could Kordell Stewart be a
>factor?

Your points are well taken, but there is a big difference between the
Redskins and Steelers, that being Pittsburgh's 3-4 defense plays right
into the Cowboys' strengths.  Pitting a linebacker, no matter how
awesome a linebacker he is, against a Cowboys offensive lineman is a
silly idea.  Throw Darryl Johnston into the mix and Troy Aikman isn't
going to be touched very often.  Another key feature of a
linebacker-driven offense is that they are extremely susceptible to
play action, which the Cowboys will given them over and over.

There is a similarity between the Skins and Steelers worth mentioning.
Neil O'Donnell is about as capable of beating the Cowboys as Gus
Frerotte or Heath Shuler.

This is the Super Bowl.  The Cowboys will come ready to play.  The
Steelers CAN'T win.

Someonw wrote:

>This is the Super Bowl.  The Cowboys will come ready to play.  The
>Steelers CAN'T win

Hell, the Steelers DIDN'T win against the Colts. They were outplayed all
day by a team that was missing its starting backfield combination, and
they only won because of a bogus touchdown.

No one seriously thinks the Steelers can win the SB, do they?

In article <4dir92$p60@saturn.ball.com>, Mac  <smccarty@ball.com> wrote:
>Hell, the Steelers DIDN'T win against the Colts. They were outplayed all
>day by a team that was missing its starting backfield combination, and
>they only won because of a bogus touchdown.

	Which was offset by an interference non-call earlier, which you
would have seen if you had watched the game.

>No one seriously thinks the Steelers can win the SB, do they?

	Tell me Mac, did you seriously think the Redskins would sweep the
Cowboys this year?

zephyn@io.com				Keith _persona_non_baka_ Peyton

         AGREED !!!!

         GO PITTSBURGH!!!!

         Isabirye

History???   Yeah, like Steel is 2-0 against cow in Superbowls

In article <4dm2td$5e@news.microsoft.com>, danwel@microsoft.com (Daniel Welch) writes:
> In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu says...
>>On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
>>There's no what-ifs about it:
>>
>>        Bill Cowher is good.
>>        Barry Switzer is a putz.
>
> Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?
> And had to go to the last play to eliminate the #5 seed *this* season -- and
> then only did it because one player wasn't smart enough to close his arms
> around the ball?!?

 San Diego was the #2 seed last year, moron.  Get your facts
straight before you make an @ss of yourself on the net.
 Yeah, that boy sure was *DUMB* not to catch the ball on the
Hail Mary.  I guess the Indy coaches never taught those kids
that they needed to actually catch the ball when going for
the TD on that play.  It had nothing to do with the tangled
mess of bodies crashing down at the time, though.  ;)

-Dan

P.S. If you need to complete a Hail Mary to win a game, you DESERVE
     to lose if it falls to the ground...SORRY!

In article <4dlu40$f7d@news1.wolfe.net>, mike smith <pticom@wolfenet.com> wrote:

> the cowgirls and neon queer deon will be destroyed


   Yeah...just like you were going to destroy us two years ago.  You all
talked a lot of S#%@ then, but I think we proved that you were boys among
men, and nothing has changed since then.  In fact, you lost your best
player in Woodson, and even when he was in we whipped you boys.
Ultimately, we'll see what happens, but don't expect to intimidate
us...look what happened to the packers.  Cheers! :-)

In article <4djkif$m7t@news.microsoft.com>, jeffy@microsoft.com says...
>
>If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
>they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You mean like Green Bay did?
Dallas' O line must open bigger holes when it's worn down physically.

>believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
>Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.
>

jeffy@microsoft.com (Jeff Yuhas) wrote:

>If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
>they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
>believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
>Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.
>

The Steelers wear down Dallas???? I'm sorry but the past few years and
last week especially show that Dallas wears down the other guy more
often than not. Wear down Dallas? hahahahaha, only if the Cowboys have
a rash of injuries.


Caan@ix.netcom.com
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Taglines? I don't need no STEENKING taglines....

Daniel Welch (danwel@microsoft.com) wrote:
: In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu says...
: >On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
: >There's no what-ifs about it:
: >
: >        Bill Cowher is good.
: >        Barry Switzer is a putz.

: Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?
: And had to go to the last play to eliminate the #5 seed *this* season -- and
: then only did it because one player wasn't smart enough to close his arms
: around the ball?!?

