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On 2/16/13 9:30 AM, in article kfoc6j$anr$2@dont-email.me, "J G Miller"
<miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:

> On Saturday, February 16th, 2013, at 16:55:52h +0100, Alias wrote:
>
>> I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.
>
> I take it you have never heard the fouled mouthed embarrassing public
> outbursts of Linus Torvalds or of Richard Matthew Stallman?  ;)
>
> Torvalds using foul mouthed language in addressing major
> corporations does the cause of free software no favors.

I have few problems with Torvalds. Stallman on the other hand is a repulsive
nutcase.

  Stallman:
    -----
    I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms
    children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based
    on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by
    parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby
    is maturing.
    -----
    If people are seriously concerned not to let children have
    sex in making porn films, they could use the approach that
    has succesfully eliminated cruelty to animals in films. You
    have seen the statements certifying that "no animals were
    harmed in making this film." There could be a similar
    certification that "no minors had sex or were nude with
    adults in making this film."
    -----
    The way to protect children from being used to make porn is
    to punish those who are involved in the distribution business
    together with those who make porn using real children.
    -----
    When making pornography involves real abuse of real children,
    those who distribute it under a business relationship with
    the abusers arguably participate in the abuse. They could be
    prosecuted for doing so. However, that does not excuse
    censorship. No matter how disgusting published works might
    be, censorship is more disgusting.
    -----
    Internet filtering in schools blocks access to educational
    materials. While that article focuses on blockage of the
    educational materials that prudes would admit, porn is also
    very important for education. Blocking adolescents� access to
    porn, or keeping them ignorant of sex in any way, is likely
    to stunt their emotional growth and make them vulnerable to
    mistakes that can hurt them badly.
    -----

Why would any corporation want to have *any* association with a man who says
such things?

> Incidentally have you noticed that Ubuntu always now present
> themselves always at Ubuntu and never as Ubuntu Linux, not
> even mentioning the word Linux on their home page?
>
>           <http://www.ubuntu.com/>
>
> The Fedora Project do acknowledge on their front page that
> Fedora is Linux based, as do openSuse, and with Linux Mint,
> it is already in the name.



--
"Maybe there is someone who considers it disgusting for a parrot to have sex
with a human. Or for a dolphin or tiger to have sex with a human. So what?
Others feel that all sex is disgusting." -- Richard Stallman

On 2/16/13 10:16 AM, in article slrnkhvfip.2kh.notbob@nbleet.hcc.net,
"notbob" <notbob@nothome.com> wrote:

> On 2013-02-16, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> BFD. Watch this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY
>
> Hard to believe Bill left this clown in charge.

Oh, I thought this was the original: <http://youtu.be/_pnBxcDZcXI>

:)


--
"It is absurd to punish anyone for having sex with someone of age 15 � it is
normal for Americans of age 15 to have sex." -- Richard Stallman

After swilling some grog, Alias belched this bit o' wisdom:

> On 2/16/2013 4:50 PM, DFS wrote:
>> Linux: it makes you a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.
>
> I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.

Or read one of Bill Gates' brain farts or Ballmer's predictions.

DFS is a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.  Searches on
his nym are like Dracula in a mirror.

  :-D

--
No chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share.
   -- Steve Ballmer, 2007

Dear Dr. Unruh,

I've been coding DOS boxen since 1983, Windows since 1989.
Today, I code for Windows 8; I wrote my own "start button"
and I never see the "start screen" ( a.k.a. "Metro" ).

I have lots of devices attached to my diskless/fanless, 20 Watt PC.
Logitech g110 keyboad, g35 headset, g500 mouse, for example.
[ Some Win8⋅only mouse settings: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/G600.JPG ]

1200 x 1920 IPS monitor, swivelled to portrait.
Brother DCP-7065DN MFC printer/scanner.
35-Page document feeder, 27 pages/minute... just for me, not shared.

Windows is the "standard" that works best for me
and the people who use my code ( in the U.S. and around the world ).

