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Article #830353Re: PPB: Dandelions / George Sulzbach
From: Victor Hugo Fan
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2022 15:43
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2022 15:43
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On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 11:14:53 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 10:29:22 AM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 7:30:01 AM UTC-4, Hieronymous Corey wrote: > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:59:55 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > On Saturday, April 10, 2021 at 9:33:13 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The quote demonstrates your fascism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bring me the definition of fascism. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sure, here you go, Ash: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fascism (/ΛfΓ¦ΚΙͺzΙm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism[1][2] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition and strong regimentation of society and of the economy ... fascism often manifests a belief in racial "purity" or a "master race", usually synthesized with some variant of racism or bigotry of a demonized other; the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings or > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > forced deportations against a perceived other..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nuking the Middle East has nothing to do with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is something the original fascists might have endorsed,as in: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...the idea of "purity" has motivated fascist regimes to commit massacres, forced sterilizations, genocides, mass killings." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're the proud fascist here, Pendragon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fascism isn't necessarily about racial "purity," Will. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It's a form of government wherein the good of the State takes precedence over the individual: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "One of the most common and strongest criticisms of fascism is that it is a tyranny.[269] Fascism is deliberately and entirely non-democratic and anti-democratic..." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism#Fascist_aesthetics > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's right, Will. Fascism is not equal to democracy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you really need Wikipedia to tell you this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Usenet is fundamentally democratic. Every fascist and/or idiot has their say. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is why Usenet groups inevitable devolve into battlegrounds and habitats for trolls. Not because it is a democracy, but because too much leeway is given to the idiots. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If a Usenet group is to work, there have to be rules within that group. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And for rules to have any meaning, there has to be some means of enforcing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Since most of us prefer posting in a "safe" environment, having productive, intelligent, and friendly discussions with our peers, etc., the adoption of a set of rules can be seen as both a necessity and as a benefit to the group as a whole. This is how a democracy should work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The rules should be malleable and subject to change as the membership changes, and or as the majority opinion sees fit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Democracy without enforced rules results in anarchy and chaos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > You canβt enforce rules here. You can make guidelines. > > > > > > > > > > > > True. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the one hand, you can hope people think your guidelines > > > > > > > > > > > > > make enough sense to want to follow them to everyoneβs benefit. > > > > > > > > > > > > In which case, the guidelines are enforced by the members. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, you can defecate. See which hand fills first. > > > > > > > > > > > > That's a defeatist way of looking at things, Corey. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If enough members were to join -- and to adopt the guidelines -- those who refuse to comply would quickly find themselves having been relegated to the role of fruit flies. > > > > > > > > > > > Bzzzzzzzz > > > > > > > > > > Oh, Corey, you've always been a fruit fly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Back to gay laming again, Pendragon? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "People who associate with lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people may be called fruit flies (along with fruit > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > > bats) regardless of their sex. Fruit fly can also refer to a gay man." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_(slang)#Fruit_fly > > > > > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > > > No, Will. A fruit fly is just > > > > > > > See above ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > > > So what? > > > > > > > > > > > > There's more than one connotation for a "fruit fly." > > > > > Right... > > > > Right. I don't think that Corey is gay. > > > > > > > > I don't think you're gay either. > > > > > > > > Your sock, otoh... > > > You think Iβm a fruit fly. > > > I think youβre a fruit, > > > acting like a wise guy, > > > trying to look cute. > > > > Fruit fly, fruit fly > > buzzing round my tree, > > sucking at my nectar > > dreaming dreams of me. > This brings me an image of a Tex Avery cartoon parody of Richard Simmons, dancing to the oldies: > > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tex+avery+cartoons Quite funny...
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