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On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
> still running.
>

It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but NOT
with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I never
use about:profiles.

I have PrefBar 7.1.1 installed in SeaMonkey 2.53.20.  I created a
Profile button for PrefBar that calls toProfileManager();, which
launches the SeaMonkey Profile Manager popup.  Selecting a different
profile in that popup terminates all instances of SeaMonkey and
relaunches it in the selected profile.  It does not allow me to have
multiple SeaMonkey sessions each with a different profile.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

President Trump wants all Palestinians to leave Gaza and
relocate elsewhere.  How many will he accept to relocate
in the United States?

On 5/16/2025 3:26 PM, Richmond wrote:
> "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> writes:
>
>> On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
>>> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
>>> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
>>> still running.
>>>
>>
>> It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but NOT
>> with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I never
>> use about:profiles.
>>
>
> On the about:profiles page you have to click the "Launch profile in new browser" by a profile that
> is not in use.
>

That is indeed what I did.  But the new browser was still in the old
profile.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

President Trump wants all Palestinians to leave Gaza and
relocate elsewhere.  How many will he accept to relocate
in the United States?

"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> writes:

> On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
>> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
>> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
>> still running.
>>
>
> It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but NOT
> with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I never
> use about:profiles.
>

On the about:profiles page you have to click the "Launch profile in new browser" by a profile that
is not in use.

"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> writes:

> On 5/16/2025 3:26 PM, Richmond wrote:
>> "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> writes:
>>
>>> On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>>>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>>>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to
>>>> launch a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second
>>>> instance, but it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to
>>>> the first which is still running.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but
>>> NOT with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I
>>> never use about:profiles.
>>>
>>
>> On the about:profiles page you have to click the "Launch profile in
>> new browser" by a profile that is not in use.
>>
>
> That is indeed what I did.  But the new browser was still in the old
> profile.

That's strange. It shouldn't be possible to launch the old profile.

Something strange is going on. I was finding when I clicked "launch
profile in new browser" it was coming up with a restart dialog. So I
quit everything out and started again and that problem went away.

On 5/17/2025 2:38 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 17/05/2025 8:20 am, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
>>> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
>>> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
>>> still running.
>>
>> It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but NOT
>> with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I never
>> use about:profiles.
>>
>> I have PrefBar 7.1.1 installed in SeaMonkey 2.53.20.  I created a
>> Profile button for PrefBar that calls toProfileManager();, which
>> launches the SeaMonkey Profile Manager popup.  Selecting a different
>> profile in that popup terminates all instances of SeaMonkey and
>> relaunches it in the selected profile.  It does not allow me to have
>> multiple SeaMonkey sessions each with a different profile.
>>
> David, why did you have to install an Add-on (prefBar) so that you could
> make a new button to launch a new instance of SeaMonkey??
>
> Why not just select Tools -> Switch Profile .... and then select the
> Profile you want??
>

My Profiles button is on my PrefBar toolbar and is always visible.  It
only needs a single click.  To use [Toold > Switch Profiles] requires
two clicks.  Furthermore, I never noticed until now that [Toold > Switch
Profiles] even existed.

--
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

President Trump wants all Palestinians to leave Gaza and
relocate elsewhere.  How many will he accept to relocate
in the United States?

On 17/05/2025 8:20 am, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
>> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
>> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
>> still running.
>
> It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but NOT
> with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I never
> use about:profiles.
>
> I have PrefBar 7.1.1 installed in SeaMonkey 2.53.20.  I created a
> Profile button for PrefBar that calls toProfileManager();, which
> launches the SeaMonkey Profile Manager popup.  Selecting a different
> profile in that popup terminates all instances of SeaMonkey and
> relaunches it in the selected profile.  It does not allow me to have
> multiple SeaMonkey sessions each with a different profile.
>
David, why did you have to install an Add-on (prefBar) so that you could
make a new button to launch a new instance of SeaMonkey??

Why not just select Tools -> Switch Profile .... and then select the
Profile you want??
--
Daniel70

On 18/05/2025 1:34 am, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 5/17/2025 2:38 AM, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 17/05/2025 8:20 am, David E. Ross wrote:
>>> On 5/16/2025 1:36 PM, Richmond wrote:
>>>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>>>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>>>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
>>>> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
>>>> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
>>>> still running.
>>>
>>> It seems that using about:profiles merely launches a new window but NOT
>>> with the selected profile.  I never noticed this before since I never
>>> use about:profiles.
>>>
>>> I have PrefBar 7.1.1 installed in SeaMonkey 2.53.20.  I created a
>>> Profile button for PrefBar that calls toProfileManager();, which
>>> launches the SeaMonkey Profile Manager popup.  Selecting a different
>>> profile in that popup terminates all instances of SeaMonkey and
>>> relaunches it in the selected profile.  It does not allow me to have
>>> multiple SeaMonkey sessions each with a different profile.
>>>
>> David, why did you have to install an Add-on (prefBar) so that you could
>> make a new button to launch a new instance of SeaMonkey??
>>
>> Why not just select Tools -> Switch Profile .... and then select the
>> Profile you want??
>>
>
> My Profiles button is on my PrefBar toolbar and is always visible.  It
> only needs a single click.  To use [Toold > Switch Profiles] requires
> two clicks.  Furthermore, I never noticed until now that [Toold > Switch
> Profiles] even existed.
>
NP, David. YL,YL. You live, You learn. ;-P
--
Daniel70

