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On 26/08/2024 11:18, Steve Hayes wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>
> It seems to be regarded by its users as something that would make
> whatever it is that's unplugged desired by their hearers, but I can't
> imagine why that would be.
>
> If your computer isn't working, one of the first things they tell you
> do do is check to see if it is unplugged, because if it is unplugged
> it will not work.
>
> So what possible meaning could "unplugged" have that would make it a
> desirable state of affairs?
>
>
I can imagine someone who wants to relax by retreating from the busy
lifestyle - no phones, no internet, no radio, no news - describing
themselves as 'unplugged' from the world.

Steve Hayes:

> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of
> "unplugged"?

Unrestrained, wild, "unglued."

> It seems to be regarded by its users as something that
> would make whatever it is that's unplugged desired by
> their hearers, but I can't imagine why that would be.

panem et circenses!

> If your computer isn't working, one of the first things
> they tell you do do is check to see if it is unplugged,
> because if it is unplugged it will not work.

This not is about the new electrical meaning, but about the
original one -- stopped by plug.  Once the plug is removed,
the gin (or the jinn) breaks loose and whreaks havoc.

> So what possible meaning could "unplugged" have that would
> make it a desirable state of affairs?

Unrestrained exporession of violent emotions?

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Anton Shepelev to Steve Hayes:

> > Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of
> > "unplugged"?
>
> Unrestrained, wild, "unglued."

I got it all wrong.  An example would have helped.

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In article <8ohocjhjkl0oqdb9diiioo2h7u4sms8juc@4ax.com>,
hayesstw@telkomsa.net says...
>
> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of
"unplugged"?

  If you plug in to google, there are plenty of examples.

   Janet

On 26 Aug 2024, Steve Hayes wrote

> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>
> It seems to be regarded by its users as something that would make
> whatever it is that's unplugged desired by their hearers, but I can't
> imagine why that would be.
>
> If your computer isn't working, one of the first things they tell you
> do do is check to see if it is unplugged, because if it is unplugged
> it will not work.
>
> So what possible meaning could "unplugged" have that would make it a
> desirable state of affairs?

The obvious source for this use of "unplugged" is the MTV series of
that title, where musicians perform their songs using acoustic rather
than electric instruments (i.e., performing "unplugged").

The series has been going since 1989, and according to this site:

https://thetvdb.com/series/mtv-unplugged/allseasons/official

there have been some 225 performances and another 25 or so "Specials"
over the past 35 years.

The metaphorical use is that something "unplugged" is an unembellished,
and thus more authentic, performance of something than the
edited/polished version of the same thing.

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Cheers, Harvey

Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
scribeva:

>Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>
>It seems to be regarded by its users as something that would make
>whatever it is that's unplugged desired by their hearers, but I can't
>imagine why that would be.
>
>If your computer isn't working, one of the first things they tell you
>do do is check to see if it is unplugged, because if it is unplugged
>it will not work.
>
>So what possible meaning could "unplugged" have that would make it a
>desirable state of affairs?

Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

Just this Friday, Steve Hayes puzzled about:
> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>> scribeva:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>
>> Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>
> Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
> light on the metaphorical meaning.

Why not?  It should throw light on at least the desirability aspect,
see "refined".  It's generally a more intimate performance, with a
small audience, much the way classical muscians do chamber music.  It
is also supposed to be more intimate in the sense that the musician is
opening up their most thoughtful and personal side.

I've seen it applied occasionally to public speaking, but I'm wondering
what you see as a wide metaphorical use?

/dps

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
wrote:

>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>scribeva:
>
>>Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?

>Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.

Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
light on the metaphorical meaning.



--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
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Steve Hayes submitted this idea :
> On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:38:31 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just this Friday, Steve Hayes puzzled about:
>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>>> scribeva:
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>>>> Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>>>
>>> Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
>>> light on the metaphorical meaning.
>>
>> Why not?  It should throw light on at least the desirability aspect,
>> see "refined".  It's generally a more intimate performance, with a
>> small audience, much the way classical muscians do chamber music.  It
>> is also supposed to be more intimate in the sense that the musician is
>> opening up their most thoughtful and personal side.
>>
>> I've seen it applied occasionally to public speaking, but I'm wondering
>> what you see as a wide metaphorical use?
>
> A blog advertised as "Religion -- unplugged".
>
> https://religionunplugged.com

Okay, I have no explanation for that one after viewing the site.  It
seems to be a specialty news site, not particulary focused on the
personal and upclose side of religion, and not obviously eschewing the
big stage.

I might use unplugged in a religous context to mean informal services,
no organ, no choir, maybe acoustic guitar.  Maybe a small gathering in
a home or a classroom. Folding chairs.

Or else maybe a quiet interview with a person, not necessarily a
well-known person,about their faith.  One article on that page might
fit that side ... but with a backdrop of the Grand Ole Opry, which is a
very plugged-in stage.


/dps


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On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:38:31 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Just this Friday, Steve Hayes puzzled about:
>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>> scribeva:
>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>>
>>> Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>>
>> Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
>> light on the metaphorical meaning.
>
>Why not?  It should throw light on at least the desirability aspect,
>see "refined".  It's generally a more intimate performance, with a
>small audience, much the way classical muscians do chamber music.  It
>is also supposed to be more intimate in the sense that the musician is
>opening up their most thoughtful and personal side.
>
>I've seen it applied occasionally to public speaking, but I'm wondering
>what you see as a wide metaphorical use?

