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Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59444
Author: Frank
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02
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Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml

Frank
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59450
Author: NoStop
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:25
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Frank wrote:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
>
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>
> Frank

Too bad they're only selling licenses. I like to actually own the stuff I
buy.

Cheers.

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Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59461
Author: Holz
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:49
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:24:56 -0600
netcat <netcat@idontdospam.invalid> wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-
>Licenses-82354.shtml
>>
>> Frank
>
>It's the suckers who coughed up $150 million for a broken DRM-crippled
>OS that they don't even own who should be weeping...
>

The more the better. 7 out of 10 calls we get this days are requests
for downgrade or Window toss.

--
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;-)

Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59449
Author: netcat
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 14:24
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-
Licenses-82354.shtml
>
> Frank

It's the suckers who coughed up $150 million for a broken DRM-crippled OS
that they don't even own who should be weeping...

Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59471
Author: Harold Stevens
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:02
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In <20080403134920.166ac09d@IT01> Holz:

[Snip...]

> The more the better. 7 out of 10 calls we get this days are requests
> for downgrade or Window toss.

Yeah, they're beating the doors down for Vista worldwide--NOT:

   Low-Cost Computers Get XP Until 2010
   Thursday April 3, 2:36 pm ET
   By Jessica Mintz, AP Technology Writer

   Microsoft Extends Life of Windows XP for Some Low-Cost PCs

   SEATTLE (AP) -- Microsoft Corp. said Thursday it will keep selling a
   version of Windows XP for use on a new breed of low-cost computers for
   at least two years longer than the system will be available for
   mainstream PCs.

More:

     http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080403/microsoft_xp_extension.html?.v=2

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Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59463
Author: Meat Plow
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:49
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!

I do weep for all the fools who have paid money for a hogslop operating
system.



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Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59468
Author: ray
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:55
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-
Licenses-82354.shtml
>
> Frank

And about 50 being used!
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59474
Author: mark
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:04
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Frank wrote:
> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>
>
> Frank
Really Frank, who cares?  You and your micro-brain should leave.  You truly are a pathetic person.  How can your life be so empty, so devoid of any worthwhile activity, that this is what you do?  What's truly sad is I can't imagine you doing anything else, well other than servicing BG for free. Leave little idiot.
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59453
Author: ArameFarpado
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 21:32
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Em Quinta, 3 de Abril de 2008 21:02, Frank escreveu:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
>
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>
> Frank

That's expected... 98,8% of earth's population is mental retarded.

when you're with the majority, you're on the fools side.
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59545
Author: Norman Peelman
Date: Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:41
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Frank wrote:
> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>
>
> Frank

...sold to resellers, that is.

--
Norman
Registered Linux user #461062
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59585
Author: William Poaster
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:37
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Norman Peelman wrote:

> Frank wrote:
>> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>>
>>
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>>
>>
>> Frank
>
> ...sold to resellers, that is.

Who have then been stuck with the crap, as they can't sell them on:

"DSG blames Vista for £20 million in lost profit"
UK RETAIL OUTFIT, DSG has issued a profit warning blaming Microsoft's Vista for
£20 million in lost profit.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/18/dsg-blames-vista-million-lost

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Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59587
Author: "Cork Soaker"
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 12:52
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:
: "DSG blames Vista for £20 million in lost profit"
: UK RETAIL OUTFIT, DSG has issued a profit warning blaming Microsoft's
Vista for
: £20 million in lost profit.
:
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/18/dsg-blames-vista-million-lost
:


"It hopes to flog lots of big tellies and digital music players to daft,
overweight Brits in the run-up to Christmas"

How rude! :-O

Fair point though.


Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59617
Author: "ysdywmf"
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:03
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"netcat" <netcat@idontdospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:HdGdnXWY8IiFoGjanZ2dnUVZ_j2dnZ2d@supernews.com...
> On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-
> Licenses-82354.shtml
>>
>> Frank
>
> It's the suckers who coughed up $150 million for a broken DRM-crippled OS
> that they don't even own who should be weeping...
>

You should stop spreading your silly uninformed lies. Dickweed


Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59621
Author: "ysdywmf"
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:09
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"ArameFarpado" <a-farpado.spam@netcabo.pt> wrote in message
news:47f53ece$0$90276$14726298@news.sunsite.dk...
> Em Quinta, 3 de Abril de 2008 21:02, Frank escreveu:
>
>> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>>
>>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>>
>> Frank
>
> That's expected... 98,8% of earth's population is mental retarded.
>
> when you're with the majority, you're on the fools side.

That's what all the paranoids say


Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59651
Author: "dennis@home"
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:02
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"William Poaster" <wp@leafnode.amd64.eu> wrote in message
news:3gghc5-db4.ln1@mandriva2008.archimedes.eu...
> Norman Peelman wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>>>
>>>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>
>> ...sold to resellers, that is.
>
> Who have then been stuck with the crap, as they can't sell them on:
>
> "DSG blames Vista for £20 million in lost profit"
> UK RETAIL OUTFIT, DSG has issued a profit warning blaming Microsoft's
> Vista for
> £20 million in lost profit.
> http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/10/18/dsg-blames-vista-million-lost
>

Anyone in the UK would know the truth.. DSG salesdroids know less than you..
they probably told the purchasers to shop at Staples because they hadn't
worked out how to open the cartons with vista in.

I know someone at Staples and they can't get enough vista laptops to keep up
with demand, they have a two week wait for some and a few days for most.

Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59724
Author: "CJM"
Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:06
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"Frank" <fb@signm.crt> wrote in message
news:47f537e3$0$6475$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
>
http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml
>
> Frank

Everone should own an OS that has never deleted a line of code since the
first version of DOS 1.0.

Just think of it as owning the biggest piece of crap ever conceived by
morons.


Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59775
Author: Snowbat
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:57
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On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-Licenses-82354.shtml

So, 150 million Vista licences from Nov 2006 to 'earlier than mid-2008' -
18 months?

Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million in 2007
http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?idX4210

Of which:
	Q1 was in the region of 62.7 million
	http://www.metrics2.com/blog/2007/04/19/worldwide_pc_shipments_hit_627_million_in_q1_2007.html

	Q2 was in the region of 61.1 million
	http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId 070718006100&newsLang=en

If you suppose 2008 H1 will see a growth of around 5% over 2007 H1, that's
400 million PCs sold for Vista's 150 million licences.

62.5% of new PCs *not* sold with Vista.

Conclusion: XP is selling better than Vista.







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Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59907
Author: "Stephen J. Rush
Date: Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:48
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On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 08:57:19 -0300, Snowbat wrote:

> On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 13:02:58 -0700, Frank wrote:
>
>> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>>
>> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-
Licenses-82354.shtml
>
> So, 150 million Vista licences from Nov 2006 to 'earlier than mid-2008'
> - 18 months?
>
> Worldwide PC shipments totaled 271.2 million in 2007
> http://www.gartner.com/it/page.jsp?idX4210
>
> Of which:
> 	Q1 was in the region of 62.7 million
> 	http://www.metrics2.com/blog/2007/04/19/
worldwide_pc_shipments_hit_627_million_in_q1_2007.html
>
> 	Q2 was in the region of 61.1 million
> 	http://www.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?
ndmViewId=news_view&newsId 070718006100&newsLang=en
>
> If you suppose 2008 H1 will see a growth of around 5% over 2007 H1,
> that's 400 million PCs sold for Vista's 150 million licences.
>
> 62.5% of new PCs *not* sold with Vista.
>
> Conclusion: XP is selling better than Vista.