I write simulations for the ABA ( "The Bankers" ).
[ ABA.COM: http://www.aba.com/Pages/default.aspx ]

＜＜ Jeff Relf was the programmer for the project and
  contributed to the design of administrative processes. ＞＞
  −− BankExec™ 2009 Decision Manual, Copyright © 2011 (PDF)
  [ http://bankexec.swgsb.org/manual/BXD_Decision_Manual.pdf ]

On Saturday, February 16th, 2013, at 16:55:52h +0100, Alias wrote:

> I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.

I take it you have never heard the fouled mouthed embarrassing public
outbursts of Linus Torvalds or of Richard Matthew Stallman?  ;)

Torvalds using foul mouthed language in addressing major
corporations does the cause of free software no favors.

Incidentally have you noticed that Ubuntu always now present
themselves always at Ubuntu and never as Ubuntu Linux, not
even mentioning the word Linux on their home page?

          <http://www.ubuntu.com/>

The Fedora Project do acknowledge on their front page that
Fedora is Linux based, as do openSuse, and with Linux Mint,
it is already in the name.

On 2/16/2013 4:50 PM, DFS wrote:
> Linux: it makes you a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.

I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.

--
Alias

On 2013-02-16, J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> wrote:
>
> I take it you have never heard the fouled mouthed embarrassing public
> outbursts of Linus Torvalds or of Richard Matthew Stallman?  ;)

Yes, I so want to identify myself with the greedy pretentious
hypocrites who speak so saintly, yet would gut their grandmothers fer
a nickel.

I'll stick with the "foul mouthed" but honest RMS and Linus, rather
than the back stabbing lying despots that are screwbuntu and google.
They'd all be eating dirt if it weren't for linux.  Google is more
than happy to make gajillions of $$$ off linux, but acknowledge it?
God (or is it Jobs?) forbid!!  None of them will get one thin dime
from my pocket.

nb

On 2013-02-16, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> BFD. Watch this:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY

Hard to believe Bill left this clown in charge.

nb

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.redhat.]
On 2013-02-16, DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

<A rambline discourse on Google and its non-use of the term Linux
removed>
>
> Because Linux Users can't be trusted to behave if they are taken out
> into public.
>
...
>
>   From our public infighting, to our fragmentation in distro and desktop
> wars, to our inability to even give decent application names to our
> programs.....
>
(And numerous examples of people he believes represent Linux making
stupid comments removed. He has never read any of the descriptions of
how Gates or Jobs behave in private I guess.)

Linux is opensource. That means it is open to all. Google is a company
who can shut up and fire people who do not toe the line. Yes, a tyrany
is a more "efficient" form of government than democracy. I would still
rather live in a democracy, despite its inefficiency and its giving
idiots permission to shot off their mouths.
(Chrome is a "decent name"?)

On 2/16/2013 5:30 PM, J G Miller wrote:
> On Saturday, February 16th, 2013, at 16:55:52h +0100, Alias wrote:
>
>> I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.
>
> I take it you have never heard the fouled mouthed embarrassing public
> outbursts of Linus Torvalds or of Richard Matthew Stallman?  ;)
>
> Torvalds using foul mouthed language in addressing major
> corporations does the cause of free software no favors.
>
> Incidentally have you noticed that Ubuntu always now present
> themselves always at Ubuntu and never as Ubuntu Linux, not
> even mentioning the word Linux on their home page?
>
>            <http://www.ubuntu.com/>
>
> The Fedora Project do acknowledge on their front page that
> Fedora is Linux based, as do openSuse, and with Linux Mint,
> it is already in the name.
>

BFD. Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY

--
Alias

On 2/16/2013 6:16 PM, notbob wrote:
> On 2013-02-16, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> BFD. Watch this:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I14b-C67EXY
>
> Hard to believe Bill left this clown in charge.
>
> nb
>

MS hasn't been the same ever since.

--
Alias

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> After swilling some grog, Alias belched this bit o' wisdom:

> > On 2/16/2013 4:50 PM, DFS wrote:
> >> Linux: it makes you a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.
> >
> > I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.

> Or read one of Bill Gates' brain farts or Ballmer's predictions.

