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Re: Two views of writing poetry

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From: Michael Pendrago
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2022 19:14
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On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 10:01:55 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 9:47:03 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 9:28:50 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 9:25:25 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 9:15:20 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > > > Michael Pendragon wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 8:36:38 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > > > >> On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 8:32:30 PM UTC-4, michaelmalef...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > > > > >> > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 4:07:32 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> > > > > >> > > On Friday, July 22, 2022 at 2:42:42 PM UTC-4, george...@yahoo.ca wrote: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> > > > > > "Philip Larkin would leave half-finished poems in a drawer for decades 
> > > > > >> > > > > > until he found the right lines to complete them. Let’s reserve the word 
> > > > > >> > > > > > 'poet' for writers who respect language enough to do things like that." 
> > > > > >> > > > > > https://www.theage.com.au/culture/music/bob-dylan-a-great-poet-a-great-delusion-more-like-it-20220502-p5ahrz.html 
> > > > > >> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> > > > > > "Dumb ass. Real poets can write a poem as easily as some of us think. 
> > > > > >> > > > > > In other words, it doesn’t take fucking decades." 
> > > > > >> > > > > > https://groups.google.com/g/alt.arts.poetry.comments/c/i7lvIdnUvwU/m/PV9DS2-UAgAJ?hl=en 
> > > > > >> > > > > Well put, George. 
> > > > > >> > > > We can now add "well put" to the ever-growing list of words and phrases Will Donkey refuses to understand. 
> > > > > >> > > No, I understand it perfectly. 
> > > > > >> > Obviously not. 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > George copy/pasted two quotes. 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > He didn't *write/explain* anything, so your "well put" would not apply. 
> > > > > >> Sure it does. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Well put 
> > > > > > Adjective 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Of a point, argument, etc.: skilfully phrased. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Per Wiktionary. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > George didn't phrase/argue anything in his copy/paste, so there was nothing in his post that could have been "well put." 
> > > > > George Dance was making a definite point with the two quotes. 
> > > > He was, but he didn't "put" that question forward. 
> > > > 
> > > > For something to be "well put," it has to be expressed in one's own words. 
> > > > 
> > > > You could say that his juxtaposition of copied quotes made a good point, but you cannot say that it was well put. 
> > > Okay, it was a good point, then. 
> > Not really,
> In my opinion it's an excellent point.

That's why you're the Donkey.

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