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In article <S1082650.127.312283CA@cedarville.edu>, S1082650@cedarville.edu (Brad Umland ) writes:
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|> In article <4fr054$3v9@murrow.corp.sgi.com> ronnie@winona.csd.sgi.com (Ronnie Townsend) writes:
|> >From: ronnie@winona.csd.sgi.com (Ronnie Townsend)
|> >Subject: Re: Favre vs Aikman in the playoffs
|> >Date: 13 Feb 1996 21:34:28 GMT
|>
|> Ronnie's proof that he is biased against Favre is as follows...
|>
|> >I feel compelled to jump in here.  For the 3,345,490,255th time. Doug Williams
|> >was nobody's "one game wonder."
|>
|> OK, so after refering to Favre as a "flash in the pan" candidate, you
|> immediately rise to the challenge of defending Williams.  If Williams wasn't
|> a "flash in the pan" in your opinion, then Favre sure as heck shouldn't be
|> one either.

First of all, you are attributing shit to me that I never said. I have *never*
referred to Favre as a flash in the pan or one year wonder. I have stated on
more than one occasion that I thought he was a great QB, probably the equal of
Aikman physically with only the mental part holding him back to this point in
his career.

|>
|> >In Doug Williams' career his passer rating increased every year he was in the
|> >league from the mid 60's as a rookie to the mid 80's in his 5th year.
|>
|> Favre was in the mid-80's in his first season as a starter.  Shoot, a rating
|> in the 60s is downright pathetic!

Back in the 70's it was about average. You seem to be unwilling to recognize the
evolution of the game of football. At the time of his retirement, Roger Staubach
was the highest rated passer of all time with a rating at about 83. Today that
would be "average." Yet Doug exceeded that rating in both of his last two years
in the league.

|>
|> >Doug played for the most neanderthal offensive coach in pro football
|> >history (with the possible exception of Chuck Knox) in John McKay. Mckay's
|> >offense was simple. Run on first down, run on second down, pass on third.
|> >Yet Doug Williams was able to rank in the top five QBs in the league in his
|> >last two years.
|>
|> Favre has ranked in the top three QBs in the league the past two seasons.
|> Again, Favre proves better, yet Ronnie looks to defend Doug from being a
|> "flash in the pan" before Favre.  And if McKay's offense was so stupid, then
|> why did Gibbs, a pretty great coach, keep him around?  And how did they win
|> as often as they did with such a pathetic offense?  They ran because they
|> had great runners, not because McKay was a neanderthal OC.

Huh? They had Ricky Bell, who *was* a one-year wonder ( a muscle illness claimed
his skills and later his life) for two years and I dare you to name another
running back who ran for 1000 yards while Doug was there. Hint: Wilder didn't
do it until Doug was gone and Bell only managed it once.

|>
|> >He also led his team to the NFC Championship game in only his second year
|> >as a starter. He led a team that had been 2-26 prior to his arrival to
|> >the playoffs and winning records 3 of his five years there.
|>
|> Favre took a 4-12 team to four consectutive winning seasons.  Again, why the
|> heck did you mention Favre as a "flash in the pan" candidate when you seem
|> to think Williams isn't?
|>
|> [more Williams stuff deleted]
|>
|> In one post, Ronnie jumps to the defense of Doug Williams, and says more to
|> William's credit than he has in Favre's favor in over 100 posts!
|>
You either have problems with article attribution or you're just brain dead. I'll
give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you the former.

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Ronnie T.
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