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On Tuesday, June 14, 2022 at 12:55:12 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> Michael Pendragon wrote:
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> > On Monday, June 13, 2022 at 3:10:14 AM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
> >> Zod wrote:
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> >> > Michael Pendragon wrote:
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> >> >> On Monday, May 30, 2022 at 10:39:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote:
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> >> >>> Yes, we went through this at least once before.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Leonard Cohen was a poet years before he became a Folk Rock singer.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> As the article you quoted shows.
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> >> >> No one is disputing that he was a poet before he became a folk singer
> >>
> >> > You sure looked like that's what you were trying today, dumb ass....
> >> It was at first, until he saw it wasn't going to fly.
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> > For the 19th time: he achieved only limited success as a poet until *after* he had made a name for himself as a folk singer.
> Success as a poet isn't judged by book sales.

That's an oversimplification, but yes, it is.

If no one buys your work, it isn't being read.

> > It makes no difference whether he wrote poetry before he wrote songs
> When it's a simple fact that he was a poet first, it does make a difference, biographically.

That doesn't change the other, equally simple, fact that his *success* as a poet only came about because he was able to relaunch his poetic career on the basis of his success as a folk singer.