And how many of those Vista sales were new machines that couldn't be
purchased without Vista, but will be reformatted for installation of XP
or even Linux?  Microsoft stumbles every few years.  Before Vista, there
was the Misbegotten Edition, and before that there was Windows 95 which,
like Vista, was released late but still too early.  Even earlier, there
was DOS 4.0, which almost gave Digital Research a chance to compete.
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59913
Author: Cranky
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:19
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Frank <fb@signm.crt> wrote in
news:47f537e3$0$6475$4c368faf@roadrunner.com:

> Read'em and weep all of you linux losers...LOL!
>
> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Vista-Closes-In-on-150-Million-Sold-
Lice
> nses-82354.shtml
>
> Frank

Microsoft "sales" numbers have always been misleading. For the most part
it represents the number of computers produced with a M$ OS pre-
installed. It was a smart business move by M$ to arrange for Windows to
be pre-installed on machines from the big boys (Dhell, HP, Compaq and
others) that continues to put billions of dollars in their corporate
coffers every year. Had that not happened, M$ would still be a hole-in-
the-wall operation.

I spent a few years as a field tech for an internatl company with
service calls running the gamut from "How do I turn it on?" home users
to major corporate rollouts. (Ever wonder why so many of the really big
companies use UNIX rather than M$ products?) Most folks think Windows is
great and aren't aware of alternate OSs, nor do most of them care. The
average computer user (home/small business) is dangerously lacking in
knowledge of security risks and have no idea what a firewall is. Until,
that is, their system gets hit and they lose everything because they
didn't have enough sense to back things up on external media.

It's the average users and their lack of knowledge and concern that are
being EXPLOITED by M$. I can't count howmany times I had to make a
judgement call on whether to recommend a customer change over to an
alternate OS. Sadly, in most cases they were so computer-illiterate the
question was moot. They were pretty much stuck with M$Win simply because
even many technicians don't know enough about Linux and other alternate
OSs to be helpful if something goes wrong.

Just for shits and grins I tried out the preview version of Vista when
it was made available and soon trashed it. I installed to a clean HD on
a fairly modern system so that shouldn't have been the root of the
problems I encountered. It was when the problem reporting system didn't
work that I knew it was just another M$ piece of crap being released
before it was ready.

The computer I'm using at the moment is running XP-Pro but virtually
zero in the way of other M$ crap. Another machine runs XP-MCE because
that is what was installed when I got it and it is used for some pretty
heavy duty AV editting, etc. Again, virtually zero use of M$ products
other than the OS.

A 3rd machine, a bit older, is my pet project. After playing around with
several different Linux distros I settled on Ubuntu Gutsy because it was
exactly what I had been looking for. I'm still learning Linux - - -
Gutsy (and the Ubuntu forums) have served me well. I can already see a
day in the not-too-distant future when I can finally say bye-bye to
BillieCo and not shed a tear or feel any anxiety when I do.

So, for those of you impressed by numbers thrown around my megacorps,
well, just go on being impressed and led around by your nose ring.
I believe most thinking people would rather do things for themselves and
recognize corporate hype (i.e., lies) for what they are.

Cranky
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59956
Author: colddawn
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:03
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On Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:19:08 -0500, Cranky <noyb@abc.net> wrote:

>I spent a few years as a field tech for an internatl company with
>service calls running the gamut from "How do I turn it on?" home users
>to major corporate rollouts. (Ever wonder why so many of the really big
>companies use UNIX rather than M$ products?) Most folks think Windows is
>great and aren't aware of alternate OSs, nor do most of them care. The
>average computer user (home/small business) is dangerously lacking in
>knowledge of security risks and have no idea what a firewall is. Until,
>that is, their system gets hit and they lose everything because they
>didn't have enough sense to back things up on external media.

That's my experience too. I just go along to get along as an IT
support person.

>It's the average users and their lack of knowledge and concern that are
>being EXPLOITED by M$. I can't count howmany times I had to make a
>judgement call on whether to recommend a customer change over to an
>alternate OS. Sadly, in most cases they were so computer-illiterate the
>question was moot. They were pretty much stuck with M$Win simply because
>even many technicians don't know enough about Linux and other alternate
>OSs to be helpful if something goes wrong.

I just sigh and realize that the widespread ignorance is $$$ in my
pocket.

>Just for shits and grins I tried out the preview version of Vista when
>it was made available and soon trashed it. I installed to a clean HD on
>a fairly modern system so that shouldn't have been the root of the
>problems I encountered. It was when the problem reporting system didn't
>work that I knew it was just another M$ piece of crap being released
>before it was ready.