> DFS is a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.  Searches on
> his nym are like Dracula in a mirror.

>   :-D

Stalk much?

Quoting http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bankers_Association

＜＜ In June 1935 the ABA’s Graduate School of Banking
  opened at Rutgers University with 220 students
  after extensive planning by Dr. Harold Stonier. ＞＞

＜＜ In 1967 The first ABA computer, an IBM 1460, was installed. ＞＞

That's what I'm involved with; "Stonier" and the like.
Numerous "Graduate School of Banking" programs, for executives.

"My" code has been used at various central banks as well,
including Russia, China and the Philippines.
That's why care about Unicode so much.

I've been to Washington DC; I stayed at the Mayflower hotel,
near the White House.  They weren't used to frumpy
coders like me, not at all.  Security was TIGHT.

DFS wrote:

> "Happy Sitting at the Kid's Table?

Anti-Linux trolls set the agenda?

Don't think so troll!!

Google, Microshat, Appil all afraid of the true
power of Linux tablets awakening:

http://www.thevarguy.com/2013/02/15/are-linux-tablets-still-on-the-way/


Fractobot Says:

February 16th, 2013 at 8:04 am

I bought the Pengpod 7″ Linux version through Indiegogo
 that boots Linaro Linux (which is an ARM derivative
 of Ubuntu) from internal flash.
 It has been so far stunning journey.
 There is nothing in the tablet
 world to compare it with.

1. I’ve run it for hours compiling Gambas3
 and its barely warm. The reason I find out is that
 it clocks down when idle and ramps up speed when CPU
 is busy. No wasting of power here then. Since
 the entire OS and BIOS like functions are under the
 control of Linux, everything about power management
 is 100% beautiful.

2. So I get Gambas3 to compile by downloading
 everything flawlessly through WiFi.
 (A bit complicated – follow the instructions
 at gambas web site. If it reports missing libraries,
 then install those. If it reports problems with GLUT,
 then remove lib-mesa2 and compile again.)
 When it compiles you got now a tool more powerful
 than Visual Basic because you got your normal visual IDE,
 a fast execution environment, and it connect into the thousands
 of open source programs to control it, feed data into them,
 or take data from them for analysis.

3. Then I connected my Startech USB ethernet interface.
 It just ran – no fuss – no mess.
 So now I got WiFi and I got physical internet.

4. I installed Apache after but
 didn’t realise how well it runs.
 I loaded big html files with lots of big
 images and lots of data. It seems it was quicker
 to load from the Pengpod through local LAN than it was
 to load it from a web server hosting company
 with 70Mbit download link.
 Pengpods are fast enough to be ARM microservers
 on their own. I had ‘top’ running in a bash
 terminal when I accessed
 the apache. It hardly blinked!!

5. Unlike any competing tablets out there, the productivity
 of Pengpod Desktop Linux tablets is just out of this world.
 Particularly of if used with a real desktop PC and ssh.
 Being able to use ssh and ssh -X to run applications on
 your local desktop whilst actually running the application
 on the tablet adds the third dimension to flat top
 tablet computing!! :-)
 Something with no one can compete with.
 Its a big mistake whoever talked themselves into
 ignoring 1GHz Linux on ARM tablet, and ssh / ssh -X.
 Now I got myself a full ssh server + headless server + tablet
 that is also a web server!!

6. I can use a proper pdf reader and read datasheets
 manuals with same ease as desktops now!!

7. I got proper desktop firefox browser and not these crippled
 dopey mobile browsers and I can do everything as on
 real desktop – such as for example logging into
 remote security cameras to view and control it.

8. The spreadsheets and wordprocessors are real as
 real is on the desktop. With ssh -X, the work can
 continue when you get home on your real desktop.
 This a lot better than of fumbling around with grubby fingers
 on a 7″ tablet screen when you don’t have to.

9. The UI has been improved over previous desktop Linux
 implementation.
 Pressing the volume control brings up a scalable the touch
 screen keyboard nicely.
 Being resizable it is an immense help.
 Touching and then holding and then dragging scroll bars work
 intuitively. Again a big step up.