: Daniel Welch
: --
: I don't mind being regarded as perverted or unnatural, but I'd *die* if
: people thought I was a Democrat.


Ahhh, yet another post from the ignorant. San Diego was the #2 seed last
year.  It's one thing to post biased opinions, which most people do, but
if you're going to past facts, make sure they're right.


--
Jeffrey S. Han
Biochemistry/Information Systems '96
jshan@mail.sas.upenn.edu

Cowher is a great coach, and Barry probably still belongs at OU.  But
Emmitt, Troy, Michael, Charles, Leon, the Darrins, Deion and the
Offensive Line make up for any lack of coaching.  Don't expect a close
one.  Pitt stays close for 2 1/2 quarters.
Final Score:  Dallas 34
              Pittsburgh 17

SB MVP:  Emmitt Smith, with all credit going to Erik Williams and Mark
Tuinei for stopping/containging/controlling Lloyd and Greene.

P.S.  Charles Haley sacks Neil "Grizzley Adams" O'donnell early and
often.  Nobody wants this win more than Charles.  this will be ring #5
for him.....no one else in the history of the SuperBowl has 5 rings.

In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu says...
>On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
>There's no what-ifs about it:
>
>        Bill Cowher is good.
>        Barry Switzer is a putz.

Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?
And had to go to the last play to eliminate the #5 seed *this* season -- and
then only did it because one player wasn't smart enough to close his arms
around the ball?!?

Daniel Welch
--
I don't mind being regarded as perverted or unnatural, but I'd *die* if
people thought I was a Democrat.

the cowgirls and neon queer deon will be destroyed

Eddie Merrifield <Merrifield_Edward@HP-Corvallis.om.hp.com> wrote:
>Cowher is a great coach, and Barry probably still belongs at OU.  But
>Emmitt, Troy, Michael, Charles, Leon, the Darrins, Deion and the
>Offensive Line make up for any lack of coaching.  Don't expect a close
>one.  Pitt stays close for 2 1/2 quarters.
>Final Score:  Dallas 34
>              Pittsburgh 17
>
>SB MVP:  Emmitt Smith, with all credit going to Erik Williams and Mark
>Tuinei for stopping/containging/controlling Lloyd and Greene.
>
>P.S.  Charles Haley sacks Neil "Grizzley Adams" O'donnell early and
>often.  Nobody wants this win more than Charles.  this will be ring #5
>for him.....no one else in the history of the SuperBowl has 5 rings.
>
>

If it is close for 2 1/2 quarters, the Cowboys should pull away from them.

I believe Pittsburgh CAN win, but they will have to force turnovers early
and jump off to a big lead to do it.  That will neutralize the Cowboys'
running game, forcing them to play catchup with Irvin and K. Williams.
Pitt could be able to hold them off in a scenario like that.

If the Cowboys are allowed to play their game (ball control with E. Smith,
mix in some slants to Novacek, a few deep routes to Irvin), no one can stop
them except Washington. :-)

Mark Ponton

Eddie Merrifield wrote:
> 
> Cowher is a great coach, and Barry probably still belongs at OU.  But
> Emmitt, Troy, Michael, Charles, Leon, the Darrins, Deion and the
> Offensive Line make up for any lack of coaching.  Don't expect a close
> one.  Pitt stays close for 2 1/2 quarters.
> Final Score:  Dallas 34
>               Pittsburgh 17

The key early on will be if Pittsburgh high risk pass D can hold up against
Troy and Michael.  If they avoid the rush (which I believe they will) they 
should be able to score quickly.  If the rush gets to Troy and an interception
leads to an early Steelers score, it might be a close game.  

I seriously doubt the Pittsburgh offense can put up more than 24 points in
the game and they may need 2 turnovers to get that.  Dallas, barring stupid
turnovers, aka the San Fran game, can easily score 35 against the Pitt D.
The Steeler offense is going to have to be FAR more consistent than they were
against the Colts or they may not see the end-zone until it is too late.

Dallas seems to be on a mission, despite Barry.  Pitt has played tough and
gut spirit has led them this far but can it overcome Dallas.  Probably not!

Dallas 17-3 at half, Final 38-17.

