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Article #811806Re: PPB: Always Marry an April Girl / Ogden Nash
From: parnellos.pizza@
Date: Thu, 05 May 2022 02:44
Date: Thu, 05 May 2022 02:44
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Zod wrote: > George J. Dance wrote: >> On 2022-05-04 1:53 a.m., W.Dockery wrote: >>> George J. Dance wrote: >>> >>>> On 2022-05-02 6:56 p.m., W.Dockery wrote: >>>>> General-Zod wrote: >>>>>> George J. Dance wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Today's poem on Penny's Poetry Blog: >>>>> >>>>>>> Always Marry an April Girl, by Ogden Nash >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> April golden, April cloudy, >>>>>>> Gracious, cruel, tender, rowdy; >>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>> https://gdancesbetty.blogspot.com/2022/04/always-marry-april-girl-ogden-nash.html >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Cool, second read >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Nash definitely was the master of his niche in poetry. >>> >>>> Oh, yeah. As an example:I remember one textbook I picked up in the >>>> last half of the last century. It was very modern in its approach to >>>> verse. First, it ignored rhythm / meter completely. Second, it >>>> pontificated that rhyme was good only for humorous effect; and the one >>>> example of rhyme it cited was Ogden Nash. >>> >>>> Be that as it may, I'm glad to have his poetry on the blog. This debut >>>> is a bit out of the ordinary -- it reads like a love poem he dashed >>>> off to his wife, whether he did or whether he designed it that way >>>> (probably the latter, since his wife was born in March). >>> >>> >>> As you know, much of my early years of poetry writing and study I was >>> taught to shun rhymes, in popular culture and personal school studies >>> >>> >>> My teacher and mentor Dan Barfield, as you know, famously told our class: >>> >>> "Rhyme is a crutch." >> That would be late 70s, in high school back when and where rhyme was >> most out of fashion. I encountered the same prejudice in my friends who >> wrote poetry; all of them shunned rhyme, and only liked the poems in >> which I did the same. >> But regardless of Dan's views on rhyme, I'd interpret his maxim more >> charitably, not as saying "Don't use rhyme", but as Don't rely on rhyme; >> don't try to use it to support work that isn't supported otherwise. >> If I were teaching poetics, I'd advise new students to start by writing >> open form, until they'd learned how to write poems - how to arrange the >> words to tell a story, or present a scene, or even construct an >> argument, to give the reader an epiphany. >> Then I'd instruct them on meter, rhyme, and finally forms. But I'd make >> it clear that in their poems they'd have to use those in addition to all >> that other stuff they learned earlier, not as a substitute (or "crutch) >> for them. >>> >>> I learned to begin to embrace rhyme, meter and form, et cetera, in these >>> later years. >> I won't claim any credit, since you were using rhymes before I got on >> the group. But I do think that being on aapc was probably a big >> influence on your doing that. > I think perhaps the advemnt of HIP HOP spoken word poetry helped bring on the changes as well..... Yes, the poetry slam style of poetry has been very influential.
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