Richmond wrote:
> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
> still running.
>

I think there are limits to how much you can do there, at least with
Seamonkey.  As noted down-thread, the easiest way of switching is via
Tools -> Switch profile.  I don't frequently change profiles in
Seamonkey, as it means that when my second profile is active, then I
don't have access to my mail.  To me, a lot of the value of a second
profile in Seamonkey is mostly limited to testing, to see how a site
might behave with mostly default config settings, or occasionally to
test some sort of setting I don't normally use.

It is worth noting that in this area, current versions of Firefox are
much more robust, and I think that that's an an effect of the
multi-threading support.  In Firefox, I have several profiles (including
default settings, and one for testing), but I have two that are for
more-or-less routine use.  The second started as an exact copy of the
first, but they're slowly diverging. One is for routine use that
predominantly personal, the second is mostly for work use. Most of
configs are still the same, but the differences include privacy handling
(including NoScript permissions), bookmarks and what passwords I have
saved. For the work profile, since I use that only on a handful of
sites, the permissions are a little wider, where I permanently whitelist
several scripting hosts that are necessary for the sites I use in that
profile, even when any whitelisting I do in the other profile is
temporary and done only when a specific site needs those permissions.

However, I've found that with Firefox's about:profiles, there's capacity
there for opening a specified profile in a new window, and where it's
possible to have both profiles fully active in windows that are
displayed side by side.  Thus, in both profiles, I have a bookmark for
about:profiles saved in the Bookmarks Bar, which makes it easy to switch
from one profile to another, when necessary.

Even though I can dig into profile data via about:profiles in Seamonkey,
and the UI offers "Launch profile in new browser", the capacities are
less than what I've grown used to in Firefox, and I generally limit my
use of about:profiles in Seamonkey to troubleshooting activities.

Although both Firefox and Seamonkey both offer the capacity of creating
a new profile from about:profiles, since Firefox doesn't offer a desktop
shortcut (at least in Windows) for launching the Profile Manager the way
that Seamonkey does, going through about:profiles is often the easiest
way of getting to the Profile Manager, rather than remembering the
command line syntax (both path to binary, and necessary switches).

Smith

NFN Smith wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
>> If I launch Seamonkey with the normal profile, then select
>> about:profiles, then launch another Seamonkey with a different
>> profile. I then select from the menu Switch Profiles, and try to launch
>> a third profile. I would expect it to replace the second instance, but
>> it doesn't seem to do that, it seems to go back to the first which is
>> still running.
>>
>
> I think there are limits to how much you can do there, at least with
> Seamonkey.  As noted down-thread, the easiest way of switching is via
> Tools -> Switch profile.  I don't frequently change profiles in
> Seamonkey, as it means that when my second profile is active, then I
> don't have access to my mail.  To me, a lot of the value of a second
> profile in Seamonkey is mostly limited to testing, to see how a site
> might behave with mostly default config settings, or occasionally to
> test some sort of setting I don't normally use.

Don't forget about the -no-remote parameter. You can have desktop
objects/shortcuts like "seamonkey -no-remote -P defautxxxx" and
seamonkey -no-remote -P testxxxx" "seamonkey -no-remote --ProfileManager"
I think you can use --new-instance instead of -no-remote as well.
These all allow multiple instances of SeaMonkey to run side by side with
different profiles.
Dave
ps seamonkey --help for all command line parameters.

Dave Yeo wrote:
>
> Don't forget about the -no-remote parameter. You can have desktop
> objects/shortcuts like "seamonkey -no-remote -P defautxxxx" and
> seamonkey -no-remote -P testxxxx" "seamonkey -no-remote --ProfileManager"
> I think you can use --new-instance instead of -no-remote as well.
> These all allow multiple instances of SeaMonkey to run side by side with
> different profiles.
> Dave
> ps seamonkey --help for all command line parameters.

Good point.  I do use -P, and sometimes where I specify a profile name,
although I have to remember that things are case-sensitive in Linux and
MacOS.

Somehow, it's never really gotten into my brain that -no-remote exists,
or why I might want to use it. It makes more sense discussing in this
context.

Smith