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In <4djjov$n6i@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Big Al
<ajgst9@unixs1.cis.pitt.edu> writes:
>
>The Genius <rbonne1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:
>>I have to disagree.  To me, the biggest problem will be when the
Steeler
>>offense gets on the field.  O'Donnell, to me, is suspect.  The
recievers
>>are above average.  There isn't one of them that Deion can't shut
down.
>>Their passing game is much improved, from downright awful to slightly

>>above average.  Their running game has gone from great to also
slightly
>>above average.  I'll put it this way:  you can stop either one
without
>>getting killed by the other.  As we all know, this isn't the case
with
>>the Cowgirls.  One way or another, you're getting scored on.  And now

>>with the Cowgirl Defense back up to par, you can forget it.  The
Steelers
>>can hang in there maybe until halftime, but if you're a betting man
take
>>the 'Pokes with the points.
>>
>>Robert Bonnette
>
>Well, Genius, lets take your points one-by-one.
>1.  Neil O'Donnell is suspect.
>Exactly what do you mean by "suspect"?  If you mean he wilts in
playoff games, you're wrong.  He played a strong (but not spectacula>r) game last week, and had over 300 yards passing in the AFC
Championship game last season.  Neil also has the lowest interception
r>ating EVER in the NFL.  He has also shown that he can lead the
Steelers back from behind in the
>fourth quarter.
>
>2.  The Steelers wide-recievers are above-average.
>Well, I agree with you there.  The difference is, the Steelers have 5
above-average recievers (Thigpen, Mills, Hastings, Stewart, an>d Charles Johnson before he got hurt)  Hate to tell you this, but
Deion can't cover all of them at once.  In fact, I think that's wh>at makes the Steeler's passing game so effective.  If a team
double-teams one reciever, the other ones will get open, and Neil can
f>ind them and get the ball to them.
>
>3.  The Steelers running game is above-average.
>Nuff said there.
>
>In fact, I would prefer to have the Steeler's offense over Dallas's
for one simple reason:  diversity.  If Micheal Irvin or Emmitt S>mith go down, the Comboys are in trouble.  The same can't be said for
the Steelers.  The Steelers don't depend on 1 or 2 people to c>arry their offense.  If Pegram goes down, Bam Morris can step in.  If
one of the recievers go down, there is still 4 other good ones> to go with.  Of cource, in Neil goes down, the Steelers would be in
trouble, but that can be said about 80% of the teams in the lea>gue.  With all this being said, I know that this Superbowl is going to
be one of the best ever.  It's going to be a hard-hitting gam>e.  But, I've got to say, GO STEELERS!
>
>Big Al
>


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yeah, right.  ColtsÚllas.  I think not.  Colts<Dallas.  I think so.
Colts+Steelers<Dallas on Super Bowl Sunday.  I'm afraid so.
Men(Cowboys)against boys (Steelers) on Super Bowl Sunday.  History says
it will be so.

danwel@microsoft.com (Daniel Welch) wrote:
>In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu says...
>>On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
>>There's no what-ifs about it:
>>
>>        Bill Cowher is good.
>>        Barry Switzer is a putz.
>
>Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?
>And had to go to the last play to eliminate the #5 seed *this* season -- and
>then only did it because one player wasn't smart enough to close his arms
>around the ball?!?
>
>Daniel Welch
>--
>I don't mind being regarded as perverted or unnatural, but I'd *die* if
>people thought I was a Democrat.
>
Danny, Danny, Danny..... Was it the skins who shamed Dallas 2 times?
P.S. Indianapolis....#5....Beat the team with the best record in their house.

In article <4dm2td$5e@news.microsoft.com>,
Daniel Welch <danwel@microsoft.com> wrote:
>Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?

Er, no, the New England Patriots were eliminated by the Cleveland Browns
last season and didn't get a chance to face the Steelers.

- Stephen

In article <4dmm1p$2kn@netnews.upenn.edu>, jshan@mail2.sas.upenn.edu (Jeffrey Han) writes:
|> Daniel Welch (danwel@microsoft.com) wrote:
|> : In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu says...
|> : >On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
|> : >There's no what-ifs about it:
|> : >
|> : >        Bill Cowher is good.
|> : >        Barry Switzer is a putz.
|>
|> : Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?
|> : And had to go to the last play to eliminate the #5 seed *this* season -- and
|> : then only did it because one player wasn't smart enough to close his arms
|> : around the ball?!?
|>
|> : Daniel Welch
|> : --
|> : I don't mind being regarded as perverted or unnatural, but I'd *die* if
|> : people thought I was a Democrat.
|>

