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L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
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From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. Far From Urban Gateways, Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile neighborhoods. Deep divisions remain elsewhere. By BETTINA BOXALL and RAY F. HERNDON TIMES STAFF WRITERS FAIRFIELD, Calif.-The fading of ethnic and racial lines that so rigidly defined much of America's past is most evident here, in the flatlands northeast of San Francisco Bay. In Solano County, a mix of fields, caramel hills and expanding small cities strung along Interstate 80, nearly 1 in 4 births over the past decade has been to parents of different races or ethnicities, according to an analysis of population data. Though the state's polyglot capital of immigration is Los Angeles, multicultural California may be getting its firmest foothold in places like this. A bit to the east of Fairfield, in the leafy neighborhoods of Sacramento County, more than 21 % of births have been to mixed parents. "It's everywhere," said Sacramento obstetrician Therese Rosellini. She had just delivered a little girl whose father is white and mother is a Filipina. In her Elk Grove neighborhood on the outskirts of Sacramento, Rosellini said, "every other house has an interracial couple. It's just accepted." Birth certificate data show the highest rates of interracial births in middle-class suburban and smaller metropolitan counties such as Sacramento, Alameda and Contra Costa in the north and Riverside and San Bernardino in the south. In the so-called ethnic melting pot, "a good deal of the 'melting' occurs in the suburbs, and among the most upwardly mobile members of the new minorities," said demographer William H. Frey of the University of Michigan's Population Research Center. Removed from urban immigrant gateways by distance and often a generation or two, they increase their "contact with other groups, begin to have more in common with them, socialize with them, date them and marry them," he said. Not all suburban counties, however, have high rates of mixed births. Some of the most affluent, such as Marin, Orange and Ventura, were below the state average, reflecting what some demographers call the essentially lower-middle-class nature of the trend. Ranking even lower was Los Angeles County, which-for all its diversity-recorded a mixed-birth proportion of only about 1 in 9. One only need look at the city of Los Angeles to understand why. Many of its neighborhoods are strikingly homogeneous, its immigrant populations large, relatively new and cohesive, its economic divisions deep. No Agreement on Patterns Experts differ on which pattern will prevail as California loses its white majority-the blending of Solano County or the relative separation of Los Angeles-or whether the two will continue to coexist. Among the findings of a Times analysis: * Statewide, more than 1 in 6 births in 1998 were to parents of mixed race or ethnicity, up from 1 in 7 in 1989-and the trend is accelerating. These figures count as mixed births children born to parents of different Asian nationalities-for instance, a newborn with a Korean father and a Vietnamese mother. *Babies of mixed race or ethnicity are now the third largest group of newborns, after whites and Latinos. * California's rate of mixed births is well above the national average. Although the state accounted for only 13% of newborns nationwide in 1998, it had 24% of all births to parents of mixed race or ethnicity. * The majority of mixed births in California involve Latinos, the state's largest minority group. * The statewide percentage of interracial births involving African Americans was more than three times the national rate. Melting Pot From 1989 to 1998, nearly one-sixth of all births statewide were to parents of different races or ethnicities. In Los Angeles County, the figure was one in nine, the second-lowest rate in California. Historically, California has hardly been a racial Shangri-La. Yet it has attracted non-European immigrants since its inception. The California Supreme Court struck down legal barriers to intermarriage in 1948, nearly two decades before the U.S. Supreme Court erased them nationally. The Bay Area was the birthplace of the blossoming multiracial movement, which rejects the narrow boundaries of racial categories and succeeded in persuading the federal government to allow residents for the first time this year to choose more than one ethnic category on U.S. Census forms. "In dismantling the `check-onebox-only' system, we've basically opened the door to the idea that race is not fixed, that we're not separate species-as some would like to think," said Bay Area resident Ramona E. Douglass, a member of the Commerce Secretary's Census 2000 Advisory Committee and past president of the Assn. of MultiEthnic Americans. Indeed, UC Santa Barbara assistant sociology professor Reginald Daniel argues that people's growing willingness to embrace a mixed identity is more significant than the increasing number of mixed births. "For a person to say `I'm going to be all of those' is a new paradigm," he said. It also is one with broad implications, potentially reshaping notions of race and altering the balance of political power. Johnna Moore is white, her husband Earnest Moore, African