A blog advertised as "Religion -- unplugged".

https://religionunplugged.com


--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

On 31/08/2024 18:12, Snidely wrote:
> Steve Hayes submitted this idea :
>> On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:38:31 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just this Friday, Steve Hayes puzzled about:
>>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>>>> scribeva:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>>>>> Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
>>>> light on the metaphorical meaning.
>>>
>>> Why not?  It should throw light on at least the desirability aspect,
>>> see "refined".  It's generally a more intimate performance, with a
>>> small audience, much the way classical muscians do chamber music.  It
>>> is also supposed to be more intimate in the sense that the musician
>>> is opening up their most thoughtful and personal side.
>>>
>>> I've seen it applied occasionally to public speaking, but I'm
>>> wondering what you see as a wide metaphorical use?
>>
>> A blog advertised as "Religion -- unplugged".
>>
>> https://religionunplugged.com
>
> Okay, I have no explanation for that one after viewing the site.  It
> seems to be a specialty news site, not particulary focused on the
> personal and upclose side of religion, and not obviously eschewing the
> big stage.
>
> I might use unplugged in a religous context to mean informal services,
> no organ, no choir, maybe acoustic guitar.  Maybe a small gathering in a
> home or a classroom. Folding chairs.

That brings 'The Society of Friends' to mind (as I know of in the UK, it
could well be quite different elsewhere).

--
Sam Plusnet

Sat, 31 Aug 2024 05:54:14 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
scribeva:

>On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>scribeva:
>>
>>>Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>
>>Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>
>Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
>light on the metaphorical meaning.

Plain and simple, authentic, pure, grassroots, genuine, down to earth.
--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:38:31 -0700: Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
scribeva:

>Just this Friday, Steve Hayes puzzled about:
>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>> scribeva:
>>>
>>>> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>>
>>> Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>>
>> Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
>> light on the metaphorical meaning.
>
>Why not?  It should throw light on at least the desirability aspect,
>see "refined".

Maybe also unrefined, with strangely the same meaning as my "refined",
like of crude oil, unprocessed, the way it is, but delicate and fine?

>It's generally a more intimate performance, with a
>small audience, much the way classical muscians do chamber music.  It
>is also supposed to be more intimate in the sense that the musician is
>opening up their most thoughtful and personal side.

Yes, small scale and initimate, basic.

Again more literally, like the Tiny Desk Concert series on Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlZ68ts-IU
https://www.youtube.com/@nprmusic

Fine music by fine artists.
--
Ruud Harmsen, https://rudhar.com

On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 10:12:32 -0700, Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Steve Hayes submitted this idea :
>>> I've seen it applied occasionally to public speaking, but I'm wondering
>>> what you see as a wide metaphorical use?
>>
>> A blog advertised as "Religion -- unplugged".
>>
>> https://religionunplugged.com
>
>Okay, I have no explanation for that one after viewing the site.  It
>seems to be a specialty news site, not particulary focused on the
>personal and upclose side of religion, and not obviously eschewing the
>big stage.
>
>I might use unplugged in a religous context to mean informal services,
>no organ, no choir, maybe acoustic guitar.  Maybe a small gathering in
>a home or a classroom. Folding chairs.

In view of the general definition, I would take "unplugged" in a
religious setting to refer to a capella singing, but that's not how
they appear to use it on that site.




>
>Or else maybe a quiet interview with a person, not necessarily a
>well-known person,about their faith.  One article on that page might
>fit that side ... but with a backdrop of the Grand Ole Opry, which is a
>very plugged-in stage.
>
>
>/dps

--
Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
Web:  http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
Blog: http://khanya.wordpress.com
E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com> writes:
> Sat, 31 Aug 2024 00:38:31 -0700: Snidely <snidely.too@gmail.com>
> scribeva:
>
>>Just this Friday, Steve Hayes puzzled about:
>>> On Fri, 30 Aug 2024 18:34:18 +0200, Ruud Harmsen <rh@rudhar.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mon, 26 Aug 2024 11:18:02 +0200: Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net>
>>>> scribeva:
>>>>
>>>>> Can anyone tell me the metaphorical meaning of "unplugged"?
>>>
>>>> Acoustical music, without amplifier, often in a more refined style.
>>>
>>> Thanks -- that tells me the literal meaning, but doesn't throw much
>>> light on the metaphorical meaning.
>>
>>Why not?  It should throw light on at least the desirability aspect,
>>see "refined".
>
> Maybe also unrefined, with strangely the same meaning as my "refined",
> like of crude oil, unprocessed, the way it is, but delicate and fine?

Perhaps unsophisticated, as in lacking show. Nothing fancy, no pyrotechnics.

>>It's generally a more intimate performance, with a
>>small audience, much the way classical muscians do chamber music.  It
>>is also supposed to be more intimate in the sense that the musician is
>>opening up their most thoughtful and personal side.
>
> Yes, small scale and initimate, basic.

Not just basic, but back to basics - this isn't never-been-plugged-in,
this is unplugged. Pared back.

> Again more literally, like the Tiny Desk Concert series on Youtube:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzlZ68ts-IU
> https://www.youtube.com/@nprmusic
>
> Fine music by fine artists.

Indeed.

Phil
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