	Speaking as a Democrat, I think I would also die;-)

|>
|> Ahhh, yet another post from the ignorant. San Diego was the #2 seed last
|> year.  It's one thing to post biased opinions, which most people do, but
|> if you're going to past facts, make sure they're right.
|>
|>
|> --
|> Jeffrey S. Han
|> Biochemistry/Information Systems '96
|> jshan@mail.sas.upenn.edu

	The one telling fact I see about this game is during the regular season
	these two teams have met four common opponents.  Of those four the Steelers
	are two and two, the Cowboys are 4 and 0.  Sure the Steelers could win
	this game but it wouldn't seem very likely.  It would be nice to see them
	play at least as well as Green Bay and make it at least interesting into
	the fourth quarter.


	Another interesting note:  The NFC has won the last eleven super bowls.
	The NFC East has won seven of those.  I am not sure what they are doing
        but it is must be right.

dhayden@cps.udayton.edu (Douglas Hayden) writes:

>On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
>: There's alot of "what ifs" in that! By the fourth quarter this
>: game will be over!

>There's no what-ifs about it:

>	Bill Cowher is good.
>	Barry Switzer is a putz.

>That alone should guarantee the Steelers a victory.

Yep, like it guaranteed a victory for 12 other NFL teams this year.
When are you going to get this "coaching genius" crap out of your
system?  There are NO COACHING GENIUSES.  The Cowboy staff knows
just as much about football as your staff.  That is why they are
12-4, and you're not.

go Steelers!!!!!!

Mark Ponton <jmponton@dal.mobil.com> wrote:

>Eddie Merrifield <Merrifield_Edward@HP-Corvallis.om.hp.com> wrote:
>>Cowher is a great coach, and Barry probably still belongs at OU.  But
>>Emmitt, Troy, Michael, Charles, Leon, the Darrins, Deion and the
>>Offensive Line make up for any lack of coaching.  Don't expect a close
>>one.  Pitt stays close for 2 1/2 quarters.
>>Final Score:  Dallas 34
>>              Pittsburgh 17
>>
>>SB MVP:  Emmitt Smith, with all credit going to Erik Williams and Mark
>>Tuinei for stopping/containging/controlling Lloyd and Greene.
>>
>>P.S.  Charles Haley sacks Neil "Grizzley Adams" O'donnell early and
>>often.  Nobody wants this win more than Charles.  this will be ring #5
>>for him.....no one else in the history of the SuperBowl has 5 rings.
>>
>>

Isn't there a receiver who got two rings with Green Bay and two with
Miami and one from another team? Was it Paul Warfield? Or someone like
that. This would have been in the first 15 years of the Superbowl.


Regards,

L. J. Silver

Daniel Welch (danwel@microsoft.com) wrote:
: In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu says...
: >On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
: >There's no what-ifs about it:
: >
: >        Bill Cowher is good.
: >        Barry Switzer is a putz.

: Hmmm, this is why Cowher's team was eliminated last season by the #5 seed?
: And had to go to the last play to eliminate the #5 seed *this* season -- and
: then only did it because one player wasn't smart enough to close his arms
: around the ball?!?

Wrong.  The possible interception by the Colts was broken up by the passer
it was intended for (Ernie Mills).  He reached out and dislodged the ball...

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> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,alt.sports.football.pro.dallas-cowboys,alt.sports.football.pro.pitt-steelers,alt.sports.football.pro.wash-redskins
> Subject: Re: The Steelers CAN Win This Football Game!
> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 01:36:45 GMT
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> jeffy@microsoft.com (Jeff Yuhas) wrote:
>
> >If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
> >they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
> >believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
> >Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.
>
> If not the Buffalo Bills, perhaps the Denver Broncos? Get off the
> crack, Pittsburgh cannot physicall wear down Dallas. You need a
> reality check jeffy! I hate Dallas.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> L. J. Silver
>
 Heres a reality check  Pittsburgh 2-0 in the Superbowl against Dallas
 NUff saiD !

