Article View: alt.arts.poetry.comments
Article #829480Re: Charles Bukowski got a bad review
From: NancyGene
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:30
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:30
74 lines
3736 bytes
3736 bytes
On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:26:54 PM UTC, Ash Wurthing wrote: > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 10:49:29 AM UTC-4, HC wrote: > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 8:47:12 AM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 10:16:11 AM UTC, HC wrote: > > > > On Sunday, July 31, 2022 at 6:05:57 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, July 21, 2022 at 4:05:17 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote: > > > > > > Will Dockery wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wednesday, July 20, 2022 at 7:32:41 PM UTC-4, NancyGene wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> https://blog.bookstellyouwhy.com/why-we-can-stop-reading-charles-bukowski > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "He committed to his pages the environment he knew best—that of lowlifes, the forgotten, and the destitute. This sort of life—with all its modest adventures to be found in saloons, motels, booze, and sex—has captivated the adolescent mind for years. And these readers are the chief reason Bukowski is kept alive at all." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> That is the audience for Bukowski--forever adolescents, "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up, not I." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> "It is hard not to feel fatigued by how shallow Bukowski’s vision is. Successful metaphor is scant in his work, as is enriching irony. What you see is what you get, and what is seen is Bukowski is rarely impressive." > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Agreed. It means nothing, was never meant to mean anything, and no one can find any depth in it. It's written for little boys who became man/boys. > > > > > > > > > > > > > This reminds me of the bad review you posted of Bob Dylan a while ago, Nancy Gene. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Second opinions can be found online that places Charles Bukowski with the top poets of the 20th Century, as well, along with the likes of Jack Kerouac and Allen Ginsberg, to name two others that some group members think should have their books burned. > > > > > > > > > > > > > And so it goes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, Charles Bukowski is both a critical and popular poet, this cannot be denied... > > > > > Except for those here... in denial. > > > > > > > > > > 🙂 > > > > Denial is just a defense mechanism. > > > "Unless you just turned 16, Charles Bukowski is kinda lame. I know that’s a pretty controversial thing to say, but all his stories revolve around how off his tits he was and how many women he had sex with and how many times he shit his pants at Christmas. It’s all so affected." > > > https://www.monsterchildren.com/nick-cave-bukowski-sucks/ > > > > > > "Tell me, what should every high-school kid read?" > > > "They should read the Bible, they should read Lolita. They should stop reading Bukowski, and they should stop listening to people who tell them to read Bukowski." > > > https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/qa-nick-cave-50111/ (Interview with Nick Cave) > > So, we’re having a puja this week. It’s a day long Hindu ceremony. > > Lots of Hindu people will be coming. Everybody has been assigned > > a task in preparation for the event. I need to provide the cow urine. > > I’ve never been tasked with gathering cow urine before. Any ideas? > Well... I've done a lot during my allotted time and don't believe collecting cow urine was one of them-- I'm afraid you're on your own-- may [insert preferred deity(ies)] blessed your allotted task... HC might want to be sure not to stand directly behind the cow. This is the time for a reach-around.
Message-ID:
<abf9476b-995e-49c5-b5bd-51fd1351f660n@googlegroups.com>
Path:
rocksolid-us.pugleaf.net!archive.newsdeef.eu!archive!apf1.newsdeef.eu!not-for-mail
References:
<83bbcaa1-f0b2-4da7-ba08-56a3f9718d53n@googlegroups.com> <09590b1e-a35a-4d67-8ac4-fad0581c0cben@googlegroups.com> <598208c9a79eb6563ca1bf75a0d03ccf@news.novabbs.com> <cede9d80e707d64412eaee85d28e55ba@news.novabbs.com> <000cf564-844a-46de-9b4b-e3f64b122942n@googlegroups.com> <442eb76a-4800-4592-9b54-0ce5bcfb0124n@googlegroups.com> <2c77baf4-ea64-4ead-bade-a180f187ddden@googlegroups.com> <baf1ff80-8f76-4015-9426-9dfad87168dfn@googlegroups.com> <09a03a45-1319-4233-8935-2541803fdbden@googlegroups.com>