American. The Solano County couple have five children, with a sixth on the way. "They know they're both," said Johnna, a medical assistant. "They have both white and black dolls." Michelle Hall and Paul Richard, another biracial couple in this bedroom community, said they are trying to imbue their two daughters, 7-year-old Darian and 3-year-old Kolbie, with a mixed identity. In the years since Darian was born, Hall, an African American who is a train operator, and Richard, a white who works as a courier, said people have become less colorconscious. "Before it was, 'Oh, are they your kids?'" Richard said. "Now, it's `Your kids are pretty.' " The two could recall only one bad experience stemming from their girls' mixed race. Once at an amusement park, a boy told the oldest child she couldn't play with his group because she was "not one of them." Tellingly, Richard said, Darian didn't know what the boy was talking about. Northern California Noted for Tolerance Certainly the Hall-Richard family is not a rarity in Solano County, which has a population of about 400,000 that is about 56% white. Among counties that recorded enough births to provide sufficient data, Solano topped the state in the rate of mixed ethnic and racial births between 1989 and 1998. The ranking is attributed to everything from the presence of Travis Air Force Base-the military is one of the most integrated institutions in the nation-to affordable housing that attracts a racial crosssection. Also, the county's minority groups are of essentially the same size and are established enough to be relatively assimilated. "I live in a townhouse complex, and we have African Americans, Mexicans, Caucasians and Asians," said Sally Martinez, a fourth-generation Californian and Latina homemaker who was grocery shopping with a white friend. "The kids all play together. They're all mixed together." Northern California has a stronger tradition of racial tolerance, suggested Sonoma State University multicultural studies professor Larry Shinagawa, because many of its white settlers came from the Northeast. Southern California tended to draw from more Southern states, where the racial divisions were sharply drawn. Both interracial and inter-ethnic marriages are on the rise in California, Shinagawa said. Asians in particular are marrying members of other Asian subgroups, he added, because the historical hostilities between them are eroding and because the overall number of Asians in California has increased. Although social attitudes clearly influence intermarriage and mixed birthrates, they are very much affected by practical factors such as the size of immigrant populations and the length of time they have resided in the United States. The larger and more cohesive an ethnic group, experts said, the better it is at enforcing internal social mores that frown on marrying outside. "Just the presence of those big, strong communities tends to act as a retardant to intergroup romance," said UC Santa Barbara history professor Paul Spickard. Spickard said he has known Latino and Asian students who have chosen UC Santa Barbara over UC Berkeley or UCLA "in part so they can be free of surveillance" by members of their own ethnicity and thus socialize more freely. Moreover, many new immigrants are likely to arrive in the United States already married, as well as have language barriers that circumscribe their social circles. In 1998, for instance, 83% of the adult Mexican women who legally immigrated to Los Angeles County were married. The difference between intermarriage rates for first-generation immigrants and their children was noted in a recent study by Sonya Tafoya, a research associate at the Public Policy Institute of California. Tafoya found that multiracial and multiethnic births to nativeborn women had risen markedly since 1982-from about 14% to 21% in 1997-while the rate for foreign-born mothers had remained fairly stable at about 7%. That generational change is reflected in the Thao family. Chia, Lo and Kaye Thao are teenage sisters who live in Solano County's Suisun City. The three are the oldest of 11 children born in this country to an immigrant Hmong couple. They know their mother and father would like them to marry within Hmong, or at least Asian, circles. Chia, 18, seems likely to do that, though she has dated whites. Her sisters aren't so sure. "Whoever I fall for, that's who I'm going to be with. You can't control it," Kaye, 19, said with a smile. It's not simply the march of generations that erodes the boundaries of romance. Christina Sanchez's family has lived in the United States for more than a century, yet it has remained solidly Latino. When the Fairfield bakery worker dated non-Latinos, relatives' eyebrows shot up. "But I never paid attention," said Sanchez, 22. Why? "Because," she said, "it's 2000. " Some figures from a chart in this piece: Parental Combinations in Southern California over the past ten years: White Mother/Mexican Father: 119,001 children Mexican Mother/White Father: 111,484 children White Mother/Black Father: 27,654 children Asian Mother/White Father: 28,139 children Black Mother/White Father: 8,308
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Bruce Chambers"
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:00
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: From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times.