Daniel Vietor <devo@cell.atms.purdue.edu> wrote:

>Eddie Merrifield wrote:
>>
>> Cowher is a great coach, and Barry probably still belongs at OU.  But
>> Emmitt, Troy, Michael, Charles, Leon, the Darrins, Deion and the
>> Offensive Line make up for any lack of coaching.  Don't expect a close
>> one.  Pitt stays close for 2 1/2 quarters.
>> Final Score:  Dallas 34
>>               Pittsburgh 17

>The key early on will be if Pittsburgh high risk pass D can hold up against
>Troy and Michael.  If they avoid the rush (which I believe they will) they
>should be able to score quickly.  If the rush gets to Troy and an interception
>leads to an early Steelers score, it might be a close game.

>I seriously doubt the Pittsburgh offense can put up more than 24 points in
>the game and they may need 2 turnovers to get that.  Dallas, barring stupid
>turnovers, aka the San Fran game, can easily score 35 against the Pitt D.
>The Steeler offense is going to have to be FAR more consistent than they were
>against the Colts or they may not see the end-zone until it is too late.

>Dallas seems to be on a mission, despite Barry.  Pitt has played tough and
>gut spirit has led them this far but can it overcome Dallas.  Probably not!

>Dallas 17-3 at half, Final 38-17.

While most fans outside Dallas don't think much of Barry S, the
players seem to think the world of him and want this SB win very badly
to get the ghost of Johnson out of the lockerroom. That is their
mission.  I hate Dallas.

Regards,

L. J. Silver

>Isn't there a receiver who got two rings with Green Bay and two with
>Miami and one from another team? Was it Paul Warfield? Or someone like
>that. This would have been in the first 15 years of the Superbowl.
>Regards,
>L. J. Silver
>

No player has 5 Super Bowl titles. You may be thinking of tight end Marv Fleming,
who had at least one title with Green Bay and at least one with Miami, but not 4.
Warfield played for the Browns for a long time before going to Miami and "only" has
2 Super Bowl rings.

One of the story lines in the offseason last year was that Jesse Sapolu of the 49ers
had just won his fourth ring last year, and he and Haley would vie for their fifth
this season. That was before Charles retired and unretired a few times.

jeffy@microsoft.com (Jeff Yuhas) wrote:

>If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
>they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
>believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
>Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.

If not the Buffalo Bills, perhaps the Denver Broncos? Get off the
crack, Pittsburgh cannot physicall wear down Dallas. You need a
reality check jeffy! I hate Dallas.




Regards,

L. J. Silver

The Genius <rbonne1@gl.umbc.edu> wrote:

>I have to disagree.  To me, the biggest problem will be when the Steeler
>offense gets on the field.  O'Donnell, to me, is suspect.  The recievers
>are above average.  There isn't one of them that Deion can't shut down.

Wow I think this might be a news break.....Overpaid CB can cover five
reciever's a one time.... well shuck's pardner that why they pay him
$5 mil a year.

>Their passing game is much improved, from downright awful to slightly
>above average.  Their running game has gone from great to also slightly
>above average.  I'll put it this way:  you can stop either one without
>getting killed by the other.  As we all know, this isn't the case with
>the Cowgirls.  One way or another, you're getting scored on.  And now
>with the Cowgirl Defense back up to par, you can forget it.  The Steelers
>can hang in there maybe until halftime, but if you're a betting man take
>the 'Pokes with the points.

>Robert Bonnette

Blind devotion, without truth or actual assessment.  This game will be
closer than most think and it will not be this 2nd half cakewalk or
4th quarter blow out.  What just about the whole Cowgirl faithful seem
not to acknowledge or realise, Pittsburgh is a very deep team
personnel wise.  We rotate the DL and LB's.  We rotate OL, RB and
Receiver's.  Who is going to be wore down and who will be fresh?

Frankly, this will be a SB game worth watching for once, that probably
will come down to who has the ball last or maybe overtime.  There is
going to be some leather popping hits on both sides of the ball, by
both teams.  TO's and penalties will be a critical factor for both
sides.  Injuries will also be critical.  Steeler's can afford a
couple, is Dallas that deep?

I refuse to engage in the picking of one side or the other.  Because
I'm a Steeler fan, of course they will win in my mind.  It will be a
close game and an entertaining game.  Good luck to you Cowgirl fans's.

Let the rollercoaster ride begin!!