10. I tried barcode reader and it worked.
 So now I can walk with this tablet, run a desktop Linux
 stock taking program and use the barcode reader properly
 as if I was carrying a desktop around with me.

11. Many other USB gadgets also seems to work and if you have
 trouble with some device driver, just message the guys
 and are ready to add some more drivers to the kernel.
 A thing to watch out for is attempting to drive
 too many devices through a small USB link. One or more
 devices can drop out. But that happens with all products
 of this type.

12. With gambas3 compiled and running and ssh working,
 I set up a connection share with nautilus so I can
 drag and drop files from desktop to Pengpod.
 I can develop GUI applications on the desktop and drop
 the compiled programs into tablet with drag and drop.
 Click and run on the tablet and it works VERY FAST
 for a developer environment to create GUI applications.
 I made a simple application with big buttons like you would
 see in a Kiosk computer and it just worked. I installed
 espeak, and sure enough, when I press the buttons, I can
 actually make the tablet talk back!!!

In all, no one ever had this kind of computing power
 for $110 in such a small compact form factor.
 If that isn’t stunning experience with a tablet,
 then I don’t know what is! :-)

I was explaining to Dr. Unruh why I subject myself to
Windows 8 "tyrany", instead of Linux "democracy" ( his words ).

My primary phone, Bria⋅3 for Windows, has no "Desktop Linux" version.
It works on Androids and iPhones, but not on Linux Distros; see:
  http://www.counterpath.com/bria.html

Even if I WANTED to give up all my favorite devices and apps
for the "democracy" of Linux Distros ( and I don't ),
I still couldn't force my clients ( bankers ) to give them up.

I wasn't bosting, I was just making a point:

  Windows is the "standard" that works best for me.

On Saturday, February 16th, 2013, at 14:26:43h -0800,
Jeff-Relf.Me exclaimed:

> I write simulations for the ABA ( "The Bankers" ).

The ABA who are lobbying Congress

    (o) against stricter bank examination standards

    (o) against the adoption of Basel III,
        a global regulatory standard on bank capital adequacy

    (o) revoke the tax exempt status of Credit Unions

    (o) against a new regulatory regime to oversee cyber-security

    (o) revoke the tax exempt status of the Farm Credit System

    (o) against expanding the lending authority of the Farm Credity System

    (o) relax rules on credit swaps and other risk instruments

    (o) repeal limits on debit card transaction fees


Basically they are in favor of returning to the environment
which allowed the financial collapse of 2008 because of the
lax banking rules.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:25:04 +0000, owl wrote:

> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> After swilling some grog, Alias belched this bit o' wisdom:
>
>> > On 2/16/2013 4:50 PM, DFS wrote:
>> >> Linux: it makes you a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.
>> >
>> > I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.
>
>> Or read one of Bill Gates' brain farts or Ballmer's predictions.
>
>> DFS is a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.  Searches on his nym
>> are like Dracula in a mirror.
>
>>   :-D
>
> Stalk much?

  Apparently you do. This isn't COLA and yet the DooFuS and his circle
jerk buddies (since you're not too bright, that means you too) show up
because they have nothing better to do while munching cheetos in their
mommy's basement.

Give it a rest, get outside for once in your pathetic lives and do
something decent instead of wasting our good air.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:26:43 -0800, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> Dear Dr. Unruh,
>
> I've been coding DOS boxen since 1983, Windows since 1989.
> Today, I code for Windows 8; I wrote my own "start button"
> and I never see the "start screen" ( a.k.a. "Metro" ).
>
> I have lots of devices attached to my diskless/fanless, 20 Watt PC.
> Logitech g110 keyboad, g35 headset, g500 mouse, for example.
> [ Some Win8⋅only mouse settings: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/G600.JPG ]
>
> 1200 x 1920 IPS monitor, swivelled to portrait.
> Brother DCP-7065DN MFC printer/scanner.
> 35-Page document feeder, 27 pages/minute... just for me, not shared.
>
> Windows is the "standard" that works best for me and the people who use
> my code ( in the U.S. and around the world ).
>
> I write simulations for the ABA ( "The Bankers" ).
> [ ABA.COM: http://www.aba.com/Pages/default.aspx ]
>
> ＜＜ Jeff Relf was the programmer for the project and
>   contributed to the design of administrative processes. ＞＞ −−
BankExec™
>   2009 Decision Manual, Copyright © 2011 (PDF)
>   [ http://bankexec.swgsb.org/manual/BXD_Decision_Manual.pdf ]