:
: Far From Urban Gateways,
: Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs
: Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile
: neighborhoods. Deep
: divisions remain elsewhere.
:
: By BETTINA BOXALL
: and RAY F.
: HERNDON
: TIMES STAFF WRITERS
:
: FAIRFIELD, Calif.-The fading of ethnic and racial lines that so rigidly
: defined much of America's past is most evident here, in the flatlands
: northeast of San Francisco Bay.
: In Solano County, a mix of fields, caramel hills and expanding small
cities
: strung along Interstate 80, nearly 1 in 4 births over the past decade has
: been to parents of different races or ethnicities, according to
: an analysis of population data.
: Though the state's polyglot capital of immigration is Los Angeles,
: multicultural California may be getting its firmest foothold in places
like
: this.
: A bit to the east of Fairfield, in the leafy neighborhoods of Sacramento
: County, more than 21 % of births have been to mixed parents. "It's
: everywhere," said Sacramento obstetrician Therese Rosellini.
: She had just delivered a little girl whose father is white and mother is a
: Filipina. In her Elk Grove neighborhood on the outskirts of Sacramento,
: Rosellini said, "every other house has an interracial couple. It's just
: accepted."
: Birth certificate data show the highest rates of interracial births in
: middle-class suburban and smaller metropolitan counties such as
Sacramento,
: Alameda and Contra Costa in the north and Riverside and San Bernardino in
: the south.
: In the so-called ethnic melting pot, "a good deal of the 'melting' occurs
in
: the suburbs, and among the most upwardly mobile members of the new
: minorities," said demographer William H. Frey of the University of
: Michigan's Population Research Center.
: Removed from urban immigrant gateways by distance and often a generation
or
: two, they increase their "contact with other groups, begin to have more in
: common with them, socialize with them, date them and marry them," he said.
: Not all suburban counties, however, have high rates of mixed births. Some
of
: the most affluent, such as Marin, Orange and Ventura, were below the state
: average, reflecting what some demographers call the essentially
: lower-middle-class nature of the trend.
: Ranking even lower was Los Angeles County, which-for all its
: diversity-recorded a mixed-birth proportion of only about 1 in 9.
: One only need look at the city of Los Angeles to understand why. Many of
its
: neighborhoods are strikingly homogeneous, its immigrant populations large,
: relatively new and cohesive, its economic divisions deep.
:
: No Agreement on Patterns
:
: Experts differ on which pattern will prevail as California loses its white
: majority-the blending of Solano County or the relative separation of Los
: Angeles-or whether the two will continue to coexist.
: Among the findings of a Times analysis:
: * Statewide, more than 1 in 6 births in 1998 were to parents of mixed race
: or ethnicity, up from 1 in 7 in 1989-and the trend is accelerating. These
: figures count as mixed births children born to parents of different Asian
: nationalities-for instance, a newborn with a Korean father and a
Vietnamese
: mother.
: *Babies of mixed race or ethnicity are now the third largest group of
: newborns, after whites and Latinos.
: * California's rate of mixed births is well above the national average.
: Although the state accounted for only 13% of newborns nationwide in 1998,
it
: had 24% of all births to parents of mixed race or ethnicity.
: * The majority of mixed births in California involve Latinos, the state's
: largest minority group.
: * The statewide percentage of interracial births involving African
Americans
: was more than three times the national rate.