Chris Reeder

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> Alan Claffey <usd60956@cris.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> >> jeffy@microsoft.com (Jeff Yuhas) wrote:
> >>
> >> >If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
> >> >they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
> >> >believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
> >> >Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.
> >>
> >> If not the Buffalo Bills, perhaps the Denver Broncos? Get off the
> >> crack, Pittsburgh cannot physicall wear down Dallas. You need a
> >> reality check jeffy! I hate Dallas.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> L. J. Silver
> >>
> > Heres a reality check  Pittsburgh 2-0 in the Superbowl against Dallas
> > NUff saiD !
>
> That was then...this is now. I still hate Dallas but they will win.
> Regards,
>
> L. J. Silver
>
Yeah, you're right this is now and the Cowboys are going into this thing with
an over-confidence that they will win because they are the "COWBOYS, AMERICA'S
TEAM" that and 75 cents will get you a cup of coffee !  I think Dallas and JJ
are going to be in for a shock when they wake-up from the dream their in!
Dallas won their share, time for a change.  The numbers (not the stats) point
to an AFC team winning it this time.  Strange but true.

Alan Claffey <usd60956@cris.com> wrote:



>> jeffy@microsoft.com (Jeff Yuhas) wrote:
>>
>> >If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
>> >they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
>> >believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
>> >Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.
>>
>> If not the Buffalo Bills, perhaps the Denver Broncos? Get off the
>> crack, Pittsburgh cannot physicall wear down Dallas. You need a
>> reality check jeffy! I hate Dallas.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> L. J. Silver
>>
> Heres a reality check  Pittsburgh 2-0 in the Superbowl against Dallas
> NUff saiD !

That was then...this is now. I still hate Dallas but they will win.
Regards,

L. J. Silver

r.estrada@mail.utexas.edu (ROL) wrote:
>    Yeah...just like you were going to destroy us two years ago.  You all
> talked a lot of S#%@ then, but I think we proved that you were boys among
> men, and nothing has changed since then.

That was then, this is now.. A lot of things have changed since then.  That
was the 1st game of that season, and Pittsburgh did not have a competitive
passing game.  Remember, we relied on the running game only.  Now we have
a mixed but balanced offense.  Yes, we do lack a feature running back (Foster)
but Morris and Pegram are excellent backs who get the job done.  Then,
we didn't have Kordell, nor did Thigpen, Mills, or Stone know how to catch.  Now, Stone
is gone, and Thigpen and Mills have emerged as reliable and dangerous
receivers.  Kordell has excellent hands and is a danger to any defense
whenever he is in the game.


  In fact, you lost your best
> player in Woodson, and even when he was in we whipped you boys.

With Woodson's injury, Pittsburgh's defense learned to play aggressively
without him...and if you look and the stats, they seem to have done a
great job.  Throw Woodson into the Superbowl, and you will be eating your
words.

> Ultimately, we'll see what happens, but don't expect to intimidate
> us...look what happened to the packers.  Cheers! :-)

Oh yeah, you had that game won in the first quarter.  Cheap calls and no-
calls won you that game, but that's over, we won't talk about that anymore.

For your team's sake, don't let Aikman get hit by Lloyd, Greene, Seals, Buckner,
Brown, etc...  I don't think his ankles can hold up too much longer.

Look at the scoreboard at the end of the game...  Pittsburgh 27
                                                      Dallas 24

Chris

In article <3102de96.2342019@news2.cais.com>
*lots of stuff deleted*

Can the Steelers beat the Cowboys?

The prevailing sentiment is - no, because the Cowboys have the better
talent on both sides of the ball.

However, this of all news groups should know that while the more talented
team will win most of the time, it is not a sure thing.  Whitness our
beloved Redskins who beat the Cowpukes twice this year.  Is their anyone
in the world who would say the Redskins have better talent?   Of course not!
In fact, its fair to say that the Cowboys have players that are far more than
twice as talented as the Redskin's players at every single position.  It's
like comparing a highschool football team to a pro team (remember, I AM a
huge Skins fan, but lets get real).

So how can the Steelers beat the Cowboys?  Study the Redskins game plans
against the Cowboys, and take advantage of their inevitable  overconfidence.
Frustrate them by taunting, cheap shotting them, and injuring as many players
as possible.  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, lets end some careers out there!
(bye, bye to the dancing fools like D.S. and M.I.)