I'm horrified at the generous waste of resources with Vista.  Vista is
not elegant.

>A 3rd machine, a bit older, is my pet project. After playing around with
>several different Linux distros I settled on Ubuntu Gutsy because it was
>exactly what I had been looking for. I'm still learning Linux - - -
>Gutsy (and the Ubuntu forums) have served me well. I can already see a
>day in the not-too-distant future when I can finally say bye-bye to
>BillieCo and not shed a tear or feel any anxiety when I do.

I used to be pretty good at Sys V UNIX but have gone way stale since
I've supported Windows machines for years.  When Linux came along
without the major license fees, that was heaven. All of my 6 personal
machines dual boot XP/Ubuntu and/or use Virtual Box.  One triple boots
with Vista since I have to have familiarity with it as clients get
Vista machines. I'm trapped like everyone else and can't let go of
Windows until I'm not in a position to support other people's Windows
machines.

>So, for those of you impressed by numbers thrown around my megacorps,
>well, just go on being impressed and led around by your nose ring.
>I believe most thinking people would rather do things for themselves and
>recognize corporate hype (i.e., lies) for what they are.

I think that's probably true.
--
Jim
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59933
Author: Ignoramus16353
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 08:25
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On 2008-04-06, Stephen J. Rush <sjrush@comcast.net> wrote:
> And how many of those Vista sales were new machines that couldn't be
> purchased without Vista, but will be reformatted for installation of XP
> or even Linux?  Microsoft stumbles every few years.  Before Vista, there
> was the Misbegotten Edition, and before that there was Windows 95 which,
> like Vista, was released late but still too early.  Even earlier, there
> was DOS 4.0, which almost gave Digital Research a chance to compete.

I am one of those "vista buyers". I bought a laptop with Vista! The
first thing I did was, blow away Vista and install Linux. I never even
connected Vista to the Internet.

But I am counted asa a "Vista buyer" and not as a "linux buyer".

i
Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59916
Author: de Kameel
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 09:58
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Stephen J. Rush wrote:

> Microsoft stumbles every few years.  Before Vista, there
> was the Misbegotten Edition, and before that there was Windows 95 which,
> like Vista, was released late but still too early.

ME and Vista were horrible, but IMHO Windows 95 was a big improvement and a
great OS for it's time: it could do networking, web browsing and long
filenames.

de Kameel

Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59938
Author: "Cork Soaker"
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:50
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"de Kameel" <kameel@prik.net> wrote in message
news:47f88298$0$24423$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl...
: Stephen J. Rush wrote:
:
: > Microsoft stumbles every few years. Before Vista, there
: > was the Misbegotten Edition, and before that there was Windows 95 which,
: > like Vista, was released late but still too early.
:
: ME and Vista were horrible, but IMHO Windows 95 was a big improvement and
a
: great OS for it's time: it could do networking, web browsing and long
: filenames.
:

I agree.  Moving from Windows 3.11 to Windows 95 was a massive improvement.

ME was and still is disgusting.  People still use it, which is just weird.
Saying that, personally, I never had any problems with it, but everyone else
did and that was enough for me to hate it.


Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59939
Author: "Cork Soaker"
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 14:51
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: Saying that, personally, I never had any problems with it, but everyone
else
: did and that was enough for me to hate it.
:

Vista on the other hand.... *plonk*


Re: Vista closes in on 150 million sold...!
#59971
Author: "dennis@home"
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:58
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"Ignoramus16353" <ignoramus16353@NOSPAM.16353.invalid> wrote in message
news:ptmdnQGIIvygUmXanZ2dnUVZ_trinZ2d@giganews.com...

8<

> I am one of those "vista buyers". I bought a laptop with Vista! The
> first thing I did was, blow away Vista and install Linux. I never even
> connected Vista to the Internet.
>
> But I am counted asa a "Vista buyer" and not as a "linux buyer".

You bought vista.  You aren't counted as a user as you haven't activated it.
I am counted as 74 linux down loaders not one user of two machines BTW.

You are being counted as a Linux user if you take browser stats, not a vista
user.

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