: Melting Pot
: From 1989 to 1998, nearly one-sixth of all births statewide were to
parents
: of different races or ethnicities. In Los Angeles County, the figure was
one
: in nine, the second-lowest rate in California.
: Historically, California has hardly been a racial Shangri-La. Yet it has
: attracted non-European immigrants since its inception. The California
: Supreme Court struck down legal barriers to intermarriage in 1948, nearly
: two decades before the U.S. Supreme Court erased them nationally.
: The Bay Area was the birthplace of the blossoming multiracial movement,
: which rejects the narrow boundaries of racial categories and succeeded in
: persuading the federal government to allow residents for the first time
this
: year to choose more than one ethnic category on U.S. Census forms.
: "In dismantling the `check-onebox-only' system, we've basically opened the
: door to the idea that race is not fixed, that we're not separate
species-as
: some would like to think," said Bay Area resident Ramona E. Douglass, a
: member of the Commerce Secretary's Census 2000 Advisory Committee and past
: president of the Assn. of MultiEthnic Americans.
: Indeed, UC Santa Barbara assistant sociology professor Reginald Daniel
: argues that people's growing willingness to embrace a mixed identity is
more
: significant than the increasing number of mixed births. "For a person to
say
: `I'm going to be all of those' is a new paradigm," he said.
: It also is one with broad implications, potentially reshaping notions of
: race and altering the balance of political power.
: Johnna Moore is white, her husband Earnest Moore, African American. The
: Solano County couple have five children, with a sixth on the way.
: "They know they're both," said Johnna, a medical assistant. "They have
both
: white and black dolls."
:
: Michelle Hall and Paul Richard, another biracial couple in this bedroom
: community, said they are trying to imbue their two daughters, 7-year-old
: Darian and 3-year-old Kolbie, with a mixed identity.
: In the years since Darian was born, Hall, an African American who is a
train
: operator, and Richard, a white who works as a courier, said people have
: become less colorconscious.
: "Before it was, 'Oh, are they your kids?'" Richard said. "Now, it's `Your
: kids are pretty.' "
: The two could recall only one bad experience stemming from their girls'
: mixed race.
: Once at an amusement park, a boy told the oldest child she couldn't play
: with his group because she was "not one of them." Tellingly, Richard said,
: Darian didn't know what the boy was talking about.
:
: Northern California
: Noted for Tolerance
:
: Certainly the Hall-Richard family is not a rarity in Solano County, which
: has a population of about 400,000 that is about 56% white. Among counties
: that recorded enough births to provide sufficient data, Solano topped the
: state in the rate of mixed ethnic and racial births between 1989 and 1998.
: The ranking is attributed to everything from the presence of Travis Air
: Force Base-the military is one of the most integrated institutions in the
: nation-to affordable housing that attracts a racial crosssection. Also,
the
: county's minority groups are of essentially the same size and are
: established enough to be relatively assimilated.
: "I live in a townhouse complex, and we have African Americans, Mexicans,
: Caucasians and Asians," said Sally Martinez, a fourth-generation
Californian
: and Latina homemaker who was grocery shopping with a white friend. "The
kids
: all play together. They're all mixed together."
: Northern California has a stronger tradition of racial tolerance,
suggested
: Sonoma State University multicultural studies professor Larry Shinagawa,
: because many of its white settlers came from the Northeast. Southern
: California tended to draw from more Southern states, where the racial
: divisions were sharply drawn.
: Both interracial and inter-ethnic marriages are on the rise in California,
: Shinagawa said. Asians in particular are marrying members of other Asian
: subgroups, he added, because the historical hostilities between them are
: eroding and because the overall number of Asians in California has
: increased.
: Although social attitudes clearly influence intermarriage and mixed
: birthrates, they are very much affected by practical factors such as the
: size of immigrant populations and the length of time they have resided in
: the United States.
: The larger and more cohesive an ethnic group, experts said, the better it
is
: at enforcing internal social mores that frown on marrying outside.