  Ummm...yay? Do you want someone to give you a lollipop or pat your
head? Pat your back some more if neither of those two things happen, that
might put your ego at ease.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:50:51 -0500, DFS wrote:

> Why am I such a fucktard?

  The acorn doesn't fall far from the tree.

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tralfaz <directly_above_the_center_of_the_earth@santas_deer_poop_too_much.org> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:25:04 +0000, owl wrote:

> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> >> After swilling some grog, Alias belched this bit o' wisdom:
> >
> >> > On 2/16/2013 4:50 PM, DFS wrote:
> >> >> Linux: it makes you a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.
> >> >
> >> > I take it you've never visited a Windows newsgroup.
> >
> >> Or read one of Bill Gates' brain farts or Ballmer's predictions.
> >
> >> DFS is a stupid lying loon who embarrasses Google.  Searches on his nym
> >> are like Dracula in a mirror.
> >
> >>   :-D
> >
> > Stalk much?

>   Apparently you do.

Apparently you can kiss my ass.

> This isn't COLA

Of course it is.

On 17/02/13 07:51, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> My primary phone, Bria⋅3 for Windows, has no "Desktop Linux" version.
> It works on Androids and iPhones, but not on Linux Distros; see:
>    http://www.counterpath.com/bria.html

Strange that they offer Bria 3 for Linux ("Desktop") if there is no such
version.

I have to say I don't care much about a handful computers, mainly
desktop machines what people run on them, as the majority of computer
systems runs Linux.


> Even if I WANTED to give up all my favorite devices and apps
> for the "democracy" of Linux Distros ( and I don't ),
> I still couldn't force my clients ( bankers ) to give them up.

As the Linux world is democratic, it don't forbid people from using
other operating systems, not even closed ones.

If you would have wanted to switch over to Linux, there had been methods
for you run those applications even without dual booting. As you aren't
interested, we don't have to go into details.

As you have posted to alt.os.linux.gentoo, you should have been writing
something related to Gentoo Linux, it had been acceptable to write about
Gentoo Windows too and as a die hard ms-windows fan boy, I do recommend
you to take a look at that project, as it would lead to that ms-windows
would be come more secure when third part applications will be updated
as microsoft do not give the service you get as a Linux user where third
party applications are included in updates.


--

  //Aho

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> contributed wisdom to  news:kfo9rl$52l$1@dont-
email.me:

>  Is Linux mentioned anywhere in the Android Marketing?
>
>   No.
>
>   Is Linux mentioned anywhere in Chromebook Marketing?
>
>   No.

I love Linux dearly and have since its birth.
But I cannot really flaw their logic. I do not think that adding Linux to
marketing would help.

I am abit of an irritant in the forums of my favorite games Dominions 3 and
Conquest of Elysium 3 because I jump down the throat if people get it
wrong. They are not windows/mac games that work on linux, they are linux
games that were then ported to windows/mac (developed on Ubuntu). But does
harping on that help anything? not really. It just scares or confuses the
winnies and mackies.

Dont beat me up. Like I said I love Linux.
But I would say that Linux is still an item for the tech-specs area. Most
people do not care, would be confused, or even made nervouse about
mentioning it. Those people who consider it important will know anyway so
there is no need to put it in big letters with bright colors. It is not
quite yet a sales point. So as far as the marketing guys figuring on it, I
cant really disagree.


Gandalf  Parker
--
Mac, Windows, and Linux?
Think Greeks, Romans, and Barbarian Horde.

On Sunday, February 17th, 2013, at 14:04:39h +0000,
Gandalf  Parker suggested:

> Most people do not care, would be confused, or even
> *made nervouse* about mentioning it.

