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On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 10:19:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 10:15:36 PM UTC-4, cocodeso...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:44:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:33:08 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:00:21 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 4:07:14 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote: 
> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> > > > > > > > "A True Account of Talking to the Sun at Fire Island" by Frank O'Hara 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > The Sun woke me this morning loud 
> > > > > > > > and clear, saying "Hey! I've been 
> > > > > > > > trying to wake you up for fifteen 
> > > > > > > > minutes. Don't be so rude, you are 
> > > > > > > > only the second poet I've ever chosen 
> > > > > > > > to speak to personally 
> > > > > > > > [...] 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/08/a-true-account-of-talking-to-sun-at.html 
> > > > > > > Even Frank O, a New York Poet, is probably obscure to the average person on the streets in this day and age.... this would make an interesting poll.... 
> > > > > > Yes, Frank "Speed Buggy" O'Hara is fairly obscure to anyone not interested in "Beat" poetry (i.e., heterosexuals). 
> > > > > Your ignorance is showing, Michael Pendragon. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Frank O'Hara was of the New York School of poetry, not a Beat. 
> > > > The two movements were closely related: 
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.historyworkshop.org.uk/safe-in-your-thoughtful-arms-the-radical-friendship-of-frank-ohara-and-allen-ginsberg/ 
> > > > 
> > > > And, as Will Donkey would say... that's "close enough." 
> > > > 
> > > > Michael Pendragon 
> > > > "Less we forget....!" 
> > > > -- George "Stink" Sulzbach 
> > > Not very close, O'Hara and Kerouac didn't get along very well. 
> > If you had looked at the link I'd posted, you would have seen that O'Hara and Ginsberg were besties.
> Ginsberg was friends with hundreds of people. 
> 
> That didn't make them all members of the Beat Generation. 
> 
> Look it up.

Um... a generation is an era.  O'Hara was born in 1926 (the same year as Ginsberg) and would have been a part of that generation.

What you meant to say was that he was not a part of the Beat movement.

Words matter.  Learn them.


Michael Pendragon 
"I don't pop pills unless there's no other alternative... being drug free for a few years now, you know."  
-- Will Dockery, on being clean and sober… except when he isn't.