: "Just the presence of those big, strong communities tends to act as a
: retardant to intergroup romance," said UC Santa Barbara history professor
: Paul Spickard.
: Spickard said he has known Latino and Asian students who have chosen UC
: Santa Barbara over UC Berkeley or UCLA "in part so they can be free of
: surveillance" by members of their own ethnicity and thus socialize more
: freely.
: Moreover, many new immigrants are likely to arrive in the United States
: already married, as well as have language barriers that circumscribe their
: social circles. In 1998, for instance, 83% of the adult Mexican women who
: legally immigrated to Los Angeles County were married.
: The difference between intermarriage rates for first-generation immigrants
: and their children was noted in a recent study by Sonya Tafoya, a research
: associate at the Public Policy Institute of California.
: Tafoya found that multiracial and multiethnic births to nativeborn women
had
: risen markedly since 1982-from about 14% to 21% in 1997-while the rate for
: foreign-born mothers had remained fairly stable at about 7%.
: That generational change is reflected in the Thao family.
: Chia, Lo and Kaye Thao are teenage sisters who live in Solano County's
: Suisun City. The three are the oldest of 11 children born in this country
to
: an immigrant Hmong couple. They know their mother and father would like
them
: to marry within Hmong, or at least Asian, circles.
: Chia, 18, seems likely to do that, though she has dated whites. Her
sisters
: aren't so sure.
: "Whoever I fall for, that's who I'm going to be with. You can't control
it,"
: Kaye, 19, said with a smile.
: It's not simply the march of generations that erodes the boundaries of
: romance.
: Christina Sanchez's family has lived in the United States for more than a
: century, yet it has remained solidly Latino. When the Fairfield bakery
: worker dated non-Latinos, relatives' eyebrows shot up.
: "But I never paid attention," said Sanchez, 22.
: Why?
: "Because," she said, "it's 2000. "
:
: Some figures from a chart in this piece:
: Parental Combinations in Southern California over the past ten years:
:
: White Mother/Mexican Father: 119,001 children
:
: Mexican Mother/White Father: 111,484 children
:
: White Mother/Black Father: 27,654 children
:
: Asian Mother/White Father: 28,139 children
:
: Black Mother/White Father: 8,308
:
:
:
:
:
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Inglo"
Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 00:00
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Makes no difference to me. -- Stephen Pehrson <Inglo> ICQ: 65545522 (remove your eternal soul to reply by e-mail) Wuhoopee doopie!!! "The Watcher" <watcher2000@crosswinds.netNOSPAM> wrote in message news:pMHm5.14346$Lv6.218907@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... | From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. | | Far From Urban Gateways, | Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs | Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile | neighborhoods. Deep | divisions remain elsewhere.
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: georgann
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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Art wrote:
> So whats the point?
georgann wrote:
One point could be that the Gore dems have sufficiently
pissed off enough Californians to lose the state.
...................
"Time for them to go".
G.W.Bush 8/3/00
new guard or old
which is it?
...................
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Retired"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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And this is important to know because. . . ? "Inglo" <speh...@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:38Im5.82$ix4.71206@news.pacbell.net... > Makes no difference to me. > > -- > Stephen Pehrson <Inglo> > ICQ: 65545522 > (remove your eternal soul to reply by e-mail) > > Wuhoopee doopie!!! > > > > "The Watcher" <watcher2000@crosswinds.netNOSPAM> wrote in message > news:pMHm5.14346$Lv6.218907@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... > | From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > | > | Far From Urban Gateways, > | Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > | Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile > | neighborhoods. Deep > | divisions remain elsewhere. > > >
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: John Gluck
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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The Watcher wrote: > From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > > Far From Urban Gateways, > Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile > neighborhoods. Deep > divisions remain elsewhere. [snip] It's all off topic. This is a Linux Newsgroup -- John Gluck (Passport Kernel Design Group) (613) 765-8392 ESN 395-8392 Unless otherwise stated, any opinions expressed here are strictly my own and do not reflect any official position of Nortel Networks.