That would be the Linuxphobes.

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 06:08:17 +0000, owl wrote:

> WAAAAAAHHHHH!! Why does everyone call me a fucktard?

  You're a government experiment to try and figure out how you survived
after being thrown in a trash can 30 seconds after your mom spewed you
out.

J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> contributed wisdom to  news:kfqq00$jej$1@dont-
email.me:

> On Sunday, February 17th, 2013, at 14:04:39h +0000,
> Gandalf  Parker suggested:
>
>> Most people do not care, would be confused, or even
>> *made nervouse* about mentioning it.
>
> That would be the Linuxphobes.

I didnt say it was correct. But why put a name to something if it is so
prevalent? Linuxphobes would denote an unreasonable and crippling fear of
something.

I love linux but everything has its pros and cons. I am not so fanatic as
to think it is the perfect answer (yet). In fact, if it had become the
perfect answer, I probably would not enjoy it as much as I do and I would
have to move on to the next "almost but with potential".


Gandalf  Parker

On Monday, February 18th, 2013, at 13:47:00h +0000,
Gandalf  Parker explained:

> I didnt say it was correct.

Indeed that was the case and I did not wish to imply otherwise.

> But why put a name to something if it is so prevalent?

Diseases need names ;+)

> Linuxphobes would denote an unreasonable and crippling fear of
> something.

Usually when somebody is accused of being some type of "phobe"
or other, they do not exhibit "crippling fear" though.

Maybe it is time to put an embargo on the non-medical use
of the term "phobe"?

> I love linux but everything has its pros and cons.

True, and the problem with Linux is that one cannot become
part of a Botnet yet.

> I am not so fanatic as to think it is the perfect answer (yet).

There is no perfect answer and there never will be.

All OSes are imperfect because they are made by imperfect people.

> ... and I would have to move on to the next "almost but with potential".

Time to try BSD?  ;+)  ;+)

J G Miller <miller@yoyo.ORG> contributed wisdom to  news:kftlbd$otn$1@dont-
email.me:

>> I am not so fanatic as to think it is the perfect answer (yet).
>
> There is no perfect answer and there never will be.
>
> All OSes are imperfect because they are made by imperfect people.
>
>> ... and I would have to move on to the next "almost but with potential".
>
> Time to try BSD?  ;+)  ;+)

Been there done that.
I use unix, linux, windows, and mac.
I would recommend each for certain uses, and not for others.

In article <Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{2.26.PM.Seattle.2013}>, Jeff-Relf.Me
<@.> says...

<Snip: Non relevant words removed>
>
> Windows is the "standard" that works best for me
> and the people who use my code ( in the U.S. and around the world ).
>

<Snip: Same here>

A self confessed "Windows is the standard" zealot posting in Linux
groups?  Is this a case of "The lady doth protest too much, methinks." -
or are there people that shallow and egotistical with so much free time
on their hands that even if they have no interest Linux they have to
troll in their forums?  You make the call.

Over 4 days ago, Dr. Unruh implied that Windows⋅8 ( my example )
was a product of "tyrany" while Ubuntu ( again, my example )
is more "democratic". [ ref: 9MPTs.56238$On7.34445@newsfe16.iad ]

The idea being: ＜＜ Sure, Microsoft's trains run on time,
                    but I wouldn't want to live there. ＞＞

The Linux kernel is run by king Linus, a total tyrant.  My hero.

Ubuntu is the most popular Linux distribution on desktop/laptop
personal computers only because it's ruled by an "evil" overlord,
Mark Richard Shuttleworth.  Mark is also a hero too many, including me.

So I explained to Dr. Unruh why, exactly,
I chose Windows⋅8 over Ubuntu.
[ ref: Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{2.26.PM.Seattle.2013} ]

My lists of reasons was universally derided as
the ravings of a lunatic too stuck on himself.
How dare I assume anyone cares about my personal opinions.

I wrote ( and you, Mr. "nospam", dismissed ):

  I've been coding DOS boxen since 1983, Windows since 1989.

For me, and many like me, Windows has been THE standard
for a VERY long time.  Ubuntu is relative newcomer.

