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Ronnie Townsend (ronnie@winona.csd.sgi.com) wrote:
: In article <4ftpgu$1bd@news02.comp.pge.com>, mfester@pge.com (Michael Fester) writes:

: |> :No Jerry Rice and no John Taylor might have something to do with that. As good
: |> : as Sharpe and Brooks are/were.. neither has RACked up the yards after the catch
: |> : Rice and Taylor have.
: |>
: |> But Brooks somehow managed. I mean, with HIM as the featured receiver, the
: |> Packers' out-averaged the Cowboys, with the supposedly more downfield
: |> attack.

: |> And what happens to Irvin? Does he, like, fall down, go BOOM, when someone
: |> touches him? Why doesn't IRVIN pick up more YACs?

: Simple, the Cowboy offense has three staple patterns for Irvin,  the stop/comeback
: the skinny post and the alley-oop. Of these, two put the receiver in a bad way
: with regard to RAC yardage.

I saw Brooks break off a LONG TD against Detroit on a comeback. Hmm.

Still, if those are the only patterns, it LOOKS like the WCO is a more
DOWNFIELD oriented pass offense, yes?

: |> (My, such a gentle, sensistive receiver. Perhaps he needs toughness lessons
: |> from R Brooks.)

: |> :|> Well, if the reason that Favre has been outaveraged/att was the WCO, then it
: |> :|> would appear that the Cowboys must've gone to the WCO last year, as Favre
: |> :|> outaveraged Aikman.
: |>
: |> :I think this one's a gimme.
: |>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

: |> Don't bet the rent money.

: |> : Lose one Sterling Sharpe and his average of less than
: |> : 12 yards per catch over the last two seasons and replace him with Robert Brooks
: |> : as the primary target and suddenly you have a much more downfield passing threat.
: |> : Sharpe's forte was the short catch in traffic. Brooks is much better at getting
: |> : open further downfield and Favre's confidence has allowed him to throw it.
: |> Brooks' avg/catch was LOWER (less than 11 yds/catch) than Sharpe's, until
: |> he started this year. Not much of a gimme.

: Why not? He was more of a downfield receiver from the word go but he doesn't get
: to call his own routes.

Hunh? Your statement was that the loss of Sharpe with his "less than 12/
catch" would obviously increase the yds/ of Favre. Now, you are questioning
whether Brooks could call his own routes.

Would it be your contention that Sharpe COULD call his own routes? You also
claim that Sharpe's forte was the "short catch in traffic". How, then, did
he average 15 and 16 yds/catch for 2 years?

: |> Still, Brooks averaged more this year than did Irvin; was the reason
: |> 1) Dallas went to a WCO, thus shortening up the routes
: |> 2) Irvin doesn't get free like Brooks does
: |> 3) Irvin can't break tackles, as you indicate above
: |>
: |> Pick one.

: Irvin can break tackles just fine, he simply is not as good at it as Robert
: Brooks apparently is. Would you likewise criticize Sharpe for his low ypc
: average since he apparently was even worse than Irvin in this regard? It also

Criticize? Hmm, I have been addressing your statements that the REASONS for
the differences in the QBs yds/att was due to any number of things. If you
think this makes Irvin look bad, then pick other possible explanations.

: bears noting that the difference between Irvin and Brooks was only .3 yards
: per attempt which is barely noticeable.  On the other hand Kevin Williams averaged
: a full yard and a half more than either of them so apparently *he* was better
: than them as a downfield threat.  Actually, under Zampese, the Cowboy passing
: game *has* shortened up a bit, especially when throwing to Emmitt and Moose out
: of the backfield. Emmitt's average per catch has dropped a full yard since
: Zampese came on board and he almost never gets to catch anything more than a
: flare or a two yard dump pass anymore.

So the question remains, WHY did Favre suddenly have a larger yds/att
than Aikman? It's been explained (thus far) that the WCO was a less down-
field oriented offense. When it is pointed out that the other WCO QBs had
BETTER yds/ than Aikman, well, it became "YAC" for Taylor and Rice. Pointed
out that Taylor and Rice had better averages under Montana than under Young,
but YOUNG had the better yds/, it becomes silent.

Moving to Favre, for 3 years Aikman has had a better yds/ than Favre. This
was explained due to the WCO, and the above "explanations". We now find
that Favre's avg was HIGHER than Aikman's this year. First this is explained
by "YAC", discussed above. NOW it is explained that he Dallas offense
has SHORTENED its passing game (which would make it also a LESS down
field offense.) However, this year saw Aikman's SECOND HIGHEST yds/att
of his career!

Hmm.

Mike