In article <4dk0ih$gvp@news.cps.udayton.edu>, dhayden@cps.udayton.edu (Douglas Hayden) writes:
|> On Stardate 17 Jan 1996 03:46:15 GMT, Ron Hummel stated:
|> : There's alot of "what ifs" in that! By the fourth quarter this
|> : game will be over!
|>
|> There's no what-ifs about it:
|>
|> 	Bill Cowher is good.
|> 	Barry Switzer is a putz.
|>
|> That alone should guarantee the Steelers a victory.
|>
|> [Wait a sec, I'm rooting for the Steelers!?  WHAT AM I DOING, MAN!?]

Maybe you're finally starting to see the light?  :-)

Dale
(FWIW, all Pittsburgh fans are hoping the Browns stay where they are.  Just
send Modell to Baltimore)

AC <usd60956@cris.com> wrote:

>
>In Article<4dsd42$n2v@zippy.cais.net>, <Silver@lifeisabreezeinthefloridakeys.net> write:
<Deleted headers>
>> Alan Claffey <usd60956@cris.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >> jeffy@microsoft.com (Jeff Yuhas) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >If the Steelers can keep it close early (say the first half), I think
>> >> >they can wear the Cowboys down physically and then they will start
>> >> >believing that the game is winnable.  Remember the Steelers of '72 ?
>> >> >Never say never.  Also, we are not talking the Buffalo Bills here.
>> >>
>> >> If not the Buffalo Bills, perhaps the Denver Broncos? Get off the
>> >> crack, Pittsburgh cannot physicall wear down Dallas. You need a
>> >> reality check jeffy! I hate Dallas.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> L. J. Silver
>> >>
>> > Heres a reality check  Pittsburgh 2-0 in the Superbowl against Dallas
>> > NUff saiD !
>>
>> That was then...this is now. I still hate Dallas but they will win.
>> Regards,
>>
>> L. J. Silver
>>
>Yeah, you're right this is now and the Cowboys are going into this thing with
>an over-confidence that they will win because they are the "COWBOYS, AMERICA'S
>TEAM" that and 75 cents will get you a cup of coffee !  I think Dallas and JJ
>are going to be in for a shock when they wake-up from the dream their in!
>Dallas won their share, time for a change.  The numbers (not the stats) point
>to an AFC team winning it this time.  Strange but true.
>

You have nice sentiments but the fact is that the cowboys, whom I
hate, are far superior to the Steelers in almost every category and
position. What number are you talking about pointing to a Steeler win,
that he AFC has been taken to the cleaners in 11 of the last 13 SB's.
With the exception of one Bear and  four 49'er victories, the NFC East
has won them all, usually by halftime. I think the only real question
here is as Genius stated: How much the cowboys will win by?

BTW, I'm a  Redshin Fan.

Regards,

L. J. Silver

In article <177167DFCS86.JCHICK@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>, JCHICK@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU says...
>So how can the Steelers beat the Cowboys?  Study the Redskins game plans
>against the Cowboys, and take advantage of their inevitable  overconfidence.
>Frustrate them by taunting, cheap shotting them, and injuring as many players
>as possible.  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, lets end some careers out there!
>(bye, bye to the dancing fools like D.S. and M.I.)

You are sick.  No, not sick, disgusting.  Go back to shaking your snake and
leave the net to people who have at least a semblance of decency.

Daniel Welch
--
Modern liberalism suffers unresolved contradictions.  It exalts individualism
and freedom, and, on its radical wing, condemns social orders as oppressive.
On the other hand, it expects government to provide materially for all, a
feat manageable only by a expansion of authority and a swollen bureaucracy.
        -- Camille Paglia, "Sexual Personae"

John Chick (JCHICK@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU) wrote:
: In article <3102de96.2342019@news2.cais.com>
: *lots of stuff deleted*
:
: Frustrate them by taunting, cheap shotting them, and injuring as many players
: as possible.  PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, lets end some careers out there!
: (bye, bye to the dancing fools like D.S. and M.I.)

	I wouldn't wish a career-ending injury upon anyone who hadn't
given one out the way you sugest, no matter how cocky or irritating they
were.  are you really suggesting that winning a game is worth deliberately
injuring people over?  Football is a competition; if dallas competes well
they deserve the victory despite their attitude.

	I hope the steelers win.  I hope it's a clean, competitive, well
officiated game and that everyone walks away as healthy as they came
into it.