Also, you dismissed this comment of mine:

  Today, I code for Windows 8; I wrote my own "start button"
  and I never see the "start screen" ( a.k.a. "Metro" ).

Windows⋅8 isn't static, immutable, changeless and choiceless.
I can and do change it.  It's easier to change than Windows⋅7.

Again:

  I have lots of devices attached to my diskless/fanless, 20 Watt PC;
  e.g. Logitech g110 keyboad, g35 headset, g600 mouse.
  [ Some of my settings: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/G600.JPG ]

  1200 x 1920 IPS monitor, swivelled to portrait.
  Brother DCP-7065DN MFC printer/scanner.
  35-Page document feeder, 27 pages/minute... just for me, not shared.

I rely on the drivers, it's no joke, the settings are complex.
Were I using Ubuntu, I'd lose too many of my PRECIOUS settings.

Again:

  I write simulations/games for the ABA
  ( a.k.a. "The Bankers", "Stonier", "Graduate School of Banking" ).
  [ ABA.COM: http://www.aba.com/Pages/default.aspx ]

  ＜＜ Jeff Relf was the programmer for the project and
    contributed to the design of administrative processes. ＞＞
    −− BankExec™ 2009 Decision Manual, Copyright © 2011 (PDF)
    [ http://bankexec.swgsb.org/manual/BXD_Decision_Manual.pdf ]

Thousands of "graduate⋅students/executives", both here and abroad,
have run "my" code ( I'm a "code monkey", not a banker ).

I can't chose what OS my clients use, they chose Windows.

In article <Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.20{1.13.PM.Seattle.2013}>, Jeff-Relf.Me 
<@.> says...
> Over 4 days ago, Dr. Unruh implied that Windowsâ??8 ( my example )
> was a product of "tyrany" while Ubuntu ( again, my example )
> is more "democratic". [ ref: 9MPTs.56238$On7.34445@newsfe16.iad ]
> 
> The idea being: �� Sure, Microsoft's trains run on time,
>                     but I wouldn't want to live there. ��
> 
> The Linux kernel is run by king Linus, a total tyrant.  My hero.
> 
> Ubuntu is the most popular Linux distribution on desktop/laptop
> personal computers only because it's ruled by an "evil" overlord,
> Mark Richard Shuttleworth.  Mark is also a hero too many, including me.
> 
> So I explained to Dr. Unruh why, exactly,
> I chose Windowsâ??8 over Ubuntu.
> [ ref: Jeff-Relf.Me@Feb.16{2.26.PM.Seattle.2013} ]
> 
> My lists of reasons was universally derided as
> the ravings of a lunatic too stuck on himself.
> How dare I assume anyone cares about my personal opinions.
> 
> I wrote ( and you, Mr. "nospam", dismissed ):
> 
>   I've been coding DOS boxen since 1983, Windows since 1989.
> 
> For me, and many like me, Windows has been THE standard
> for a VERY long time.  Ubuntu is relative newcomer.
> 
> Also, you dismissed this comment of mine:
> 
>   Today, I code for Windows 8; I wrote my own "start button"
>   and I never see the "start screen" ( a.k.a. "Metro" ).
> 
> Windowsâ??8 isn't static, immutable, changeless and choiceless.
> I can and do change it.  It's easier to change than Windowsâ??7.
> 
> Again:
> 
>   I have lots of devices attached to my diskless/fanless, 20 Watt PC;
>   e.g. Logitech g110 keyboad, g35 headset, g600 mouse.
>   [ Some of my settings: http://Jeff-Relf.Me/G600.JPG ]
> 
>   1200 x 1920 IPS monitor, swivelled to portrait.
>   Brother DCP-7065DN MFC printer/scanner.
>   35-Page document feeder, 27 pages/minute... just for me, not shared.
> 
> I rely on the drivers, it's no joke, the settings are complex.
> Were I using Ubuntu, I'd lose too many of my PRECIOUS settings.
> 
> Again:

Point made.  I will leave it to the reader to figure out what the point 
was and who made it.

I am done.