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On Saturday, July 23, 2022 at 6:00:16 AM UTC-4, HC wrote:
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 3:25:36 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 2:42:42 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades 
> > > until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word 
> > > 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that." 
> > > https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html 
> > > 
> > > "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think. 
> > > In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades." 
> > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en
> > The two views only appear to cancel one another out when uses them as exclusive definitions of "poet." 
> > 
> > In reality, each is only a partial definition: 
> > 
> > The first statement pertains to devotion to one's craft; the second, to natural talent. 
> > 
> > Poets come in both varieties. 
> > 
> > You, PJR and Gwyneth fall under the first category, Jim, NancyGene and myself under the second. 
> > 
> > Nor are these partial definitions mutually exclusive. Natural poets can possess a great deal of devoted craftsmanship, and craftsmen can possess their share of talent. It's simply a matter of which type is dominant. 
> > 
> > The first type are formalists: interested in composing specific poetry forms, meters, etc. The second group has an informal approach which can span from traditional rhyme/meter to free verse. 
> > 
> > Both groups have the potential to produce quality poetry. 
> > 
> > 
> > Michael Pendragon
> > "Good morning Video, keep up the great work." 
> > -- Will Dockery, a man who wants his MTV. 
> 
> How much, if any, consideration should a reader give to how long it 
> takes a writer to write a poem, relative to the message of the poem? 
> 
> How is one to know how long it takes 
> to write a poem, and why does it matter?


Some sit on a clean toilet, perhaps read the news, take some time, others dig a hole in the woods, dump and bury, some just depend on Depends.

The proof, as they say, is in the pudding.