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Article #60696On Tragedy
From: "Dennis M. Hamme
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:51
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2003 15:51
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__________ wrote: > > > > Rob, I understand what you are saying. > > However, there was no need to take a tragedy such as my father's death and > stick it in my nose as well as my whole self-worth here. And why would Peter > want to embarass me? For his own self indulgence? > > [__________] Listen carefully, illiterate. (Yes, I just ensured that you /won't/. Solve /that/.) A "tragedy" is something that happens to a community, a /social/ group related by language, and happens specifically to their estimate (image, purpose) of themselves. Something that happens to one person cannot be a "tragedy" /unless/ there was a /reasonable expectation/ that his image of himself, his /purpose/ to the contrary of the event (a social relation, i.e., potentially for all), could be met. This is recently called "Romantic Tragedy" despite that it's half the 2500-year-old Greek and 3/4 of the thousand-year-old Japanese literary tradition. Something that happens mechanically to every member of a species, and more especially to every member of a chemical class, cannot possibly be a "tragedy" in that there can be no /reasonable/ expectation of avoiding it. N.B.: it is of interest that Greek tragedy seems always to involve a cataclysm in man's relationship to law, Japanese tragedy a cataclysm in his relationship to duty, both merely different approximations of the same condition. "Seems," because the cataclysmic "laws" and "duties" emerge always to be strictly "human," even juvenile. Our own worship of the juvenile has already produced several high tragedies, but the juveniles so worshipped are utterly incompetent to write them. N.N.B: I realise [perfectly] that certain True People with the True Gift can simply snerml the noflnmeyer of the gnorthege, solnuffl their wings, and aslnugml *with* *feeling* Directly To *Heaven*, do not pass Go, do not pay five Our Fathers and three Hail Mary's, but it is to be understood that the method is not available /to the social group/ at large, for they do not, themselves, have the True Gift, nor can any methods provided by the True Gift be /communicated/ to the linguistic group by pushing around clauses and rhymes no matter how long they live. -- -------(m+ ~/:o)_| You've got to be able to look at your thoughts on paper and discover what a fool you were. -- Ray Bradbury http://scrawlmark.org
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