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Ken Blake"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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"John Gluck" <jgl...@americasm01.nt.com> wrote in message news:399C3E1B.4729A564@americasm01.nt.com... > The Watcher wrote: > > > From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > > > > Far From Urban Gateways, > > Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > > Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile > > neighborhoods. Deep > > divisions remain elsewhere. > > [snip] > > It's all off topic. > This is a Linux Newsgroup "This," from my perspective, is a Windows 95 newsgroup. Note that the thread is cross-posted to several groups. -- Ken Blake Please reply to the newsgroup.
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Rev. Dr Tim, Mc
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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> The Watcher wrote: > > > From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > > > > Far From Urban Gateways, > > Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > > Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile > > neighborhoods. Deep > > divisions remain elsewhere. So I guess your telling us that all good racists should move to Eastern Europe. Fine with me. It would really ease the welfare burden, although I suppose it would also be a tremendous loss for the trailer, banjo, and wallet chain industries. -- Long-haired preachers come out every night, Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right; But when asked how 'bout something to eat They will answer with voices so sweet: You will eat, bye and bye, In that glorious land above the sky; Work and pray, live on hay, You'll get pie in the sky when you die. "The Preacher and the Slave" Joe Hill
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Mark C"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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"Rev. Dr Tim, McC, BsD" <Dr_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message news:8ng3pc01pq2@enews2.newsguy.com... > > The Watcher wrote: > > > > > From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > > > > > > Far From Urban Gateways, > > > Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > > > Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly > mobile > > > neighborhoods. Deep > > > divisions remain elsewhere. > > So I guess your telling us that all good racists should move to Eastern > Europe. Fine with me. It would really ease the welfare burden, although > I suppose it would also be a tremendous loss for the trailer, banjo, > and wallet chain industries. > > > -- > Long-haired preachers come out every night, > Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right; > But when asked how 'bout something to eat > They will answer with voices so sweet: > > You will eat, bye and bye, > In that glorious land above the sky; > Work and pray, live on hay, > You'll get pie in the sky when you die. > > "The Preacher and the Slave" > Joe Hill > Opinions are like bung holes, everybody's got one.
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Retired"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 00:00
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If you weren't so evil, you'd be laughable. "Mark C" <2C...@Access1.net> wrote in message news:NkUm5.1110$Em.99642@sc0101.promedia.net... > > "Rev. Dr Tim, McC, BsD" <Dr_...@newsguy.com> wrote in message > news:8ng3pc01pq2@enews2.newsguy.com... > > > The Watcher wrote: > > > > > > > From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > > > > > > > > Far From Urban Gateways, > > > > Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > > > > Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly > > mobile > > > > neighborhoods. Deep > > > > divisions remain elsewhere. > > > > So I guess your telling us that all good racists should move to Eastern > > Europe. Fine with me. It would really ease the welfare burden, although > > I suppose it would also be a tremendous loss for the trailer, banjo, > > and wallet chain industries. > > > > > > -- > > Long-haired preachers come out every night, > > Try to tell you what's wrong and what's right; > > But when asked how 'bout something to eat > > They will answer with voices so sweet: > > > > You will eat, bye and bye, > > In that glorious land above the sky; > > Work and pray, live on hay, > > You'll get pie in the sky when you die. > > > > "The Preacher and the Slave" > > Joe Hill > > > > Opinions are like bung holes, everybody's got one. > > >
Re: L.A.Times: Whites Disappearing
Author: "Art"
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 04:10
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So whats the point?
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The Watcher wrote: > From the 8/16/2000 Los Angels Times. > > Far From Urban Gateways, > Racial Lines Blur in Suburbs > Culture: One in four births is of mixed race in some upwardly mobile > neighborhoods. Deep > divisions remain elsewhere. > What the @#%$ this has got to do with Linux Idon't no. Hey, whatcher, can you tell me why my fonts look shit?
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