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Article #815534

Re: PPB: A True Account of Talking to the Sun at Fire Island / Frank O'Hara

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From: Will Dockery
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 06:39
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On Thursday, May 19, 2022 at 8:57:58 AM UTC-4, Cujo DeSockpuppet wrote:
> Michael Pendragon <michaelmalef...@gmail.com> wrote in 
> news:80c70690-256b-4065...@googlegroups.com:
> > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 10:19:57 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> >> On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 10:15:36 PM UTC-4, 
> >> cocodeso...@gmail.com wr 
> > ote: 
> >> > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:44:10 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery wrote: 
> >> > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:33:08 PM UTC-4, 
> >> > > michaelmalef...@gmail 
> > .com wrote: 
> >> > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:00:21 PM UTC-4, Will Dockery 
> >> > > > wrote: 
> > 
> >> > > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:06:27 PM UTC-4, 
> >> > > > > michaelmalef...@g 
> > mail.com wrote: 
> >> > > > > > On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 4:07:14 PM UTC-4, Zod wrote: 
> >> > > > > > > On Sunday, August 15, 2021 at 10:03:34 AM UTC-4, 
> >> > > > > > > george...@ya 
> > hoo.ca wrote: 
> >> > > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > > Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: 
> >> > > > > > > > "A True Account of Talking to the Sun at Fire Island" 
> >> > > > > > > > by Fr 
> > ank O'Hara 
> >> > > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > > The Sun woke me this morning loud 
> >> > > > > > > > and clear, saying "Hey! I've been 
> >> > > > > > > > trying to wake you up for fifteen 
> >> > > > > > > > minutes. Don't be so rude, you are 
> >> > > > > > > > only the second poet I've ever chosen 
> >> > > > > > > > to speak to personally 
> >> > > > > > > > [...] 
> >> > > > > > > > 
> >> > > > > > > > https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2021/08/a-true-account 
> >> > > > > > > > -of 
> > -talking-to-sun-at.html 
> >> > > > > > > Even Frank O, a New York Poet, is probably obscure to the 
> >> > > > > > > ave 
> > rage person on the streets in this day and age.... this would make an 
> > interesting poll.... 
> >> > > > > > Yes, Frank "Speed Buggy" O'Hara is fairly obscure to anyone 
> >> > > > > > not 
> > interested in "Beat" poetry (i.e., heterosexuals). 
> >> > > > > Your ignorance is showing, Michael Pendragon. 
> >> > > > > 
> >> > > > > Frank O'Hara was of the New York School of poetry, not a 
> >> > > > > Beat. 
> >> > > > The two movements were closely related: 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > https://www.historyworkshop.org.uk/safe-in-your-thoughtful-arms- 
> >> > > > the 
> > -radical-friendship-of-frank-ohara-and-allen-ginsberg/ 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > And, as Will Donkey would say... that's "close enough." 
> >> > > > 
> >> > > > Michael Pendragon 
> >> > > > "Less we forget....!" 
> >> > > > -- George "Stink" Sulzbach 
> >> > > Not very close, O'Hara and Kerouac didn't get along very well. 
> >> > If you had looked at the link I'd posted, you would have seen that 
> >> > O'Ha 
> > ra and Ginsberg were besties. 
> >> Ginsberg was friends with hundreds of people. 
> >> 
> >> That didn't make them all members of the Beat Generation. 
> >> 
> >> Look it up. 
> > 
> > Um... a generation is an era. O'Hara was born in 1926 (the same year 
> > as Ginsberg) and would have been a part of that generation. 
> > 
> > What you meant to say was that he was not a part of the Beat movement. 
> > 
> > Words matter. Learn them.
> You may have lost him at "matter" but you definitely lost Dreckweasel at 
> "learn". Better luck next time. Then again, reading comprehension isn't 
> exactly something he is known for unless you cite the lack of it.
> > Michael Pendragon 
> > "I don't pop pills unless there's no other alternative... being drug 
> > free for a few years now, you know." -- Will Dockery, on being clean 
> > and sober… except when he isn't.
> How plastered was Little Willie Douchebag when he wrote that?

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