Go Skins...
--
Steve LePera		/\v/\			Reacting Flow Lab
Graduate Student	    /\v/\		Randolph Hall
Mechanical Engineering				Virginia Tech
					leperas@stnick.me.vt.edu
Triumph Daytona 1971, Yamaha Seca 750, 1981  VPI #351  NSS#40805

"Christopher J. Carlino" <ccarlino@iamerica.net> wrote:
>Oh yeah, you had that game won in the first quarter.  Cheap calls and no-
>calls won you that game,



Let's not even start on cheap calls "Mr. out of bounds in the end zone".

Go Cowboys!!!
Monte

Alan Claffey <usd60956@cris.com> wrote:
> Heres a reality check  Pittsburgh 2-0 in the Superbowl against Dallas
> NUff saiD !

Here's a reality check:  that was TWO DECADES AGO.  Those teams and these
teams have nothing in common besides the names.

Daniel Welch
--
I don't mind being regarded as perverted or unnatural, but I'd *die* if
people thought I was a Democrat.
        -- Florence King, on giving up Lesbianism

zephyn@io.com (Keith E Peyton) wrote:

>In article <4dir92$p60@saturn.ball.com>, Mac  <smccarty@ball.com> wrote:
>>Hell, the Steelers DIDN'T win against the Colts. They were outplayed all
>>day by a team that was missing its starting backfield combination, and
>>they only won because of a bogus touchdown.


>>No one seriously thinks the Steelers can win the SB, do they?

Wah wha wha........ Sounds like someone is jealous... Too bad!!!! And
yea, the Steelers WILL win the Super Bowl....... See follow up on the
29th......

In article <4e3edm$7m4@news.microsoft.com>,
Daniel Welch <danwel@microsoft.com> wrote:
>Alan Claffey <usd60956@cris.com> wrote:
>> Heres a reality check  Pittsburgh 2-0 in the Superbowl against Dallas
>> NUff saiD !
>
>Here's a reality check:  that was TWO DECADES AGO.  Those teams and these
>teams have nothing in common besides the names.

	Hmmm. Deion Sanders bears a great resemblance to "Hollywood"
Henderson in attitude...

zephyn@io.com			Keith _Jerry_Jones..._He_thinks_he's_
				_Indiana_Jones,_but_he_reminds_me_more_
				_of_Spike_Jones_ Peyton

Whatever, the game is going to be over by halftime. Just like last year
when we smothered Pittsburgh 26-9 and the game really was not that close.
If it were not for some field goals where Dallas made mistakes during the
drive, the score might have been 42-9. Give it up. Judging by the way the
Steelers have played in the Indy game, the SB should be a breeze.

Go Boys

In article <4e303j$o6r@overload.lbl.gov>, Monte Whisenhunt <mkw@cse.lbl.gov> writes:
|> "Christopher J. Carlino" <ccarlino@iamerica.net> wrote:
|> >Oh yeah, you had that game won in the first quarter.  Cheap calls and no-
|> >calls won you that game,
|>
|>
|>
|> Let's not even start on cheap calls "Mr. out of bounds in the end zone".
|>
|> Go Cowboys!!!
|> Monte
|>
|>

And every time someone points this out...

He was also "Mr. no call on the pass interference on the goal line".

John

In article <4e648n$gh3@tilde.csc.ti.com>, fmwa@msg.ti.com says...
>
>Whatever, the game is going to be over by halftime. Just like last year
>when we smothered Pittsburgh 26-9 and the game really was not that close.
>If it were not for some field goals where Dallas made mistakes during the
>drive, the score might have been 42-9. Give it up. Judging by the way the
>Steelers have played in the Indy game, the SB should be a breeze.
>
>Go Boys
>

What a great way to predict game results.  Let me guess!  Right after
Dallas lost to Washington 24 to 17, and then lost to Philadelphia 20 to 17,
you went to Las Vegas and put your life's savings on Dallas to lose to
the Giants.  All because you judged that by the way Dallas had just played
their last two games, there was no way they could beat New York.  Gosh, and
you were so close.  Dallas only managed to beat New York by 21 to 20.  Well,
maybe there is something to your method.  So let's see, Dallas goes 1 and
2 over a three week period; their only win coming by one point.  I bet
your rushed back to Vegas and bet your dog's life savings that Dallas was
going to lose to Arizona in the next game.  So what happened?  Hmmm.  Dallas
won 37 to 13.  What a shame!  Another perfectly good scientific theory shot
to hell...

Kevin Clendenien
kclenden@iac.net